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Breaking: Stone pleading the 5th- will not hand over documents (Original Post) malaise Dec 2018 OP
Silly me, what does this actually mean then??? he will be going to jail?? a kennedy Dec 2018 #1
Surprise! Surprise! - Gomer Pyle manor321 Dec 2018 #2
Don't think Senate Dems can take any punitive action being a minority pecosbob Dec 2018 #3
Mueller will want the same info. Hope Stone likes jail. dem4decades Dec 2018 #4
Trump on taking the 5th Amendment Jarqui Dec 2018 #5
In other words... N_E_1 for Tennis Dec 2018 #6
Didn't Trump say something about people who take the Fifth? gratuitous Dec 2018 #7
Thread winner malaise Dec 2018 #9
Too bad he doesn't walk into a train going 100 mph. LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #8
Here's what I think he can and can't do onenote Dec 2018 #10
The House Committee will demand that in the new year malaise Dec 2018 #11
That's all right. They already have him for lying. Hassler Dec 2018 #12
Stone doesn't get that privilege in front of a grand jury.... beachbum bob Dec 2018 #13
I thought only the mob takes the 5th? NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #14
Lock him up!! blueinredohio Dec 2018 #15

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
3. Don't think Senate Dems can take any punitive action being a minority
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 05:57 PM
Dec 2018

but the House can definitely revisit this in January. Many of the Senate GOP are complicit, so they will take no action.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,722 posts)
6. In other words...
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:00 PM
Dec 2018

I can’t talk about it cuz I’ll probably implicate myself for a crime that I probably committed and I’m guilty as shit but I don’t want you to find out.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. Didn't Trump say something about people who take the Fifth?
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:01 PM
Dec 2018

Why yes, yes he did:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/07/politics/donald-trump-fifth-amendment-supreme-court/index.html

"If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment," Trump said as a candidate in 2016, complaining about aides to his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, who faced inquires over the use of a private email service when she was secretary of state. "The mob takes the Fifth," Trump declared.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
10. Here's what I think he can and can't do
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:10 PM
Dec 2018

I don't think he can cite the Fifth Amendment as the basis for refusing to appear when subpoenaed -- if he wants to invoke the Fifth he has to do it question by question. So, in theory, the Committee could insist on his complying with a subpoena to appear and give testimony and charge him with contempt if refuses to appear.

Whether he can use the Fifth Amendment as a shield against producing documents is a more complicated question. Sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes the answer is no.

And he could be offered immunity from prosecution by the committee and then forced to testify (again with contempt as the hammer).

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. I thought only the mob takes the 5th?
Tue Dec 4, 2018, 06:29 PM
Dec 2018

and, Democrats should force Stone to come before them and physically invoke the 5th on live TV

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