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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:04 PM Nov 2018

Fox News Hosts Dismiss Cohen Bombshell: Why Should We Believe Someone With History of Lying?


by Ken Meyer | Nov 29th, 2018, 12:55 pm

The hosts of Fox News’s Outnumbered dismissed Thursday’s bombshell news about Michael Cohen — arguing he lost his credibility the first time he was caught lying.

Cohen is the center of a new political firestorm after it was revealed that he is cooperating with Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Trump’s longtime former lawyer and fixer also pleaded guilty Thursday morning to lying to Congress in his testimony about President Trump‘s real estate dealings with Moscow.

Democratic strategist Antjuan Seawright was Thursday’s #OneLuckyGuy, and he stressed that the new development highlights Trump’s dishonesty about his connections to Russia.

Fox News host Harris Faulkner interjected to defend the president from Cohen — who she said has a “history of lying.”

“You believe Michael Cohen, who has lied about other things, talking about the president and being a witness?” Faulkner asked Seawright incredulously. “So there are different points that you believe from somebody who has a history of lying?”

Harris did not question whether the president — who has lied more than 6,000 times in his 600 days in office, per the Washington Post fact checker — has a history of lying himself.

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Fox News Hosts Dismiss Cohen Bombshell: Why Should We Believe Someone With History of Lying? (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
Irony can be so ironic, hey? GusBob Nov 2018 #1
Except that Cohen documented everything and recorded his phone calls Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #2
Yes! Corroborating evidence is a thing. Glimmer of Hope Nov 2018 #16
I was wondering if they were going to spin this or completely ignore it. Shell_Seas Nov 2018 #3
Someone needs to remind them that long before Cohen was speaking arthritisR_US Nov 2018 #4
Why Should We Believe Someone With History of Lying? Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #5
Believe liars, like GWC58 Nov 2018 #6
Unbelievable Jarqui Nov 2018 #7
Time to introduce Fox to the Epimenides, or Cretan, paradox muriel_volestrangler Nov 2018 #8
The only appropriate response to that question: "You mean Trump?" RockRaven Nov 2018 #9
What else can trump defenders say....then the audio tapes show up beachbum bob Nov 2018 #10
As I'm now understanding it, The Feds don't believe ANYONE straight away. libdem4life Nov 2018 #11
Yet they will believe Trump. SMH. Arkansas Granny Nov 2018 #12
Cohen lied to protect Trump, now he is telling the truth to protect himself. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #13
Wow they really are... that stupid Blue Owl Nov 2018 #14
Same reason you believe the serial liar, Trump allgood33 Nov 2018 #15
This thesis is based Turbineguy Nov 2018 #17
The courts, prosecutors, etc. catch people lying all of the time...that's why they offer plea ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #18
Hmm mac56 Nov 2018 #19
I counter that with: why do *THEY* believe someone with a history of lying? Initech Nov 2018 #20
Good One. LMAO Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #21

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
2. Except that Cohen documented everything and recorded his phone calls
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:07 PM
Nov 2018

Mueller knew that when he raided Cohen's home last year and seized everything.

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)
3. I was wondering if they were going to spin this or completely ignore it.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:09 PM
Nov 2018

I guess now we have our answer.

arthritisR_US

(7,287 posts)
4. Someone needs to remind them that long before Cohen was speaking
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:09 PM
Nov 2018

to Mueller and his team they had already executed a legal raid on his home and office. They did not need to rely on his spoken words to them as they had documents, mobile recordings and other recordings.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
5. Why Should We Believe Someone With History of Lying?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:09 PM
Nov 2018

Oh I literally could write a book on the irony of Faux News making that statement, but why bother?

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
9. The only appropriate response to that question: "You mean Trump?"
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:14 PM
Nov 2018

That's certainly an awkward question to ask on FOXNews...

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. As I'm now understanding it, The Feds don't believe ANYONE straight away.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:15 PM
Nov 2018

Even if proved to be a liar (The Cretin aside for now), if some of the things they say is corroborated by,say the raid on the other attorney's office today or other of the millions of facts they already have, then the evidence mounts. Until then, one statement does not create a yeah or nay ...just another nail in the coffin.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
13. Cohen lied to protect Trump, now he is telling the truth to protect himself.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:16 PM
Nov 2018

None so blind as those who refuse to see...

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
17. This thesis is based
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:21 PM
Nov 2018

on the idea that trump tells the truth.

You can fabricate anything you want from that thesis.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
18. The courts, prosecutors, etc. catch people lying all of the time...that's why they offer plea ...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:23 PM
Nov 2018

deals and the like, to obtain truthful information from those caught lying while testifying in court, when those caught are brought face to face with actual proof/evidence that they lied under oath by prosecutors.

The evidence, sometimes admitted in court as evidence of such lying could be anything, emails, phone msgs, etc. so sure Fox can claim Cohen lied (he did) but they can't prove (Fox) afterwards that Cohen is lying currently, and prosecutors and law enforcement personnel probably have strong evidence for the actual truth.

This is my opinion, I am not by far a legal guy. Just from history I'm aware of e.g., during the Nixon years, the 'tapes'...

Initech

(100,068 posts)
20. I counter that with: why do *THEY* believe someone with a history of lying?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:37 PM
Nov 2018

Oh wait - he's the liar in chief.

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