Dow Futures Down Over Four Hundred Points

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[Johnny2X2X]

1. Trump Slump

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/its-the-worst-time-in-decades-to-make-money-in-the-markets/ar-BBQxPmZ

There is nowhere to hide from the Trump Slump.

The fact is, 2017's economy was still Obama's mostly, just like W owned the 2009 economy. Trump's tax rates went into effect on January 2nd of 2018, since then it's been the worst year for investors since 1972.

[YessirAtsaFact]

2. Dow futures aren't a reliable prediction of the market

Talk to me at 10:00 o’clock

[edhopper]

5. 9:50

down 450 pts.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Markets

Markets fear a slowing economy, rising interest rates, and a trade war.

[YessirAtsaFact]

8. Looks like they were right this time

It’ll be interesting to see how the day goes from here.

We could slide further downhill or have a rebound when big investors see bargains.

[edhopper]

9. yep

but it looks like Trump will get a flat or negative year in the Market.

and Tarrif Man is doing all he can to wreck the Economy.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. If the economy is indeed slowing and a trade war lurks what's the case for equities?

[Iliyah]

3. A strong working middle class normally is the

ticket to a strong economy. The middle class - spending and living comfortably in doing so secures a healthy democracy alongwith a healthy bipartisan government which helps protect the country's people.

The USA has lost that edge.

[riversedge]

4. That bear can have my pennies and nickles.

[kentuck]

7. I don't usually follow the stocks but...

.. don't the recent fluctuations in the market seem a bit unusual?

[edhopper]

10. They are due to

Trump policies. Tarrifs, trade wars, etc..

[Roland99]

11. Even with this good news, markets are still in the tank!

ISM services index registers second-strongest reading in 13 years
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ism-service-index-registers-second-strongest-reading-in-13-years-2018-12-06?mod=bnbh

The numbers: The Institute for Supply Management said Thursday that its non-manufacturing index in November rose to a seasonally adjusted 60.7%, up from 60.3% in October and the second-strongest reading in 13 years.

Economists polled by MarketWatch expected a reading of 59.1%. Any reading above 50% indicates improving conditions.

[Roland99]

12. Although....this ain't good.

Factory orders fall 2.1% in October, third drop in 4 months
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/factory-orders-fall-21-in-october-third-drop-in-4-months-2018-12-06

[ProfessorGAC]

14. At Least A Few Industries In Which I've Got Experience. . .

. . .see this 4th quarter fall in orders as calendar year companies shed inventory to reduce dollars on the asset side and liabilities on the other side of the sheet.

This filters into the SCF (Statement of Cash Flow) and creates a more favorable cash position.

Then the orders pick back up after the first of the year. Typically we've seen that starting in September, so we'd be 3 months already, and the article title says 4. Not sure, absent a full dataset, whether that 4th month is meaningful or not.

Not saying it is NOT bad. Just not sure it proves much just yet.

[safeinOhio]

15. So, big business took all those tax cuts

and invested in stock buy backs? That money, that was suppose to trickle down, is gone. Everyone lost on those tax cuts.