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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:22 PM Nov 2018

Did Mueller set Trump up?

What if Trump's answers he submitted to Mueller last week relied on statements made by Manafort - and now it comes out those statements were lies and Trump just lied himself?



Curious this happens shortly after Trump sent his answers...

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Did Mueller set Trump up? (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Nov 2018 OP
Did y'all hear trump's asshole slam shut just then? NightWatcher Nov 2018 #1
yes... and, to answer the OP question: No one needs to "set" Teflon Don tRump up... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #23
Your verbage brought back a childhood memory. Glamrock Nov 2018 #27
looks like it Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #2
Fed to him through Whitaker? Cary Nov 2018 #3
a ray of sunshine Kitchari Nov 2018 #9
Manafort's lawyers meet with him in privacy. watoos Nov 2018 #19
Trump's lawyers and Manafort's lawyers reportedly have a joint defense agreement onenote Nov 2018 #31
"Set up"? Naah ... RHMerriman Nov 2018 #4
tRump, thinks he's the smartest guy in the universe, the stable genius. He isn't, he's RKP5637 Nov 2018 #5
The smartest person I ever met, never bragged that he was smart. His name is Bob. Stuart G Nov 2018 #10
I absolutely would vote for Bob. babylonsister Nov 2018 #13
We have so many smart and extremely capable individuals in the US, and we are saddled with this loud RKP5637 Nov 2018 #17
with the loss of the Fairness Doctrine, thx to Reagan, dump is the manifestation of decades of diva77 Nov 2018 #25
Yes, it is, it's really a plan/implementation to bring down and destroy the US democracy. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #30
I'm afraid it's more than just the electoral system. triron Nov 2018 #26
Sadly, quite true! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #29
I really like the thinking of this thread leanforward Nov 2018 #6
Mueller didnt have to set him up. He sets himself up. Amaryllis Nov 2018 #7
Shhhh, it's a secret... Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #8
I do not believe that it is a secret that Trump sets himself up. But Trump fails to do what most Stuart G Nov 2018 #11
I like to precede that with a 3 word lead in that Trump also doesn't do... Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #12
You have hit the jackpot and all the gold..."shut up, and listen." That is the answer 4 Trump Stuart G Nov 2018 #14
Not sure.... FarPoint Nov 2018 #15
"Set up"? You've seen Trump in action for the past few years, right? The man is a guileless toddler. Shaddox Nov 2018 #16
Dastardly deed... HipChick Nov 2018 #18
"My lawyers don't write answers. I write answers", said Trump Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #20
Those statements would haunt him gratuitous Nov 2018 #21
Yep I think he just walked himself into his own cell. Volaris Nov 2018 #22
Could be the other way around also. Manafort kept to his lies for Trump's benefit. triron Nov 2018 #24
Whittaker probably informed Trump and his lawyers what Manafort said. Kablooie Nov 2018 #28
See post #31 onenote Nov 2018 #32

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
23. yes... and, to answer the OP question: No one needs to "set" Teflon Don tRump up...
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 12:54 AM
Nov 2018

He keeps setting himself up for a bust with every word he tweets.

Glamrock

(11,799 posts)
27. Your verbage brought back a childhood memory.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:45 AM
Nov 2018

Joke my dad used yo tell when I was 7 or 8.

Q: Ya know why shit's tapered?
A: If it wasn't, your asshole would slam shut!

That was the funniest thing in the world back then....along with The Carol Burnett show anyway.

Thanks for the reminder!

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
2. looks like it
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:24 PM
Nov 2018

Fed him misleading information and Manafort passed it to Trump somehow....

Someone says Shine was involved?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
31. Trump's lawyers and Manafort's lawyers reportedly have a joint defense agreement
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:56 AM
Nov 2018

that allows them to share information. No need to involve Whitaker or do anything secretly if that's the case. Personally, however, I think the speculation that Mueller "set up" Trump is overblown.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
4. "Set up"? Naah ...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:31 PM
Nov 2018

More like this:

[link:|]

If the fish bites on a lure, it's not because the fish was "set up" ... it's because the fish is stupid and thinks something shiny is going to taste good.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
5. tRump, thinks he's the smartest guy in the universe, the stable genius. He isn't, he's
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:33 PM
Nov 2018

a damn fucken bullying fool.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
10. The smartest person I ever met, never bragged that he was smart. His name is Bob.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:49 PM
Nov 2018

A doctor, immunologist, knew him from high school. Valedictorian from High School..Some eastern Ivy League college.. Heard from someone else that he was well known in his field. He once confided that he had been throughout the world lecturing only after I told him I had traveled to Japan. Modest, kind, helpful. respectful, a class act...
...The exact opposite of Trump who is a stupid, self centered, and a mean bully. Always extolling himself and his terrific deeds. Cannot keep his mouth shut. How sad that Bob is not the president and Trump is. Hell, I would do a better job than Trump. (and most of us here would too)..

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
17. We have so many smart and extremely capable individuals in the US, and we are saddled with this loud
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:32 PM
Nov 2018

mouthed stupid bully. There is clearly something wrong with our electoral process when an ass like Trump can become president.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
25. with the loss of the Fairness Doctrine, thx to Reagan, dump is the manifestation of decades of
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:18 AM
Nov 2018

consolidated bully talk radio/fux network that has snuffed out reasonable, fact-based discourse. Add dark money, and election fraud and voila! meet imposter-president dump and his rethug accomplices around the US

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
11. I do not believe that it is a secret that Trump sets himself up. But Trump fails to do what most
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:54 PM
Nov 2018

truly smart people do...and it is pretty easy if one practices and tries to do it...It is a one word project that most really smart people do...just one word...Obama did it..(1 word)...listen....

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
12. I like to precede that with a 3 word lead in that Trump also doesn't do...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:58 PM
Nov 2018

that would be:

"shut up, and..."

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
14. You have hit the jackpot and all the gold..."shut up, and listen." That is the answer 4 Trump
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:04 PM
Nov 2018


......

FarPoint

(12,352 posts)
15. Not sure....
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:05 PM
Nov 2018

When did tRump get the questions? Manafort didn't start talking with Mueller until I believe September 2018 once found guilty in first trial...
So, I think the timing of tRump receiving the questions would give insight to possible or not possible bait questions...

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
20. "My lawyers don't write answers. I write answers", said Trump
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 12:41 AM
Nov 2018

"I was asked a series of questions. I've answered them very easily".

Game. Set. Match.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Those statements would haunt him
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 12:47 AM
Nov 2018

If Trump had a conscience. Instead, when he needs to dodge responsibility later, he'll just lie again and blame someone else for his damning answers.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
28. Whittaker probably informed Trump and his lawyers what Manafort said.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 03:53 AM
Nov 2018

So they would coordinate Trump's responses with what they thought Mueller knew.
Mueller knew they would do this so he wouldn't tell Whittaker that Manafort lied.

That's why he wanted a delay for Manaforts sentencing.
He wanted Trumps signed statements first.

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