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PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:40 AM Nov 2018

About this "GM THING"...

I recall in 1980 the late "great" Ronnie Reagan took a trip to Pittsburgh, donned a hardhat and went to the steel mills which, at that time, were churning out vast amounts of steel products for America and much of the world. Standing there in his workshirt and hardhat, he joked around with the workers and told stories of "Welfare Queens driving Cadillacs" and the like. Patted these workers on the back, got back in his limo and took off.

They all thought he was a great guy and voted for him. Reagan's trade policies essentially caused the near-shuttering of American steel production and most of these huge, bustling plants went silent after decades of literally non-stop, 24 hour a day production.

But but but...Welfare Queens!!!

But but but...Hillary's emails!!!

But but but...Border Wall!!!

But but but...no fucking jobs at the plant. I hope each of those dumbasses who voted for Trump sobs on his or her way to the Unemployment Office to register for the benefits...or as the Trump/McConnellistas would call them: the "entitlements which need to be cut back".

I do feel bad for those who voted with the Democrats who now, unfortunately, get to say, "Toldja so!" to the dopes.

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About this "GM THING"... (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 2018 OP
If memory serves, no_hypocrisy Nov 2018 #1
Yes and yes. nt PCIntern Nov 2018 #2
AND......... MyOwnPeace Nov 2018 #3
Locals don't like to call it that... GetRidOfThem Nov 2018 #9
Good to hear! MyOwnPeace Nov 2018 #11
Yes! A DC resident TOLD me that! Back in about 2004. National Airport! raging moderate Nov 2018 #17
That,right there True Blue American Nov 2018 #5
And remember, until Reagan, Republicans were Democrats Lite. no_hypocrisy Nov 2018 #7
Nixon actually wanted health care True Blue American Nov 2018 #8
Geared to kill our unions Left-over Nov 2018 #13
Love True Blue American Nov 2018 #16
More to keep in mind: PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #22
My Dad was three years from retiring from Edgar Thompson works livetohike Nov 2018 #4
I heard Union True Blue American Nov 2018 #6
Exactly. My Dad passed in 2004, but in my head I can hear what livetohike Nov 2018 #10
My Son was. Only company True Blue American Nov 2018 #14
My dad was cut from National Tube in McKeesport... Efilroft Sul Nov 2018 #12
You said it all. True Blue American Nov 2018 #15
I remember those years. liberalmuse Nov 2018 #18
It's still that way in Ohio RainCaster Nov 2018 #23
You nailed it. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #19
Remember when RepubliCONS called corporations job creators? Farmer-Rick Nov 2018 #20
Being a Pittsbugh native and living there at this time The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #21

no_hypocrisy

(46,097 posts)
1. If memory serves,
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:57 AM
Nov 2018

Reagan bamboozled union workers in 1980 by capitalizing on two factors:

1. He didn't strongly flex his anti-union muscles until PATCO when he fired the air traffic controllers; so he was an unknown commodity.
and
2. The workers trusted him because Reagan was well known as the former president of a large union, SAG (Screen Actors Guild). Back in those days, it was unheard of a brother/sister to betray unions.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
3. AND.........
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:15 AM
Nov 2018

I think it is an outrage that they named an airport in our nation's capital after "Raygun" after what he did to the air traffic controllers' union.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
9. Locals don't like to call it that...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:09 AM
Nov 2018

To us, it is still simply "National Airport". Most people I know cringe when it is called by its full name... (I won't repeat it here)

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
17. Yes! A DC resident TOLD me that! Back in about 2004. National Airport!
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:09 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Thank you! I couldn't remember the exact right name! National Airport! I will remember!

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
5. That,right there
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:37 AM
Nov 2018

Was what the suckers believed. Former Union President!

But they still voted for Republicans who slowly but surely destroyed their protection. The terrible Unions! Honestly, they still do not understand. I can not figure why so many of them believe the Unions are at fault. I actually hear that from Union members.

no_hypocrisy

(46,097 posts)
7. And remember, until Reagan, Republicans were Democrats Lite.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:44 AM
Nov 2018

Gerry Ford, Nixon (who created the EPA and Head Start), Eisenhower, Bob Dole. Union workers didn't see there was a change a-coming.

Left-over

(234 posts)
13. Geared to kill our unions
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:51 AM
Nov 2018

The whole deal in advertising, reviews, and rating systems is geared to make non-union automobiles and other products look sexier and more appealing, even though there is proof that is contrary to that, than union made counter parts. In this we need to remember that the mass media is owned by the supporters of right wing propaganda.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
22. More to keep in mind:
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:44 AM
Nov 2018

Lane Kirkland, then head of the AFL-CIO supported Reagan's firing of the PATCO workers. That was a betrayal, pure and simple.

If anyone calls DCA anything other than Washington National Airport to me, I correct them. I worked there for ten years. Eventually the name will be changed back, I'm sure of that.

It was around that time that the demonizing of unions began in full force, and continues to this day. The whole "right to work" bullshit is an essential part of that.

I started my working life in 1966 with Ma Bell, as an information operator, later a toll (long distance) one. In Arizona, which at the time was only one of two "right to work" states in the country. We were very aware that we were paid less than our sisters (the operator job was more than 99% female at the time) in other states. I have also never forgotten exactly who crossed the picket line during the 1968 strike.

livetohike

(22,142 posts)
4. My Dad was three years from retiring from Edgar Thompson works
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:29 AM
Nov 2018

in Braddock PA in 1983. His seniority saved his job, but many 20+ years of service lost their jobs. The plant is one of the few still open in the Pgh area. He despised Reagan long before this. He called him “that B list actor”.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
6. I heard Union
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:40 AM
Nov 2018

Members call Reagan much worse. But fools still admire him.

From B List actor to Reality star. Liar, bigot and con man. Actually both of them were. So was Nixon.

livetohike

(22,142 posts)
10. Exactly. My Dad passed in 2004, but in my head I can hear what
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:34 AM
Nov 2018

he would say about Trump! My Dad was a Union steward and Democratic committee man for years. It’s why I love politics.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
14. My Son was. Only company
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:00 AM
Nov 2018

In town that had a Union for Engineers. His dad was 100% Union.

The place that gave them all College Educations.

Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
12. My dad was cut from National Tube in McKeesport...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:49 AM
Nov 2018

…with six months to go before he reached full pension eligibility. He was still a young man then with nearly 20 years on the job, and was one of the few steelworkers with the foresight to see the mills weren't coming back. He was able to find employment on the locks with the Army Corps of Engineers and was able to work 22 more years. My dad was also smart enough to realize Reagan was a complete flim-flam man, but nobody at the mill would listen to him. Of course, those damn fools were Reagan Democrats. Now most of them are probably Trump MAGAbillies, and living proof that wisdom doesn't necessarily come with age.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
18. I remember those years.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:10 AM
Nov 2018

On my visits to relatives in Ohio, I saw first hand how his policies devasted once thriving smaller towns. They became havens for drugs, crime and despondency. Republican policies hurt the working class, so The Southern Strategy and wedge issues are their carrot on a stick to lure the voters that they disdain and disparage in private.

RainCaster

(10,872 posts)
23. It's still that way in Ohio
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:13 AM
Nov 2018

My family there still thinks that DFT is their savior. Because he speaks in their dog whistle tongue, he must be one of them.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. You nailed it.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:20 AM
Nov 2018

These jokers are so stupid to have not seen Trump for what he was. After all, millions did see him correctly: a total rich boy wimpy fake who is a pathological liar, narcissistic, and doesn't care one bit for "the working man," whom Trump has taken every opportunity in his life to steal from and screw.

Farmer-Rick

(10,169 posts)
20. Remember when RepubliCONS called corporations job creators?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:20 AM
Nov 2018

We should actually call them job destroyers.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
21. Being a Pittsbugh native and living there at this time
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:33 AM
Nov 2018

I just couldn't understand how blue collar workers could be once again fooled by this line.

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