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Not to put cart, before; but there's a new line of succession (Original Post) laserhaas Nov 2018 OP
Thoughts? oldtime dfl_er Nov 2018 #1
Nothing is happening before January JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #2
Unless Trump and Pence are removed at more or less the same time wryter2000 Nov 2018 #3
+1 Jarqui Nov 2018 #6
Didn't Ford have to be approved by Congress. Blue_true Nov 2018 #7
+1, my understanding to dems can play hardball here uponit7771 Nov 2018 #9
Yes. The nominee would have to approved by BOTH houses of Congress. madinmaryland Nov 2018 #19
However, the Senate will absolutely not vote to remove with no VP karynnj Dec 2018 #23
Yes, Ford had to be confirmed wryter2000 Nov 2018 #15
So, if a person has credible evidence of crimes hanging over his head. Blue_true Nov 2018 #18
It's an interesting question of what would happen wryter2000 Dec 2018 #20
Yep. After 3 days of public hearings, 9 closed sessions and "the most exhaustive FBI investigation dalton99a Nov 2018 #16
If they start the impeachment process... Shell_Seas Nov 2018 #4
The Line of Succession doesn't change, isn't new. elleng Nov 2018 #5
President Pelosi does have a nice right to it... cynatnite Nov 2018 #8
Sure does. lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #10
It's conceivable if Mueller came out with a report pnwmom Nov 2018 #11
Democrats should then summarily install HRC as speaker. triron Nov 2018 #12
YES - This! Totally Tunsie Dec 2018 #22
Words in Twitter'ville laserhaas Nov 2018 #13
New Vice President would require confirmation by majority in both houses of Congress NotASurfer Nov 2018 #14
Just as meaningless... brooklynite Nov 2018 #17
Already thought it. Laughed until I peed! Greybnk48 Dec 2018 #21

JustAnotherGen

(32,000 posts)
2. Nothing is happening before January
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:52 PM
Nov 2018

And Paul Ryan was the one at that GOP meeting who said 'we don't leak'.

Yeah - right Paul. You're getting out of dodge while the getting is good.

wryter2000

(46,125 posts)
3. Unless Trump and Pence are removed at more or less the same time
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:54 PM
Nov 2018

Trump resigns or is removed. Pence because president and chooses a vice-president. Pence resigns or is removed. Pence's new VP becomes president. That's how Gerald Ford became president, although the Nixon's VP went before Nixon did.

Paul Ryan or Nancy Pelosi are not going to become president unless Trump and Pence go at the same time.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Didn't Ford have to be approved by Congress.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 08:35 PM
Nov 2018

Also, Ford was high on the House hierarchy, so approval was a given.

My guess. If there is information on serious criminality by Trump and Pence, neither one gets to select anyone. Pelosi may become the only logical choice to keep the country from blowing apart. If Pelosi is seated, don't look for ambitious new stuff from her other that backing out the worst actions of Trump and doing an infrastructure bill. She will be largely a placeholder until the 2020 election.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
19. Yes. The nominee would have to approved by BOTH houses of Congress.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 08:50 PM
Nov 2018

It may well happen that one branch approves and the other doesn't, thus leaving the seat unfilled. After what McTurtle did with a SCOTUS nominee, I have no problem with the House and Nancy Pelosi refusing to accept any Republic Party nominee as VP.

karynnj

(59,508 posts)
23. However, the Senate will absolutely not vote to remove with no VP
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:21 PM
Dec 2018

To get Trump actually out, we need a bombshell that moves Republicans to kick him out. They absolute won't if it means a Democrat.

wryter2000

(46,125 posts)
15. Yes, Ford had to be confirmed
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 02:50 PM
Nov 2018

That's why Nixon chose someone non-controversial and generally liked. I know of no rule that says the president or vp can't chose a replacement for the empty seat. You could make an argument that, after the first has been removed, the second doesn't have a chance to chose a replacement before he, too, is removed. I guess that would be like removing both at once and the speaker would become president. What a whole can of worms. But that's what you get when you install a corrupt imbecile as president.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. So, if a person has credible evidence of crimes hanging over his head.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 08:23 PM
Nov 2018

I would think that any replacement he picks will likely get rejected, at least by the House. With a lot of republican Senators up for reelection in 2020, my guess is they would be leery about backing a scumbag. Pelosi may be the only choice since she is likely to only be a placeholder until the election of 2020.

Yes my friend, it is one damned big can of worms. And one that we did not have to deal with, but people who were too pure to vote for Hillary or just did not vote put us here. Deplorables are going to be deplorables, but if the rest had it's stuff together, there was no way they would have elected that monkey and his ass-kisser.

wryter2000

(46,125 posts)
20. It's an interesting question of what would happen
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:46 PM
Dec 2018

You could be right that they'd refuse to confirm someone nominated by an obvious crook/traitor. On the other hand, they might feel it's too dangerous not to have the office filled. And if the crook/traitor picked someone everyone liked and respected, they might go for it.

The question I find most fascinating, though, is what do we do if a president is indicted for a serious crime? I don't believe the Republicans will ever remove this usurper from office. So, what happens if he's indicted for money laundering for the Russians? Can the police go to the White House and frog march him out in handcuffs? I must admit, I'd enjoy that more than anything else.

dalton99a

(81,671 posts)
16. Yep. After 3 days of public hearings, 9 closed sessions and "the most exhaustive FBI investigation
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 03:20 PM
Nov 2018

in U.S. history of a candidate for public office"

The vote was 92-3 in the Senate and 387-35 in the House.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
8. President Pelosi does have a nice right to it...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 08:38 PM
Nov 2018

But, even if they somehow got tRump out and impeached, pence will take over. The repubs will have to hope they can somehow salvage their party. The only way that will happen is if the repubs finally do the right thing and put country first. That'll only happen if hell freezes over and Jesus moves in to redecorate.

pnwmom

(109,021 posts)
11. It's conceivable if Mueller came out with a report
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 08:46 PM
Nov 2018

that heavily damned them both -- to the point where they decided to resign.

But I'm sure they would want a promise from Pelosi to pardon them, as Ford pardoned Nixon.

And at this point, I don't think I'd blame her if she agreed. If we could get rid of both of them at once and replace them with her, we'd be better off.

And later on the State attorneys general could go after Trump, at least.

NotASurfer

(2,156 posts)
14. New Vice President would require confirmation by majority in both houses of Congress
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 09:27 PM
Nov 2018

if memory serves, with the President making the nomination

With Pence and the current Senate it's entirely possible that House and Senate will be unable to confirm the same person , so if Pence is indicted or impeached after Donnie Two Scoops succession matters

Speaker Pelosi better have her contingency plan ready

brooklynite

(94,901 posts)
17. Just as meaningless...
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 03:22 PM
Nov 2018

There is NO possibility that the House Speaker (Ryan or Pelosi) will become President unless you find a way to SIMULTANEOUSLY IMPEACH AND CONVICT Trump and Pence.

Greybnk48

(10,180 posts)
21. Already thought it. Laughed until I peed!
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:58 PM
Dec 2018

We could never in a million years have a more perfect person to be first female Prez, given everything that's gone down.

Pelosi is smart and competent in all areas, and the sound of winger heads exploding would be deafening!

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