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eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts) Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:53 PM Dec 2018

Suppose we grant that it doesn't technically fit the definition of "treason" ...

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

So now ... does a cybercrime count as 'force' ?

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Suppose we grant that it doesn't technically fit the definition of "treason" ... (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Dec 2018 OP

I am going to guess three things marylandblue Dec 2018 #1

If Russians blew up a post office or a place where people vote Jarqui Dec 2018 #2

My take. triron Dec 2018 #5

"to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law..." Were the sanctions legislated? blitzen Dec 2018 #3

But Why Would We Me. Dec 2018 #4

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)

1. I am going to guess three things

Reply to eppur_se_muova (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:05 AM

Dec 2018

1) That's a novel legal theory that has never been tested.
2) It probably won't work.
3) Mueller won't go there when he has plenty of other crimes that easy to prove and are frequently used.

Jarqui

(10,124 posts)

2. If Russians blew up a post office or a place where people vote

Reply to eppur_se_muova (Original post)

Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:07 AM

Dec 2018

Many might regard that as an act of terrorism

if the Russians blew up a bunch of them, that's getting to where it could be construed as an act of war.

We don't have body bags or piles of rubble but the Russians figuratively blew up the 2016 election pretty good. And one might argue it was an underhanded way of overthrowing or conspiring to overthrow the US government (or an act of war) by installing their Pee Pee Kompromat puppet as president.