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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 06:28 PM Dec 2018

'Lobbyists Are Here. Goldman Sachs Is Here. Where's Labor? Activists?' Tlaib and Ocasio-Cortez

'Lobbyists Are Here. Goldman Sachs Is Here. Where's Labor? Activists?' Tlaib and Ocasio-Cortez Pull Back Curtain on Corporate-Sponsored Freshman Orientation

From the article:

Pulling back the curtain on the ostensibly "bipartisan" orientation for newly elected members of Congress at Harvard's Kennedy School in Boston, Reps.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) informed the public through live social media updates on Thursday that—contrary to the ideologically neutral advertising—the private conference featured a heavy dose of speeches by corporate CEOs and completely shut out organized labor and members of the progressive community.

"Our 'bipartisan' congressional orientation is co-hosted by a corporate lobbyist group," Ocasio-Cortez noted, likely referring to the Koch-funded American Enterprise Institute, which is co-sponsoring the event. "Other members have quietly expressed to me their concern that this wasn't told to us in advance. Lobbyists are here. Goldman Sachs is here. Where's labor? Activists? Frontline community leaders?"


To read more:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/12/06/lobbyists-are-here-goldman-sachs-here-wheres-labor-activists-tlaib-and-ocasio-cortez?cd-

One co-sponsor is a Koch Brothers front group disguised as a research institute.

And labor leaders are missing?
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'Lobbyists Are Here. Goldman Sachs Is Here. Where's Labor? Activists?' Tlaib and Ocasio-Cortez (Original Post) guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP
We got lucky to get these 2 wonderful women. Autumn Dec 2018 #1
Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2
+1 lilactime Dec 2018 #5
Was just about to say that too. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2018 #9
Congress allow themselves to insider trade, that's why they want committees. Leave millionaires. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #3
And the lobbyists are controlling the debate. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #4
lobbyists write the bills Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #22
A good addition to this thread. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24
we need balance Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #25
Why did it take a junior member of Congress Baitball Blogger Dec 2018 #6
It is taken for granted, perhaps, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7
That's an excellent question.. whathehell Dec 2018 #26
At freshman orientation? KelleyKramer Dec 2018 #32
Ruh Roh shadowmayor Dec 2018 #8
I am glad that they are speaking out. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10
The kids are alright. They don't fall for the bullshit and they don't take no bullshit. Autumn Dec 2018 #11
which is why we need more like her crazycatlady Dec 2018 #31
Here's a new clip, soldado... pecosbob Dec 2018 #12
Is there a link? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #13
Poor use of words...a clip as in more ammo for her fight... pecosbob Dec 2018 #16
I understand. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19
Members should wear patches of their corporate sponsors hibbing Dec 2018 #14
The jackets would need to be as large as circus tents. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #17
AOC Made an Excellent Point dlk Dec 2018 #15
Indeed. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #18
Is this the first time the public is learning of this? mysteryowl Dec 2018 #20
they are out in the cold, where they have always been Takket Dec 2018 #21
This highlights one of Bernie Saunders main messages mjvpi Dec 2018 #23
Taking Big Money out of the equation is one part of the issue. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #29
Oh good, now she will learn all about JNelson6563 Dec 2018 #27
One hopes that this will change. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #28
Challenges JNelson6563 Dec 2018 #30

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
3. Congress allow themselves to insider trade, that's why they want committees. Leave millionaires.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 06:41 PM
Dec 2018

.

That's something else which needs to be addressed, the gaming of the stocks by congress critters.

If it's illegal for regular folks and financial types from making money using Non-Public Material Information, the very people who game the laws while in committee should be held to the same standards.

.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
22. lobbyists write the bills
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:41 PM
Dec 2018

'Way back, I saw an interview with someone that many here will remember -- Hollings. He said one of the reasons he left is because they don't do anything any more except raise money and vote on bills that lobbyists write.

Found it:


But does access mean his vote? "Not only the vote. Wait a minute, it's all those K Street lawyers now and lobbyists and interests making up the legislation, and they work with staffs and everything else. The bills, and the special interests overwhelm us with submitted legislation," says Hollings.

"Communications, defense, you got them all – farms, agriculture people and everything else like that … They get their piece of the pie. That's our problem. Today, you can't find the real interests of the country."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parting-shots-from-fritz-hollings/



OT for this subject, but a juicy part of that interview:

"What are you saying? That all of these folks that keep voting Republican are racist," asks Wallace.

"Not quite. They are conservative. They honestly don't believe in government, like we do in the Democratic Party," says Hollings, laughing.

"We believe in feeding the hungry, and housing the homeless, and educating the uninformed and everything else like that. They believe in private education, a privatized Social Security, privatized energy policy -- privatize, privatize. They don't believe in 'We the people' in order to form a more perfect union."

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
24. A good addition to this thread.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:31 PM
Dec 2018

Like ALEC, the conservative group that writes "model legislation" for GOP politicians.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
25. we need balance
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:35 PM
Dec 2018

We need enough turn-over so that there are fresh, enthusiastic members of Congress, untainted by corporate lobbyists, in balance with experienced members who know how to get things done. I don't know how to achieve that balance or where it lies.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. It is taken for granted, perhaps,
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 07:15 PM
Dec 2018

that the lobbyists who infest Washington will control the debate.

And in a money driven political system, this should be no surprise.

Sad? Yes.

Surprising? NO.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. I am glad that they are speaking out.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:11 PM
Dec 2018

Money politics is the main issue because the money controls the dialogue.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
14. Members should wear patches of their corporate sponsors
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:16 PM
Dec 2018

Just like NASCAR, and then in interviews thank their sponsors for writing their legislation for them.

Peace

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
17. The jackets would need to be as large as circus tents.
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:18 PM
Dec 2018

To make the patches legible.

Peace to you also.

dlk

(11,561 posts)
15. AOC Made an Excellent Point
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:16 PM
Dec 2018

Good for her--shining for a light on this event. Corporations wield far too much power in DC and a change is long past due.

mysteryowl

(7,383 posts)
20. Is this the first time the public is learning of this?
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:00 PM
Dec 2018

Unbelievable it has not been told to us before.

Thank you AOC! Keep it up!!!

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
23. This highlights one of Bernie Saunders main messages
Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:45 PM
Dec 2018

The voice that is given to big money needs to be challenged by the Democratic leadership. Not just the freshmen. The Progrssive Caucus will welcome these new voices. Let’s hope they get assignments the gives their voices clout.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
29. Taking Big Money out of the equation is one part of the issue.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:56 PM
Dec 2018

But given that politicians are constantly raising money, only public financing can help.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
27. Oh good, now she will learn all about
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:45 PM
Dec 2018

which lobbying groups have resources and which don't. Labor for instance. Labor ain't what it used to be. Sure you've got big union presence in pockets around the US but it's so diminished as to be unrecognizable from what people think it is.

When you have lots of money you can be everywhere at once. Seems this will be another lesson she will learn.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
30. Challenges
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 07:07 PM
Dec 2018

A bit tough in "right to work" states, which are increasing in numbers. Why join a union and pay dues when you can get the same deal by not joining?

The GOP has been tirelessly working on making this the case in all 50 states. It's working. Labor is on the decline (has been for decades).

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