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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomewhere in Mueller's Office there's a corkboard
The feds have them in every mob movie and I'm sure there's one here. I would love to see it. On that board, there's a timeline, there's an array of pictures with strings linking them together, there are index cards under the pictures. Pictures of Michael Cohen, Flynn, Manafort, Gates, Popodapolus, a bunch of Russians, Van der Zwaan, Trump Jr. and Individual 1 along with who knows who else. It's the only way to give context and organization to a mass of evidence. We forget how things line up. We forget the events as they happened as time passes and information floods in. Putting the big board together is the only way everything makes sense-and that's for the prosecutors who have access to stuff we can only guess at. Here's the thing, the information that Flynn plead guilty to was prepared on November 30, 2017. That means he was talking and giving up information to Mueller's team long before that-and has been ever since. He committed serious offenses that jeopardized the security of the country. He's not skating with probation because Mueller likes him. We'll find out what he's turned over and how he's advanced the investigation. It sucks not knowing, but it has to be big and it has to be substantial and it has to implicate people higher on the food chain. Individuals whose interest is not the national interest-if it was this stuff never would have happened and we wouldn't be hearing the constant drum beat of witch hunt. I want to see that corkboard.
Flynn Timeline
10 December 2015
Michael Flynn is seated next to Vladimir Putin at a dinner in Moscow to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Kremlin-linked English-language news service RT. I didnt even really talk to him, Flynn later said. He was paid $45,000 for the appearance.
February 2016
Flynn, a former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, joins the Trump presidential campaign as an adviser on national security issues, lending heft to the insurgent candidates thin roster of aides
April 2016
In the final seven months of the presidential campaign, Flynn and other aides will hold 18 phone and email conversations with Russian operatives, Reuters reports.
Summer 2016
US spies observe Russian conversations about whether and how to use the campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and Flynn to their advantage.
19 September 2016
Flynn meets Turkish contacts in New York and discusses US policy on the Islamic cleric Fethullah Gülen, a green card holder residing in Pennsylvania. Flynn was reportedly paid $530,000 to consult for a Turkish businessman in a deal directed by the Turkish government. Flynn does not disclose his Turkish contracts until after his resignation from office, with prosecutors closing in.
18 November 2016
Trump names Flynn national security adviser.
December 2016
Flynn holds conversations about US sanctions on Russia with ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Vice-President Mike Pence will later say Flynn misled him as to the nature of the talks.
Flynn also meets Turkish contacts in New York, the Wall Street Journal reports. The special counsel is investigating Flynn for his alleged role in a deal to somehow turn Gülen over to Ankara in exchange for $15m.
29 December 2016
Flynn speaks with Kislyak on the phone five times, on the day the Obama administration retaliates for Russian tampering in the 2016 election by expelling 35 Russian diplomats and announcing new sanctions against Russian intelligence services and agencies involved in hacking.
15 January 2017
Pence goes on TV and says Flynn and Kislyak did not discuss anything having to do with the United States decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia.
On campaign contacts with Russians who wanted to meddle, Pence says: Well, of course not. I think to suggest that is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy.
24 January 2017
Flynn is interviewed by the FBI about his Russia contacts. He later admits to telling multiple lies in the interview, including about conversations he had with Kislyak about US sanctions on Russia and about a United Nations resolution condemning Israel.
26 January 2017
The acting attorney general, Sally Yates, warns the White House about Flynn and his conversations with Russian operatives.
After the inauguration
The FBI is asked to review Turkeys extradition request for Gülen.
13 February 2017
Flynn resigns.
14 February 2017
The FBI director, James Comey, will later say Trump told him of Flynn: I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.
16 February 2017
Trump is asked at a news conference whether you are aware that anyone who advised your campaign had contacts with Russia during the course of the election? The ensuing exchange is recorded in a White House transcript:
Trump: Well, I told you, Gen Flynn obviously was dealing. So thats one person. But he was dealing as he should have been
Questioner: During the election?
Trump: No, no, nobody that I know of.
Questioner: So youre not aware of any contacts during the course of the election?
Trump: Look, look, how many times do I have to answer this question?
Questioner: Can you just say yes or no on it?
Trump: Russia is a ruse. Yeah, I know you have to get up and ask a question, so important. Russia is a ruse. I have nothing to do with Russia, havent made a phone call to Russia in years. Dont speak to people from Russia. Not that I wouldnt, I just have nobody to speak to I have nothing to do with Russia. To the best of my knowledge, no person that I deal with does.
March 2017
Flynn registers as a foreign agent.
1 December 2017
Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI and enters a deal to cooperate with Mueller.
4 December 2018
Mueller recommends no prison time for Flynn citing his substantial assistance to the Trump-Russia investigation and other criminal inquiries.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/04/michael-flynn-timeline-former-national-security-adviser-trump
Laxman
(2,419 posts)on every wall. Here's a set of diagrams from over a year ago. God only knows what they would look like updated to what we know today, let alone with what Mueller knows.....https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
fierywoman
(7,683 posts)Maeve
(42,281 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)edbermac
(15,938 posts)Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)You know somebody in Mueller's office is in charge of the board. Only, Trump's probably not labeled as "The Boss" on it. Probably has Putin at the top. (you know it's an authentic depiction of a real office because only somebody working for the government would re-use the post-it by crossing out Capo and writing in Boss instead of using a new one!)
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)Certainly the last date should be 4 December 2018
TexasTowelie
(112,146 posts)Pobeka
(4,999 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,146 posts)Mueller's recommendation for sentencing was on Dec. 4, 2018, instead of Dec. 4, 2017.