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JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:16 PM Aug 2012

If the mission to kill Bin Laden had failed....

The country wouldn't have been blaming the Navy Seals for sheer incompetence. Even if the mission succeeded and we lost a soldier- even the German Shepherd- Republicans would have put the blame squarely on the head of the Commander In Chief, and perhaps rightly so.

Now they're resurrecting the "Obama didn't do it" to take away one of the crowning achievements of this administration shortly before the election. Needless to say, the timing isn't a coincidence and
it's the height of dishonesty that they're pretending there was no risk on the president's part in approving the mission his predecessor was afraid to do.

President Obama rolled the dice and put his faith in the military for a mission that could have easily ended his presidency in November. That he didn't come up snake eyes and get our soldiers killed is what really upsets these "patriots".


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If the mission to kill Bin Laden had failed.... (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 OP
LOL! Politicalboi Aug 2012 #1
Ditto malaise Aug 2012 #2
If the mission failed, Ryan, Rush, Mitt, Boehner, and a thousand others would be talking 2on2u Aug 2012 #3
imagine if Obama put on a flight suit and landed on a carrier.... spanone Aug 2012 #4
It would have been Jimmy Carter redux no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #5
Yep. And it would have drastically reduced Obama's reelection chances. Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #14
If the mission failed, would we ever have even known about it? nt Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #6
That's actually an interesting point. But I think it would have been leaked one way or another. Proles Aug 2012 #7
Theres already a book out on it? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #9
Haha, it never does. It usually amazes me how 200+ page books can be churned out Proles Aug 2012 #16
That must have a lot of detail. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #20
Probably depends on how bad the failure was shawn703 Aug 2012 #10
Ohh.YEAH--we'd have known it. lastlib Aug 2012 #13
" If the mission to kill Bin Laden had failed...." Volaris Aug 2012 #8
supremely hilarious image there - had to laugh tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #11
Obama is an honorable leader. That annoys and infuriates the other WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #12
Don't worry RoccoRyg Aug 2012 #15
The soldiers came through on their commander in chief's orders... Historic NY Aug 2012 #17
Where were these guys when Bush announced he captured Saddam? rocktivity Aug 2012 #18
OMG!! BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #19
According to GOP logic -- LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2012 #21
Yup thats about it. Historic NY Aug 2012 #22
+1000 ellisonz Aug 2012 #23
I love this graphic!!! JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #24
Thankfully the mission didn't fail davidpdx Aug 2012 #25
The mission did fail. Lasher Aug 2012 #26
You are 100% right. But what are the odds that the re-election folks won't use that? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #27
 

2on2u

(1,843 posts)
3. If the mission failed, Ryan, Rush, Mitt, Boehner, and a thousand others would be talking
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:32 PM
Aug 2012

about it 24/7, giving the credit for the failure to the president and spewing how the president put America in more danger with his actions. These people crack me up.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
5. It would have been Jimmy Carter redux
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:39 PM
Aug 2012

with the helicoptors crashing in the desert en route to rescue the hostages and Carter getting the blame.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
14. Yep. And it would have drastically reduced Obama's reelection chances.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:54 PM
Aug 2012

Bungling, incompetent, ignoring military advice, naive, arrogant, etc. It would have never ended.

And that's why it was such a courageous and gutsy call.

Proles

(466 posts)
7. That's actually an interesting point. But I think it would have been leaked one way or another.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:03 PM
Aug 2012

I read the book detailing the plan to get Osama, and I think they had a number of contingency plans concerning what would have happened if it failed.

One thing is for certain, if information regarding a failed strike to get Osama resulting in the loss of SEALS leaked to the American public, we wouldn't ever hear the end of it.

It'd be a hard blow against Obama's re-election chances.

Proles

(466 posts)
16. Haha, it never does. It usually amazes me how 200+ page books can be churned out
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:10 PM
Aug 2012

not long after a specific event happens.

I forget the name of the book, but it was actually pretty good, and offered plenty of insights into getting Osama Bin Laden. It really showed that the decision to take out Osama was not as simple as lots of republicans make it out to be, and that Obama truly made a gutsy decision in doing so.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
20. That must have a lot of detail.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:42 PM
Aug 2012

Surprised as well that the information wasn't considered classified for them to be able to release it.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
10. Probably depends on how bad the failure was
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:28 PM
Aug 2012

If Pakistan would have responded to us invading their airspace and it became Seals versus Pakistani military, I think it would have come out.

lastlib

(23,222 posts)
13. Ohh.YEAH--we'd have known it.
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:49 PM
Aug 2012

al-Qaeda would've been crowing non-stop at the top of their lungs, Pakistan would be screaming to high heaven about the "violation of sovereignty," every anti-US government in the world would be trumpeting it--yeah we'd have known about it, and the Repukes would never let it die, rubbing the Dems' noses in it every chance they could create.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
8. " If the mission to kill Bin Laden had failed...."
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:12 PM
Aug 2012

You can almost bet that a Republican Administration would have fucked up the planning/execution of said mission, based on the fact that that's how it went down in Tora Bora, under His Majesty the Shrub.

As an Electorate, the general mass of the American People might be rock stupid, but in this case, they know full well who issued the kill order (and took the political risk that came with it) and who didn't. McConnell and his cadre of sad clowns can cry all they want. It won't do them ANY good, and any Republican dumb enough to bring it up in a debate is going to find themselves on the wrong end of an ass-whooping stick.

And yeah, that picture is awesome.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
12. Obama is an honorable leader. That annoys and infuriates the other
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:36 PM
Aug 2012

party which is so totally lacking in same.

The fact that a handful of Seals would throw their Commander-in-Chief under the bus using baseless charges, reflects so poorly on their personal integrity. It's very shameful and sullies the uniform they wore.

But knowing Barack Obama, he probably forgives them.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
17. The soldiers came through on their commander in chief's orders...
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:13 PM
Aug 2012

from the top down to the bottom up they perform - as Patton would say magnificently/

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
18. Where were these guys when Bush announced he captured Saddam?
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:17 PM
Aug 2012

Did that offend them? Or this?



The success of the mission is Obama's military/foreign policy trump card, so Mitt the Rethugs are trying to take it off the table. Who do they're think they're kidding?


rocktivity

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
24. I love this graphic!!!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:40 AM
Aug 2012

I'm saving it for all posterity... or until I have to send it to a Teabag friend.
Whichever happens first.

Thanx!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. Thankfully the mission didn't fail
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:07 AM
Aug 2012

But if it had, I think Obama would have taken a ton of heat for it. It was a gamble for sure and whether you agree with the decision or not, it shows he has the guts to take action. I don't even want to think about what would have happened if the mission had not gone the way it did.

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