I'll vote for Chelsea Clinton when...

[CabCurious]

1. She moves to a working-class area of NYC.
2. She runs for city council and spends at least 10 years doing hard work for average people.
3. She then runs for mayor.

For now she's just a privileged, limo socialite who worked in a hedge-fund between graduate degrees.

What's she going to DO with all these great opportunities she's been given?

We'll see.

The cynical side of me says she's keep one foot in superficial non-profits and another foot as a media "commentator." That would be easy and very comfortable.

[bluestateguy]

1. I'm going to assume you mean in the primary

But if she is your general election nominee then you have her running on the party platform that is for the working people or some generic Republican who will pursue policies that benefit the privileged, limo socialites and hedge funds.

[CabCurious]

3. I'm saying nobody is going to support her as a candidate for national office in NYS...

In the next decade.

[RandySF]

2. I hope she starts on the local level.

I don't doubt that she's smart enough to hold elective office, but I hope she does not feel privileged enough to start with Congress. New York Assembly would not be too ambitious.

[CabCurious]

6. It would be a total disaster for her to go the legislative route (esp in NYS)

First of all, nobody is going to take her seriously in Albany. It's rougher than DC.

Secondly, the Assembly isn't exactly the place to make a real difference. A NYC Councilwoman can.

[bluestateguy]

10. The NY Assembly is a cesspool

And Sheldon Silver runs the show.

[vaberella]

54. Congress is a cesspool as well.

But without that kind of background she's not worth my time. Even if places are shit...You'd think people would support an ideologue who wants to change it or tries too. She may never leave because she wants to clean it up. Shit...Americans deserve that she cleans it up if she aims to be President or even Senator of the State.

[JNelson6563]

45. Oh I dunno.

Here in MI I have seen many people mistakenly start out their political career with a run for US Congress. Often in districts with at least 14 counties. They know nothing of politics besides half a dozen friends convinced them they'd win.

If Chelsea started out with a run for Congress she'd be far better off than many less experienced candidates and have a realistic chance of winning, another difference.

Julie

[Marr]

4. I would never vote for someone who worked for a hedge fund, or a

"consulting" group in the model of Bain. There is no sharper statement that your primary interest is your own enrichment.

BTW, have we seen far more nepotism over the last 15 years or so, or is it just my imagination? Is this one of things societies do when they stagnate?

[CabCurious]

11. Deciding the path of a hedge fund in her 20s was a real show of values.

Not that making money or understanding investing is BAD.

But for somebody with her connections, her education, her name... that's definitely something many of us will remember. It's not exactly the path most progressives take in their 20s... or even want to take.

[WCGreen]

29. i sure as hell would...

I would never vote for someone who worked at a hedge fund.

It's business without any ethics no matter how you slice it. You invest to make money. PERIOD.

I could understand a Mutual Fund.

It's like she went forthe gold before defining herself.

[crimson77]

40. What would make you think she is a progressive?

[vaberella]

55. I went straight into Community Development and never looked back.

Now I am working as a teacher and do plan on running for New York Council in a few years.

[Hugabear]

5. I take it that you didn't support Hillary's Senate run either

After all, she had no real experience other than being married to Bill Clinton.

[CabCurious]

8. I was very cynical about her at first, absolutely...

But then she put in more effort on the ground than any candidate had shown in decades. She put in more effort to get to know upstate new york than most governors ever had.

[Egalitarian Thug]

25. I'm guessing you didn't work for IBM. n/t

[Zalatix]

27. At some point someone will call Chelsea and Hillary PLUTOCRATS

like they did Nancy Pelosi.

*starts his stopwatch*

[vaberella]

56. No she didn't and I sure as hell did not support her for NY State Senate.

I kind of felt she won more so because of her husbands name than experience. And within my political circle she wasn't well liked as a champion in New York State politics. She just voted Dem consistently. That doesn't mean she was great in NYC. But that's neither here nor there, I also felt she should have run for a lower standing in politics not straight for Senate in New York City. People in her hometown okay...but NYS. However, I do consider an effective SOS.

[Summer Hathaway]

7. The woman will do what she will do

she will choose what she will choose, she will accomplish what she will accomplish.

We will vet her credentials when the time comes - same as any other candidate for office.

In the meantime, she should not be judged on the basis of being privileged, having better opportunities than others, having come from money that could afford the best upbringing and education, etc., any more than someone who grew up under-privileged, with few opportunities, and no money available for the best upbringing and education should be judged on that basis.

Chelsea Clinton did not choose to be born into a wealthy, politically influential family - any more than someone chooses to be born into a family with even less money than they have political sway.

If she chooses a life in politics, she will have to prove her mettle - same as the next guy. And she will be judged accordingly.

Until that happens, disparaging her on account of her family's money, power and political position is no different than disparaging someone else for their lack thereof.

[CabCurious]

9. Judge people by what they do with what they are given... agreed.

And I would say it's too early to judge chelsea, although she IS in her 30s and she DID emphasize making money in a hedge fund over many other paths.

[Summer Hathaway]

12. Thanks so much

for deliberately missing the point entirely!

But somehow, deep down inside, I had a feeling you would.

[CabCurious]

13. ILL SAY IT AGAIN: Judge people by what they do with what they are given... AGREED.

Feel free to do something besides insult... and climb upon a pedestal.

I stated in the OP that we'll see. I am stating again that we can't judge her based on simply her privileges thus far.

But she's 32. She HAS made choices.

If she's going into politics then those choices matter, as do her opportunities. I still consider her very young and hopefully having a great future ahead of her.

[Summer Hathaway]

14. The fact that you immediately

took my response as an insult, along with the 'pedestal' reference, tells me everything I need to know.

Thanks again for confirming my initial thoughts on the matter at hand.

[CabCurious]

16. and...

Now you can't even admit to an insult. lol

Give me a break.

[Thinkingabout]

50. GREAT POST

Chelsea has a lot to live up to with great parents who are very proud of her. Onr of these days she may or may not decide to run for public office but would probably handle herself with class of a super being.

[muriel_volestrangler]

62. Oh, rubbish - your reply was an insult, and you know it

You accused them of "deliberately missing the point entirely"

And said "I had a feeling you would" - ie you are saying you already were inclined to insult them. And you're continuing it with "Thanks again for confirming my initial thoughts on the matter at hand". "tells me everything I need to know" is BS too.

[Ruby the Liberal]

85. If she didn't say it,

I would have.

[Summer Hathaway]

88. My reply was merely an observation

based on other posts by this DU participant.

Whether that is to be taken as an insult is also a matter of observation.

[demosincebirth]

15. A common sense post. Thank you.

[Summer Hathaway]

17. And thank you for having said so. n/t

[Katie]

18. +1

[Scootaloo]

28. It's just DU's tabloid populism popping up again

Random hate against democrats because it seems like it'll be hip to hate 'em.

[Bonobo]

34. Yes, but one can be critical of the culture that worships a form of royalty

without criticizing her personally.

I would be loathe to support her knowing that she would have been chosen, in large part, because of her bloodline and I do NOT wish to support that kind of a system.

[bigwillq]

83. Good post.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

19. She had a myriad of doors opened to her, yet she went the hedge fund route

She seemed like a good kid, and it pissed me off to no end when the jerks of the rightwing went after her - but, that said, I'd never vote for her.

[loyalsister]

66. Aside from the obvious personal benefits of the hedge fund route

Maybe there's an advantage for critics to having more inside details. That said, I would rather see her taking a leadership role NOW or some other liberal non profit advocacy group. Just think of the fundraising bump and appeal you young women she could give NOW.

[Katie]

20. Do any of you realize Dems took money from the very firms Chelsea worked for?

Honestly I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Talk about hypocrisy. So much hate for the two firms Chelsea worked and yet the these two firms have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to both Hillary and Obama and other Democratic candidates.

Ok to take their money I see.

[Katie]

21. Yes because the Kennedys and the Roosevelts were so poor

[exboyfil]

58. Both Roosevelts worked their way up

No doubt they had advantages but Franklin went from state legislature, assistance sec of the Navy, failed run on VP ticket, governor of NY, and finally President.

Teddy had even more lower offices and built his career up to getting the VP nod (actually was made VP to get him out of New York because he was challenging the machine too much as governor).

I grant you the Kennedy's started on second/third base and thought they had hit a double/triple. John was a war hero which went to Congress, then Senate, and then the Presidency so his was a reasonable progression (of course aided by his father's connections all the way). You can't say that about the Roosevelts. Robert? well obviously the Attorney General spot was pure and naked nepotism. It is still amazing that John had enough capital to pull it off. On the other hand if he was not John's brother, he probably had the resume to command such a position given his journalism, law, staffer, and campaign experience. Obviously anything is possible after being AG up to and including the Presidency so Senator was not a reach for him.

Teddy on the other hand had no reason to be Senator except being the brother of John. He is Chelsea's model I think.

It would have been interesting to see how John Jr's career went. I really think he was trying to build a name outside the Kennedy name.

[hack89]

64. Patrick Kennedy had no reason to be a congressman either

Kennedy money bought him a seat in the RI legislature while he was a student at Providence College. He had no history or roots in RI but it was decided that it would be easier to get him into congress if he moved to RI.

[exboyfil]

69. The problem with dynasties

Joe Kennedy was pretty sleezy but he was smart and ambitious (self made man). His children were not the smartest, but they did have some talent. The third generation feels entitled to start on third base.

[longship]

22. What the fuck is all this Chelsea Clinton bashing?

Last edited Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Just because she grew up as a President's daughter you malign her like she was the devil incarnate.

Fuck you all. You are no better than the douche bag who called her a dog.

Let her go. If you can't say something nice, shut the fuck up. What has she done to you?

Gees! I despise the hatred here sometimes.

Give it a fucking rest. Go have some chocolate, or some cookies and milk. Relax and take a deep breath. Leave the vitriol for people we know are our enemies not some young woman who had no choice of the family into which she was born.

I am disgusted by and ashamed of you all.

[Katie]

31. longship Thank You!

I can't believe what I'm reading here! Oh they hate hedge funds, but haven't a clue that money both Hillary & Obama took came from the very firms Chelsea worked for? WTF?

Now she has to go live in the inner city....why? Did FDR? did JFK? Did RFK? What bullshit.

And not for nothing....FDR and JFK came from extremely wealthy families and that wealth didn't always come from purer than the driven snow sources.

Palin gets to be VP...and these are Chelsea's academic accomplishments : graduate of Stanford and Oxford. She was awarded an M.Phil. in international relations in 2003. In 2010, She completed a Master of Public Health degree at Columbia Mailman School of Public Health. Also in 2010, she served as Assistant Vice Provost for the Global Network University of New York University. In 2011, she began pursuing a doctoral degree in international relations from Oxford University. In 2012, she started teaching graduate classes at Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health.


Are you people frigging kidding? Not smart enough?

She didnt even say she was running for anything or a specific elected office, only that she would keep the door open

You're right longship......no different from what republicans said and did her when she was 12 years old. Hateful.

I heard the same bullshit when Gillibrand was appointed, how NY would drop into a bottomless pit, how "dangerous" she was .

I'm disgusted and ashamed also...and they say Republicans eat their own?

Thank you longship you said exactly what needed to be said, thanks for speaking up.

Disgusting almost bordering on Misogyny.....Would this ever be done to a male? I just have to wonder

[longship]

33. Omfg, Katie.

I got so pissed off that I was almost ashamed of it. Thank you my friend for your post. It brought copious tears to my eyes.

I just cannot come to grips with the hatred in this world, especially on our forums here. It hurts us all. Why don't people understand that.

May I please give you a hug. I need one, too.

[Katie]

36. longship!

Yes, you may and here's one back, in fact 2! It makes me sad too...but u know what? It also makes me angry. I dont know what she ever did to make anyone hate her.....wtf? "It's the hedge fund" Really? your dem candidates love those hedge funds when it comes to money for campaigning. LOVE THEM!

I dont know what's with people here sometimes, its like 2008 , oh for god's sake get over it already!

I live in NY. I could give a flying fig what some poster "wants" Chelsea to "do" in order for him/her to give their "blessing"

If she ever decides to run, I'm voting for her and no she doesn't have to live in the Bronx or Harlem or become homeless for me to do that....screw you.

It was the same with Gillibrand here and she proved them wrong.

I just have to ask.....is it because they are women?

JFK and Roosevelt were loaded to the gills! And what....do people think that money came from "pure" sources all the time? Did JFK move to the inner city? Did Roosevelt? To prove themselves? What nonsense.

Thank you so much for showing up! You are a truly decent person and I appreciate it so much!

[longship]

39. Thx much.

Me, too, you.

[JNelson6563]

47. +1 for this subthread

Doesn't it sometimes seem we're on FR instead of DU?

Julie

[longship]

49. There are still some good old timers here.

We're not going away. DU is often like herding the proverbial cats. Sometimes the chair throwers need to be chewed out. I could no longer stand the BS in this thread.

Glad to see another.


There are more of us here than any could imagine. I don't post a lot because I eschew the DU cat fights. But sometimes it goes way too far and I cannot help myself.

Thank you, friend.

[JNelson6563]

86. Please weigh in more often!

Many thanks for saying what needed to be said. I appreciated Katie's thoughts too. I hope you'll post more often.



Julie

[Drunken Irishman]

43. JFK proved himself fighting a war...

I have no problem with Chelsea Clinton and think she's a very bright lady. But it's not like FDR or JFK just fell into their elections. Roosevelt was the Assistant Secretary of the Navy during World War I, was a state senator and then a governor. He worked his way up the political ladder before eventually attaining the White House. JFK was a war hero, who was then a congressman and then a senator.

If Chelsea wants to run for political office, great, but if she wants to be a senator, she needs to run for lower office and earn her stripes.

[Katie]

46. And who said she had other plans than that?

You've missed the point completely. She didn't even say she was running for anything, let alone senate. But hey, if she does...it will have to be by DU Rules, as listed by the OP. Also, how could you have missed how much "rich" bothers him? And how abhorrent Hedge funds are....even though our candidates take it hand over fist?

Do you know how many times FDR and JFK have been called limousine liberals? Do you?

I've also heard FDR was "given" his Secretary of the Navy position because he had connections.

Or that JFK had a ghost writer and his father's money to get the Pulitzer prize for "Profiles in Courage"

And that JFK wasn't really a "hero" that his father had connections to get him the command of that PT Boat and what he did was nothing "heroic"...the real heroes were kept quiet by Joe Kennedy's money.

And guess where I heard all that? Come on take a guess! In the Republican county I grew up in.

Its called perception, it's also called lying about people because you want to distort their image.

There is no denying, none....that both JFK and FDR came from extremely wealthy families, they did. And there is no denying that their money came from far worse things than Hedge Funds. And they could have sat back and enjoyed their lives, but they didn't.

They wanted to do something to help others. Though rich they could still relate, they didn't have to go live in the worst parts of town, but they knew they existed.

To eliminate someone on the basis of being wealthy, is stupid. Sorry but I just can't think of any other word to describe it. If that were true, then JFK and FDR did the best academy award acting jobs of pretending to care for others that were less fortunate.

I think Chelsea, should she so wish, has said the "door is open". She didn't saying she was running for president or senate or anything.

But unlike a lot of people here, I am willing to give her a chance. Lets see what she does before she's hung in effigy.

Yes she is wealthy, but so were the other two, it doesn't preclude her from having empathy for others who aren't.


This thread so reminded me of where I grew up, before I escaped to the city. And I should have know better than to even aggravate myself to post, because it was the same way Gillibrand was treated. She was going to be a "disaster". Oh Caroline Kennedy was so much better! Turns out she has been one of the best damn senators, we've ever had. Glad I didn't have to depend on DU for approval. Gillibrand had many different views, but she said herself...she was now senator of the whole state and she had to consider what the majority expected of her.


Doesn't kill anyone to give people a chance to prove what they can do, no matter where they come from and whether or not they have money. We have seen that in our own party. But it's sad to see some of the hateful comments on here from our own party.

[Drunken Irishman]

51. I'll be honest, I didn't read your whole post...

She's free to run. We're free to criticize. If she was Chelsea Rosenblat, I doubt anyone would give her the time of day. Not to say she isn't deserving, but the fact we're even discussing this shows just how much weight her name carries.

Like I said, if she wants to run ... great. I hope she runs. I think we need more bright people in politics. But I hope she runs for something other than senate - if she runs.

[treestar]

75. +1

We had the same debate on DU when Caroline Kennedy was going to fall into the NY Senate Seat.

When it's a republican family we complain. No more Bushes!

[vaberella]

57. You think that because she was the President daughter it gives her carte blanche.

No one is bashing but clearly stating they need more from her. They need grassroots to see her as a progressive and I don't see anything wrong with that. I am a New Yorker. I need someone who's at the local level to know how to truly handle themselves at the top. If you want her running your State great. I need more.

That hardly means bashing.

[longship]

61. Do not put words in my mouth!!!

I am pissed off enough about this.

I don't give a fuck for whom she works. You paint hedge funds as evil incarnate. Get real. Read Michael Lewis' The Big Short. There were hedge fund managers who were aghast of what was happening and saw the meltdown way before. There were many in the money industry who saw it and they did their best to blow the whistle within the system. It didn't work.

You guys are painting with a broad brush here, always a bad sign.

I am disgusted by these arguments. You malign a person of whom you know little to nothing about her aspirations, let alone her job. You see the magic word hedge fund and you are willing to portray her as a witch.

I am done with this thread. The whole thing is dispicible.

[vaberella]

80. How am I putting words in your mouth?

Why are you even getting pissed off...is she your daughter or something.

Read your post and reread mine! I never mentioned her hedgefund connections at all. Not in one of my posts did I care about her background with hedgefunds or the financial sector. You are definitely putting words in mine.

No one is bashing her. You consider people stating the fact of her employment background is bashing. Some people don't like it. I think those people have a legitimate reason for it. Since it's those guys that helped fuck up our economy along with Republican obstruction and buy out (by said groups). If she was running for office...that will come to bite her her back.

There are a good number of people who hate insider financial people getting into politics especially since there has been a call and push for progressives in all matters. For them, she'd need to prove her progressive stance and unfortunately her past employment will be seen a negative than positive. Again that is hardly bashing.

You may not have a problem, but these people have a legitimate concern and you considering it bashing is utterly ridiculous. It's a fact she can't erase.

As for putting words in your mouth...You definitely didn't read my post because I don't care about her hedgefund background. I care about her grassroots employment background and maybe working for the people in Queensbridge or Mott Haven. Until then...she is not credible as Senator.

[LaydeeBug]

73. Jealousy, plain and simple. nt

[treestar]

74. She was in the news

That tends to make people talk.

There was a suggestion she would run for office.

[longship]

78. Who suggested that she might run for office?

I will bet my bottom dollar that it was the so-called journalist. So Chelsea responds with a non-committal answer and DU goes crazy all but accusing her of god only knows what.

The whole thing is dispicible.

Leave her alone. She's not running for anything yet.

[treestar]

79. Well maybe they are responding to the journalist

to the suggestion, that others will jump on, that this person should run for office, just because.

We are allowed to discuss these things.

why do we have to "leave her alone?" It's not going to harm her. She will never have to worry about making a living, etc. How is she harmed by discussing the idea she is not qualified for office just because her father was President once? We said the same when some wanted to hand the Senate seat to Caroline Kennedy.

[NCTraveler]

81. +1

[NYC Liberal]

89. A-freaking-men. Wish I could rec an individual post.

[Katie]

23. Well lets see...she has a Masters in Public Health and currently teaches it at Columbia

Not good enough? Maybe she should give away everything and become homeless, would that be more satisfactory?

[WCGreen]

30. It's the Hedge Fund thing that gets me.

[Katie]

32. Well it sure doesn't get to our candidates! They take it with both hands

say thank you and move on. Who are you kidding....except maybe yourself?

[WCGreen]

37. I mean I don't understand why anyone would work for a Hedge Fund and then

decide to run as a democrat.

[Katie]

42. Then try and understand this....Your candidates take it.

No one forces them...if it's green....they love it.

[WCGreen]

48. It's one thing to receive donations from a person who works at a Hedge Fund....

It's quite a different thing to have bought into the whole idea behind that way of making money and work there.

When I ran for office I accepted contributions from people who owned bars. I am an Alcoholic and still took the money.

[vaberella]

59. Not good enough for Senator no. If so, then I know a lot of people who should be Senator.

Having a great education, teaching it at a High level university, and having a high degree doesn't mean you're qualified. Then Ron Paul is beyond qualified and I hate Ron Paul in all his politics.

Additionally, based on your reasoning then I know a lot of people who should be qualified for Senate.

[DonCoquixote]

24. hey

Before we get into another Clinton Fight, the sort GOP ops are undoubtedly trying to revive, cane we at least hear IF Chelsea is running for so much as dogcatcher?

Come now, am I the only one who sees this rumor stirring as possible Troll psy ops trying to rip open the wounds of 2008 so people stay home?

[Katie]

35. GOP ops? That's not even needed here.

enough hate to go around without it. Did she say she was running for office? NO! Does that matter? Nope. What she did say was she was open to it in the future. But oh no! We can't have that. Another Clinton! Horrors! Well tell you what, tell Bill to stay away from the Convention. People remember hard times before he came into office and better times when he left. Thats what he reminds people of. I hear that day in and day out from people, contrary to whats on this board. You see him and you think another Democrat will get us through like he did. Stick with this party. I wonder how he would feel if he saw what people are saying about his daughter? Honestly it's like landing on a Republican board. Sad.

[aquart]

26. Scary obsessions are not healthy.

Neither is irrational rumor-mongering.

[intaglio]

38. So you would not have voted for FDR?

Not that Chelsea Clinton is a new FDR

[Katie]

44. Apparently not....FDR was "RICH'

and it was from inherited wealth! JFK too! And we all know that money came from things far worse than hedge funds. They were rich, how could they possibly understand what the poor or middle class go through? Riding around in their limousines and their maids and butlers. So nope...No votes for them!

[vaberella]

60. I probably wouldn't have. I was more a fan of Teddy Roosevelt.

Helps he was a New York Police Commissioner. However it helped that neither were very race friendly. Secondly, if Teddy was Police Commissioner today with everything withstanding, I can assure you that I would NEVER vote him for President.

[Katie]

41. CabCurious Got a Bulletin for you

Quite frankly I don't give a damn what you "expect" Chelsea to do to "satisfy" you enough to get your vote. Who cares? Who died and made you God?

What unmitigated gall!

She's an independent woman, she'll do what she wants when she's good and ready. She doesn't have to take orders from a poster on DU.

Too bad you weren't around to tell JFK and FDR what "you" think they would have to do to "earn" your vote. I'm sure they would have immediately given up all their inherited wealth to please you. I'm sure they would be ashamed of their inherited wealth and some of the sources it came from too. Then immediately move to the inner city to "prove" themselves.

Nah, they probably would have told you to take your head out of your..certain part of your anatomy.

Thanks so much for this hate filled thread, it brought back memories of the republican county in NY I grew up in.....and fled, to greener democratic pastures in the city.

Keep your vote.

[Thinkingabout]

52. She must scare the living hell out of you, she is strong and smart, and has great parents.

She also possesses great genes and is capable, don't throw the baby out with the water.

[dballance]

53. Why the qualifiers?

Cynical is a good admission.

I fail to see why you would disqualify Ms. Clinton if she has not lived in a "working class" area of NYC. What exactly makes an area "working class" and who should be the arbiter of that?

I'm also confused why she must hold lower office and spend time in office doing hard work for average people. Why would it not be okay for her to do hard work in a higher office? You might have forgotten that Bloomberg is a billionaire several times over and he's not acting like a limo socialite. Oh, you might want to remember that until Bloomberg was elected in 2002 he never held public office.

No he didn't spend at least ten years working with the common people. Or living among the unwashed masses in a "working class" area. And he sure as hell had a lot more money than Chelsea.

[longship]

63. I am not done here. Please read.

Stop it. Stop it! STOP IT!

What has Clinton's daughter done to you, or any of the other DUers who seem intent on maligning her.

Since many of you seem to need some schooling on this subject, I will leave you all with the following quote by Joseph N. Welch during the Senate McCarthy hearings:

Senator, may we not drop this? We know he belonged to the Lawyers Guild. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?

It seems that too fucking many DUers were not alive during the McCarthy era. Alas, they have lost their sense of decency.

Another quote by George Santayana comes to mind here:

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Enough is fucking enough. Stop this!!

Now!

[Capt. Obvious]

65. I was planning on pulling the lever for Joe Kennedy III in November

But you've convinced me he doesn't deserve it.

[GoCubsGo]

67. Is she running for some office?

I hadn't heard that. What's she running for?

[WilliamPitt]

68. We really have nothing better to do than knock Chelsea Clinton around?

Really?

[NNN0LHI]

72. It is to be expected here Will

Anonymous website and all.

Nothing surprises me any more here.

Nothing.

Don

[revolution breeze]

70. She is still a young woman

Can you imagine being a teenage with Secret Service following your every move? Let her have a real life before we push her into the political limelight again.

[Jennicut]

71. Why is this endlessly debated here? Did she say she is going to run for something today?

No. She is probably interested in politics like most politician's kids because she grew up watching from the inside. Lots of Dems grew up with privilege. What matters is what your views are. I grew up in a wealthy town and will one day inherit a property worth millions through my parents. I am far from a right winger as one can get. I doubt Chelsea has any views close to a Repubs and I doubt she runs for any kind of office tomorrow. She is only 32.

[treestar]

76. She got a Vogue cover

It's natural to discuss the privilege and the leg-up she has. And the suggestion she should just run for office like she's sort of entitled to it - I mean there are other people running for those offices who have experience and had to work their way up.

[Jackpine Radical]

77. This is really getting tiresome.

Chelsea ain't runnin' fer nuttin'.

She's off making money. I despise Wall Street, Goldman Sucks, and all that, but it's her choice.

And I repeat--

Chelsea ain't runnin' fer nuttin'.

Give it a rest.

[datasuspect]

82. it's just the "clever ones" being clever

i'll bet you dollars to donuts some of them run back and forth to their collective rw internet sewer sites bragging about how they're "bringing it" to DU.

it's all bullshit.

and transparent as hell.

[datasuspect]

84. did you hold those same standards when you voted for Bush?

[Paladin]

87. Try Working On The Non-Cynical Side Of Yourself.

If you have one, that is.

FYI, most of us don't give a shit that Ms. Clinton needs to be awarded a Heroine of the Proletariat medal to receive your blessing and your vote........