The "librul" New York Times

[SHRED]

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

1. Great example

[Scurrilous]

2. Democrats in Disarray!

[dalton99a]

5. Democrats better speak softly

[pecosbob]

3. I'd like to take this opportunity to trash The Hill as well...

they've been cooking up this 'rebellion' drivel all week.

[George II]

13. The Hill's headline on this is exactly what you said:

"Democrats overwhelmingly nominate Pelosi as Speaker amid rebellion" (underline is mine)

They even argue with themselves - on the one hand they say "overwhelmingly" but can't leave it at that, they throw in the "amid rebellion".

[watoos]

20. The Hill is pretty bad.

[Maven]

4. Something stinks at the Times. nt

[Lonestarblue]

31. The NYT headline writers are among the worst.

For decades, the Times has been a bastion of anti-Clinton bias. During the 2016 campaign, headlines always downplayed anything bad about Trump and highlighted anything potentially bad about Clinton, as in words like “Trump Foundation Under Scrutiny” versus “ Clinton Foundation Investigated for Fraud”—when they knew the real fraud was the Trump Foundation. I suppose they want to present both sides, but I don’t even bother to click on opinion writers like GOP apologist David Brooks and ultra conservatives Ross Douthat and Bret Stephens, not to mention Clinton hater Maureen Dowd, anymore. They simply aren’t worth reading because they rehash to GOP policies that have never worked or generated the results promised. I would like to see just one conservative admit that trickle-down tax policy is and has always been a hoax and nothing more than a way to reward rich donors. Won’t happen in the NYT.

[Pepsidog]

34. Good insight. I agree with your post.

[Phoenix61]

6. This is what mysogyny looks like. nt

[mercuryblues]

8. Remember this one from the NYT

Yvonne Brill's Obit


NYT Leads Obit For Brilliant Rocket Scientist With A Nod To Her Cooking And Parenting

https://www.buzzfeed.com/shani/new-york-times-leads-obit-for-brilliant-rocket-scientist-wit

[TwistOneUp]

27. Maybe that's because...

It was written by a man? Hmm? D'ya think?

Men speak "lovingly" of the attributes of women *which are the most endearing to them*. So Douglas Martin was *most* endeared to the fact that Dr. Brill took care of the parenting and meal preparation chores. He was less impressed by her career as a real, "ahnest-tah-gahd" rocket scientist.

Clearly, Mr. Martin was interested in the domestic "applications" of women, and not in our professional "uses".

[lark]

26. Its only partly that, part is their pattern of always attacking Democratic women.

Did you see how they treat Ivanka's emails vs. how they treated Clinton's? One is (used to be) the little darling of NYC, so they do a total puff piece on her, no investigation, all gushing and starry eyed, but have always always had Clinton Derangement Syndrome. I will never subscribe to them again as long as this present folks are in charge.

[Phoenix61]

28. She has no real power and stays in her place

Women like her are accepted. Powerful women are not. They are the ones that have to be knocked down and put in their place.

[mcar]

7. ...

[Cha]

9. See what it's like to be a powerful woman in this country?

Link to tweet

[Hermit-The-Prog]

10. needs about 65 million views

More people need to see the clouds and shadows put out by NYT and most other news outlets.

[Cha]

11. Yes! &

for that

[George II]

14. Yes, one view for each of those who, in 2016, voted for a WOMAN to be president! Maybe they'd learn?

[TwistOneUp]

29. Hear here! nt

[LakeArenal]

12. Great post.

[erronis]

15. Just wondering if there has been a change in the NYT editorial biases

Also, I don't think these articles are necessarily equivalent. They don't appear to be "fair" but I wouldn't expect any news outlet to just fill in a template from 8 years earlier. They are written by humans (I think) with editorial oversight (I think), but they would naturally be distinct. Otherwise we could just buy one edition of the NYTimes and fill-in-the-blanks. (Oh, maybe I just saw my flaw.)

[watoos]

22. The Times is the same as 99% of the rest of the corporate M$M.

Why do people keep thinking that there are any liberal M$M outlets, you have to go to Sirius radio to find a progressive station.

I'm 71 but my memory must be better than most. I remember sweet Judy Miller from the NY Times, who got the mushroom cloud article from the Bush White House and printed it in the NY Times under her name. That article was one of the straws that broke the camel's back for our going into Iraq.

Start another thread and I will explain why CNN and msnbc are not liberal.

It's about the narrative, the narrative, the narrative. The right controls the narrative, CNN and msnbc merely put a progressive slant to the right wing narrative.

Example; Impeachment - what is the narrative?

The narrative is that Democrats need to be careful that they don't overstep and push for impeachment, look what happened to Clinton. Democrats need to wait to see if Mueller has anything that warrants impeachment. Democrats need to wait and see if there is proof that Trump is guilty of a crime.

The narrative should be that Trump has done enough right now to be impeached. Trump has done more than Nixon ever did. Nixon hid what he did, Trump is abusing his office in plain sight, obvious for all to see. I won't waste my time listing all of the reasons that both parties should be using right now to impeach Donald Trump.

Need another example?

[erronis]

25. Good points. I think part of the Dems problem is that they want to care

about all sides of the argument.

For whatever reason, repuglicons seem to be very happy seeing only their own side.

Not saying that the NYT, MSNBC, etc. are fundamentally liberal; as you say, they do put on their slant.

[Left-over]

33. I agree with what you say. The MSM is owned by the right wing interests.

[TwistOneUp]

30. It happens everywhere. But it shouldn't.

Orgs are run by peeps.
Peeps have biases.
Orgs have traditionally been lax in the "what, we're biased?" self-examination process.
Rigorous "are we being biased?" discussions / disciplines must be established and enforced.
End of problem.

The real question is, why have orgs not done this? You-hoo! It's 2018!

[dlk]

16. It's the Pervasive Misogyny

[meow2u3]

17. K&R for exposure of the flagrant misogyny at NYT

That's one reason I canceled my NYT subscription. I won't resubscribe until and unless Democrats, liberals, and nontraditional women get better press. NYT must become aware of, and correct, their deep-seated prejudices against women, especially nontraditional women.

[betsuni]

18. K&R

[Garrett78]

19. Sadly, we've been on the defensive for decades when it comes to the narrative about the media.

"Liberal media" is a household term. We've got to change that. And we can't just not criticize the media because Trump has been attacking the media.

We have to talk about media consolidation into the hands of half a dozen giant corporations, false equivalencies, allowing liars to spew nonsense supposedly in the name of fairness, examples like the one in the OP, etc., etc., etc.

And Democrats have to criticize the media via the media, and in stump speeches, as Republicans have been doing to great effect for the last several decades.

The Republican narrative about the media is obviously wrong, and Democrats must change that narrative. Not just say that the narrative is wrong or unfair, but actually establish a whole new, accurate narrative in the public consciousness.

[watoos]

23. My amigo, you are getting it, thank you.

Read my post above.

Want to know something else? There are few Democrats who have the ability to change the narrative. My former Rep. Jack Murtha had the ability to change the narrative for our going into Iraq. He was a marine veteran and a critic for invading Iraq. Nancy Pelosi wanted him as Majority Leader, but strings were pulled and Steny Hoyer beat him out. No matter, they killed Jack when he was having a routine gall bladder operation. they nicked an artery.

Al Franken could change the narrative, he got taken out. Even Michael Avenatti could change the narrative, he got taken out. The youngest woman who just got elected in NY, is it OAC,? she has the ability to change the narrative and Republicans are already at work to take her down.

Nothing that you see on TV or read in the M$M print is liberal. Thank god for internet sites like DU, and there are several others, sadly the right wing corporate narrative is monstrous, far reaching, everywhere.

It really is easy to spot the corporate narrative. Flip cable news channels and watch for similar phrases and code words. It's what makes it harder for Democrats to succeed.

But hey, another example of the corporate narrative, our last election, Trump called it a win, many said it wasn't a blue wave and that was debated. I bet not many people realize, because of the right wing narrative, that over 9 million more people voted for Democrats, that wasn't just a blue wave, it was a record number, none better. The election was a tsunami, things are looking up.

[dweller]

24. you should make this

a post of its own...

✌🏼️

[MyOwnPeace]

37. watoos...........

if not a post of its own, at least you are "working the narrative!"

As you have stated, we need somebody to "change the narrative" and you indeed named some. This is significant. We need to shift from the defensive to the offensive. Every time there's another "BS" tweet from IQ45 (which is about every 5 minutes) there should be a quick and stinging response that clearly shows the "BS" in the original - call it what it is - BULLSHIT!!!

Nowhere have I seen any media proclaim the last election as a "blue wave," let alone a tsunami. As you stated - the numbers tell the truth - but in the current environment, truth isn't really respected, is it?

[VOX]

21. Nice catch, an *In flagrante delicto* lab-specimen of media bias.

Excellent post, SHRED.

[ehrnst]

32. The institutionalized misogynist double standard. (nt)

[roscoeroscoe]

35. Work twice as hard for half as much

Great comparison!

[ffr]

36. I see this slant all the time in headlines, demonizing Dems. WTF!

Fuck you conservative propagandists!

[UpInArms]

38. Truly another garbage media organization

“If Facebook implicated Russia further, Mr. Kaplan said, Republicans would accuse the company of siding with Democrats,” the Times report said. “And if Facebook pulled down the Russians’ fake pages, regular Facebook users might also react with outrage at having been deceived: His own mother-in-law, Mr. Kaplan said, had followed a Facebook page created by Russian trolls.”

Why are they all so transparently against anything and everything not Republican?

[yardwork]

39. As a woman, I've experienced this over and over and over....