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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:34 PM Nov 2018

Just now wondering if the Manafort breach wasn't a set up by Mueller to get his report out

to the public. If it was, it was a brilliant move. Somehow i believe that Mueller always knew these Trumpian scum bags would like because they knew they would be pardoned. But what if Trump doesn't pardon them? Why should he because once Mueller's report is out nothing will be hidden from the public. In a fit of terror he may not pardon any of them for not protecting him better.

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Just now wondering if the Manafort breach wasn't a set up by Mueller to get his report out (Original Post) allgood33 Nov 2018 OP
Here's an interesting theory about that... Kablooie Nov 2018 #1
emptywheel: Mueller Just Guaranteed He Can Issue a Public Report enough Nov 2018 #2
... babylonsister Nov 2018 #3

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
1. Here's an interesting theory about that...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:54 PM
Nov 2018

This is from the Palmer Report that often has over the top, exaggerated speculations but this one sounds plausible.

Trump’s only reason for submitting his answers, instead of trying to drag it out longer, would have been that Mueller had given him a hard deadline. Then Mueller delayed the Manafort revelation until after Trump had turned in his work. While Trump surely wasn’t honest in his answers overall, his lawyers probably at least made sure that his answers didn’t contradict anything that Manafort knew about. In other words, it looks like Mueller just bluffed Trump into confessing to the aspects of the Trump-Russia scandal that Manafort was present for.

Paul Manafort is a career criminal and serial fraudster. He got caught conspiring with a Russian spy to try to tamper with witnesses ahead of his trial. Robert Mueller probably knew from the start that Manafort would screw up the plea deal. But that didn’t prevent Mueller from using it to get Donald Trump to commit himself to written answers under the assumption that Mueller already knew what Manafort knew. Now that’s just brilliant.


https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/bluff-submission-mueller-manafort-trump/14269/

enough

(13,259 posts)
2. emptywheel: Mueller Just Guaranteed He Can Issue a Public Report
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:10 PM
Nov 2018
https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/11/26/manafort-tests-the-theory-of-an-unpardonable-plea/?fbclid=IwAR1lC4Lr1YLD0UyKNXk-LvNMIgoS-68B_QTVET9Sul0PPyUKPkDjFL6Kr74

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But Mueller’s team appears to have no doubt that Manafort was lying to them. That means they didn’t really need his testimony, at all. It also means they had no need to keep secrets — they could keep giving Manafort the impression that he was pulling a fast one over the prosecutors, all while reporting misleading information to Trump that he could use to fill out his open book test. Which increases the likelihood that Trump just submitted sworn answers to those questions full of lies.

And that “detailed sentencing submission … sett[ing] forth the nature of the defendant’s crimes and lies” that Mueller mentions in the report?

There’s your Mueller report, which will be provided in a form that Matt Whitaker won’t be able to suppress. (Reminder: Mueller included 38 pages of evidence along with Manafort’s plea agreement, which I argued showed how what Manafort and Trump did to Hillary was the same thing that Manafort had done to Yulia Tymoshenko.)

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