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Senator Gillibrand: Silencing women for the powerful, or for your friends, or for convenience, is... (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2018 OP
She is toast. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #1
Gillibrand is toast FromMissouri Nov 2018 #2
How is it personal ambition? nt Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #7
We give people a hard time for voting green or not voting JonLP24 Nov 2018 #9
She was the most popular statewide elected official in 2018 Renew Deal Nov 2018 #15
She was in NY Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #17
She makes the mistake of thinking that was the only other option. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #3
Self-righteousness doesn't look good on anyone. madaboutharry Nov 2018 #4
Actually she didn't get in front of the TV cameras Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #6
I am not mistaken and I am not confused. madaboutharry Nov 2018 #10
Not that morning Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #12
I didn't say anywhere in my post "that morning" madaboutharry Nov 2018 #13
No you didn't Trumpocalypse Nov 2018 #16
I agree that self-righteousness PatSeg Nov 2018 #18
eh, don't care really qazplm135 Nov 2018 #5
But women should be held accountable... libdem4life Nov 2018 #8
Clueless. Lucinda Nov 2018 #11
Good for her Renew Deal Nov 2018 #14

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
9. We give people a hard time for voting green or not voting
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:34 PM
Nov 2018

But why can donors do whatever they want?

“Let me tell you how strongly I felt about it — I didn’t even vote for her in the recent election. I left it blank.”

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
17. She was in NY
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 04:34 PM
Nov 2018

but what about other states? I mean did any other statewide candidate across the country get over 66%?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. She makes the mistake of thinking that was the only other option.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:21 PM
Nov 2018

It could have been a great teachable moment. Instead, some felt it necessary to get rid of Franken ASAP.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
4. Self-righteousness doesn't look good on anyone.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:21 PM
Nov 2018

Sen. Gillibrand should know that it isn’t always necessary to have the last word, especially in situations that have as much “grey” as Franken’s case.

Franken was denied fairness. And that was Gillibrand’s doing. She got in front of tv cameras, waived her hands around, and made it clear she didn’t care what he had to say. Franken should have been afforded process. Gillibrand got people to jump on a bandwagon and railroaded him out of the Senate. It was wrong.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
6. Actually she didn't get in front of the TV cameras
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:30 PM
Nov 2018

She made a Facebook post. You might be confusing her with Kamala Harris who had a press conference that morning.

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
10. I am not mistaken and I am not confused.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:38 PM
Nov 2018

Gillibrand was in front of tv cameras after subsequent women made claims.

Gillibrand said she wasn’t interested in what kind of touch it was or wasn’t, women were always to be believed, and Franken needed to resign.

Tammy Baldwin and others were standing next to her. After Gillibrand spoke, Baldwin chimed in that she was returning money from Franken’s pac.



 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
12. Not that morning
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:53 PM
Nov 2018

There was a press conference of several Senators later that day, but not that morning. Kamala Harris was the first run out in front of TV cameras before anyone else:



Nor did she say what you accused her of saying:


If you blame Gillibrand, it is hypocritical and unfair not to equally blame all 38 senators.

And you claim "Gillibrand got people to jump on a bandwagon". Can you provide a link to prove that allegation?

madaboutharry

(40,210 posts)
13. I didn't say anywhere in my post "that morning"
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 04:23 PM
Nov 2018

Further, I have no interest in playing semantics with you.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
16. No you didn't
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 04:32 PM
Nov 2018

I said that morning. The point was that Harris was the first to go on TV about it.

You have also alleged, "Gillibrand got people to jump on a bandwagon". Can you provide a link to prove that allegation?

And do you blame all 38 senators equally or just Gillibrand?

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
18. I agree that self-righteousness
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 04:34 PM
Nov 2018

doesn't look good on anyone, but a sincere apology does. Of course, I won't hold my breath on that one. The more she is criticized, the more she seems to double down. Not exactly presidential.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. eh, don't care really
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:22 PM
Nov 2018

she's like 10th on the list of probable nominees. Biden, Sanders, Harris, Booker, Warren, Brown, Beto, Castro...just off the top of my head.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
8. But women should be held accountable...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 03:32 PM
Nov 2018

especially those who threw their power around like a wrecking crew. Go away. Just. Go. Away.

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