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The house MUST impeach even if the Senate does not. (Original Post) Tavarious Jackson Dec 2018 OP
Senate does not impeach. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #1
Disagree. The House must wait until Mueller's investigation is complete, and conduct investigations Tarheel_Dem Dec 2018 #2
Impeachment is political masturbation. crazytown Dec 2018 #3
I hope not... safeinOhio Dec 2018 #4
A felony would fit the "high crimes" part of Art. II Sec. 4 linuxuser3 Dec 2018 #5
I agree duforsure Dec 2018 #6
Well, Tavarious, have you forgotten that even most Hortensis Dec 2018 #7
Impeachment would increase Republican votes Cicada Dec 2018 #8

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
1. Senate does not impeach.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 04:11 AM
Dec 2018

They can convict with a 2/3 majority vote. Notice that the current Senate is a bit more than 50% Republican.

You can do the math, I'm sure.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
2. Disagree. The House must wait until Mueller's investigation is complete, and conduct investigations
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 05:24 AM
Dec 2018

to determine if impeachment is required. Trump may resign before that happens.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. Impeachment is political masturbation.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 05:39 AM
Dec 2018

Impeachment (now) is a quick dirty substitute for the lengthy, extensive House investigations necessary to fully expose the rotten core of this Administration.

safeinOhio

(32,676 posts)
4. I hope not...
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 05:46 AM
Dec 2018

I'd much rather see him resign in disgrace. That way we could just keep all those billions Mexico is going to give us for the wall.

linuxuser3

(139 posts)
5. A felony would fit the "high crimes" part of Art. II Sec. 4
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:21 AM
Dec 2018

Question is, would the McTurtle controlled Senate give a damn if the House brought charges against him

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. I agree
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:29 AM
Dec 2018

But the Senators refusals to impeach will do nothing but get themselves removed from office, and insure even more the Senate will be Democrat controlled next election for sure. Enough public pressure will ruin some of them for future higher office runs also , so there will be some having to support it , or face enormous backlash from doing nothing to a felon in the oval office being allowed to remain. Mitch can refuse to do anything, but some gop senators can pressure Mitch by telling him they'll switch to give the Democrats the power and control, and lose his job if he refuses to go along with them. Enough members will be doing just this if Mitch refuses , and he'll be forced to, or lose his position eventually. They also know the longer it goes on the more likely some of them could be exposed too.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Well, Tavarious, have you forgotten that even most
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:45 AM
Dec 2018

Democrats don't want to hear it at this point and wish it'd go away? What does it mean that most Democrats have turned off and haven't turned on yet, that they agree with many on the right in wanting a return to decency and cooperation in government?

To me it means that impeachment as an ineffectual moral statement, not backed by a majority of the people, would not be seen by far too many as a moral statement. It'd be seen as Democrats being just as bad as Republicans and a pox on all of us.

We can and do make moral statements without the use of impeachment, and I believe a growing number of voters made moral statements in the midterm elections as well.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
8. Impeachment would increase Republican votes
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:58 AM
Dec 2018

We should avoid acts which will motivate trump supporters to vote. We need trump supporters to go to sleep. And stay asleep in 2020 elections. We need to just vote trump out of office. That’s the best approach. Forget impeachment. Forget prosecution. Until he’s out of office we should not poke a stick into the trump supporter hornets nest.

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