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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:56 AM Dec 2018

Mueller trolled Trump way harder than you realized, with his redacted file on Flynn:








1/ Whether it was Mueller's goal or not, by including all of the redacted details of Flynn's cooperation in a court filing, Mueller has now ensured that they will one day become public. There is nothing that Whitaker or Trump can do to stop it.

2/ A sentencing memo is a "judicial document," which is a legal term of art for a court filing for which there is a public right of access and a First Amendment press right of access. The court can keep the details sealed while investigations are ongoing but will unseal once done

3/ And now that it's in the judiciary's files, it is outside of Trump's and Whitaker's control.
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Mueller trolled Trump way harder than you realized, with his redacted file on Flynn: (Original Post) DetlefK Dec 2018 OP
So all the information in Mueller's filings on Flynn will become public? Botany Dec 2018 #1
and the sweet irony is for the orange asshole to keep the investigation going as long as possible... Javaman Dec 2018 #18
Deal Traildogbob Dec 2018 #35
Mueller probably has the same sort of set up . Botany Dec 2018 #38
I fear that none of these traitors MontanaMama Dec 2018 #45
The Art of the Plea Deal alterfurz Dec 2018 #43
The Hammer Racerdog1 Dec 2018 #2
Now for an appropriate musical interlude: volstork Dec 2018 #7
Thanks! Enjoyed that immensely. hostalover Dec 2018 #27
Mueller isn't forking around MagickMuffin Dec 2018 #3
Republicans seem to forget he is a republican Victor_c3 Dec 2018 #12
Wait, I thought tRump said he was one of those "angry democrats" BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #36
In complete opposite of all precedent where a member of the opposing party is appointed to avoid TeamPooka Dec 2018 #37
Excellent point! kentuck Dec 2018 #4
Kick dalton99a Dec 2018 #5
Trump is not too big to fail. Despite what he would have you believe. PubliusEnigma Dec 2018 #6
A few more buckets of KFC and he could become too big to fall. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #9
As a spheroid, he could still go over Niagara Falls. n/t Harker Dec 2018 #30
They've been cleaning up the Niagara River in recent decades. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #44
I hope to see the falls soon. Harker Dec 2018 #46
I grew up there; it's a comfortable and familiar place to me. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #47
I hope the opportunity comes to you. n/t Harker Dec 2018 #49
Mueller is playing 4D chess, and Trump is the pawn. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #8
The way I heard it: Danascot Dec 2018 #14
LOL! lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #19
... Danascot Dec 2018 #23
Yep. He's boasted that he's "got the BEST people!" calimary Dec 2018 #16
I often wonder about how Mueller MontanaMama Dec 2018 #10
Me, too. I'd love to have a post-mortem or a documentary of life within the OSC erronis Dec 2018 #11
For Mueller, I believe he is handling this well in his personal life thbobby Dec 2018 #13
as posted yesterday: niyad Dec 2018 #15
There's THAT... MontanaMama Dec 2018 #17
Link not visible - what's it about? lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #20
this is not working for you? niyad Dec 2018 #21
Correct. Is there any text you can copy/paste? lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #22
it is working here. niyad Dec 2018 #24
Ah - maybe that's Trump's plan - commit so many crimes they can't keep up. lagomorph777 Dec 2018 #25
that is what Lawrence said night before last. niyad Dec 2018 #26
That's how he's lived his entire life. n/t Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #31
Wonder if they will make a movie out of this? LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #33
Sure would be interesting! Talitha Dec 2018 #39
A movie about the saving of American Democracy Trump Must Go Dec 2018 #41
Sweet. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #28
So glad Mueller understands strategy as well as legal content. lindysalsagal Dec 2018 #29
K&R Scurrilous Dec 2018 #32
An investigator "trolling" his subjects isn't going to help perceptions that this isn't serious. nt MadDAsHell Dec 2018 #34
Meanwhile, the hand no one was watching started tidying up the Manhattan lobbying firms pecosbob Dec 2018 #40
Which means Red Don is trying to squash whatever is coming out. This is sick uponit7771 Dec 2018 #42
Kick Late Knight Dec 2018 #48

Botany

(76,419 posts)
1. So all the information in Mueller's filings on Flynn will become public?
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:59 AM
Dec 2018

And Donny, Whitaker, and Fox News can't stop that from happening?

Javaman

(65,124 posts)
18. and the sweet irony is for the orange asshole to keep the investigation going as long as possible...
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 11:55 AM
Dec 2018

to prevent that info from coming out. LOL

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
35. Deal
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:27 PM
Dec 2018

I believe Mueller is so much better at "The Art of the Deal". And I bet he never read the book.

Botany

(76,419 posts)
38. Mueller probably has the same sort of set up .
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:29 PM
Dec 2018

.. for the filings on Cohen and Manafort this Friday.

No other way to call this as crimes, treason, and a coup. Let the GOP defend that. Sadly Fox News and right wing hate talk has poisoned 30 odd % of America so that group will see this as an example of Hillary, Obama, and the deep state's evil empire.

MontanaMama

(24,616 posts)
45. I fear that none of these traitors
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 02:18 PM
Dec 2018

will do any jail time. If Flynn isn't going to prison then who of the remaining traitorous assholes will? I'm skeptical that Flynn gave up all he did and all he knows.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
2. The Hammer
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:05 AM
Dec 2018

Whether they know what was redacted through asshole Whittaker or not. The hammer is going to drop on this corrupt administration. Whether it is Mueller or Putin, the orange anus is cornered. No fucking way out.

MagickMuffin

(18,081 posts)
3. Mueller isn't forking around
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:07 AM
Dec 2018

He cares about our democracy. I wish I could say the same for his party.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
12. Republicans seem to forget he is a republican
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:48 AM
Dec 2018

I like to remind republicans I talk to of that point.

Mueller is a republican, appointed by a republican, to investigate another republican.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
37. In complete opposite of all precedent where a member of the opposing party is appointed to avoid
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 09:12 PM
Dec 2018

the appearance of favoritism, ala Ken Starr and Bill Clinton.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
44. They've been cleaning up the Niagara River in recent decades.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:36 AM
Dec 2018

I'd hate to see a big orange scum stain on it.

Harker

(17,430 posts)
46. I hope to see the falls soon.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 05:55 PM
Dec 2018

It's been over 50 years. Yes, it would be a shame to sully the river.

Danascot

(5,163 posts)
14. The way I heard it:
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 11:38 AM
Dec 2018

Mueller is playing 4D chess and Trump is busy trying to shove checkers up his nose.

calimary

(89,047 posts)
16. Yep. He's boasted that he's "got the BEST people!"
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 11:38 AM
Dec 2018

And that’s correct - but not in the way he’s imagined.

He’s currently got the best people - right on his ass. And closing in FAST.




Actually, WE’VE got the best people, too, donald. And they’re working for ALL OF US, NOT you.

MontanaMama

(24,616 posts)
10. I often wonder about how Mueller
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:15 AM
Dec 2018

is pacing himself through this mess. What are staff meetings like for his team? What does he do decompress? What are evening meals with his wife like? Does he sleep well? Does he know the future of our nation rests on his shoulders? He must...

erronis

(22,677 posts)
11. Me, too. I'd love to have a post-mortem or a documentary of life within the OSC
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:38 AM
Dec 2018

investigations. From the outside it seems that they are extremely well orchestrated. Professionals, not slime-balls like their targets.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
13. For Mueller, I believe he is handling this well in his personal life
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 11:19 AM
Dec 2018

Mueller served with distinction in Vietnam. After being a hero in such an encounter, he is not sweating his role in the trump investigation.

Now trump, the draft dodger and intrepid fighter of STD's his promiscuous life exposed him to, is a coward at heart and has always been bailed out of trouble. I wonder how trump is pacing himself. If his tiny handed tweets are any indication, not too well.

niyad

(129,607 posts)
24. it is working here.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 12:18 PM
Dec 2018

picture of Mueller in a half facepalm, saying "can trump stop breaking the law for one fucking second so I can wrap this shit up?

Talitha

(7,690 posts)
39. Sure would be interesting!
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:01 PM
Dec 2018

But I don't see how they could fit it all into a movie.
Maybe a mega-documentary series by Ken Burns.
Now THAT would be worth watching!

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
34. An investigator "trolling" his subjects isn't going to help perceptions that this isn't serious. nt
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 08:18 PM
Dec 2018

pecosbob

(8,311 posts)
40. Meanwhile, the hand no one was watching started tidying up the Manhattan lobbying firms
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 10:03 PM
Dec 2018

that illegally lobbied for the Ukraine...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142217021

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