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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:49 AM Dec 2018

Study: Only two-thirds of Millennials fully believe the Earth is round

https//www.sfgate.com/news/article/Millennials-flat-earth-theory-two-thirds-study-12813321.php



According to a study conducted by British firm YouGov, only two-thirds of Millennials fully believe that the Earth is round.

The survey asked 8,215 American Millennials the question, "Do you believe that the world is round or flat," then offered them the following set of answers:

- I have always believed the world is round

- I always thought the world is round, but more recently I am skeptical/have doubts

- I always thought the world is flat, but more recently I am skeptical/have doubts

- I have always believed the world is flat

- Other/Not sure

66 percent of the study's participants chose "I have always believed the world is round," nine percent chose "I always thought the world is round, but more recently I am skeptical/have doubts," five percent chose "I always thought the world is flat, but more recently I am skeptical/have doubts," four percent chose "I have always believed the world is flat," and 16 percent chose "Other/Not sure."

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Study: Only two-thirds of Millennials fully believe the Earth is round (Original Post) Demovictory9 Dec 2018 OP
I guess that's an improvement from 600 years ago, or in red school districts. Hoyt Dec 2018 #1
lol Cha Dec 2018 #9
I believe our education system has failed. marylandblue Dec 2018 #2
My millennial kid thinks her peers trolled the poll. nt. Mariana Dec 2018 #7
Agreed. Millennials have a fondness for dicking with pollsters. Decoy of Fenris Dec 2018 #13
Yes. I think so too. dameatball Dec 2018 #15
That was my conclusion, as well. GoCubsGo Dec 2018 #27
Umhm. Adolescent smartassery. :) Hortensis Dec 2018 #41
I have difficulty believing this AndJusticeForSome Dec 2018 #3
It's notable those saying 'flat' are more likely to be religious muriel_volestrangler Dec 2018 #14
Like this (Remember?): tblue37 Dec 2018 #40
Somebody's leg is being pulled dalton99a Dec 2018 #4
my first thought Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #5
Well I'd say "the world is round, but my street GWC58 Dec 2018 #19
The world is not round ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #6
Wow, you're correct. She spins on her axis. GWC58 Dec 2018 #20
Thank you!! hatrack Dec 2018 #28
Technically, an "oblate spheroid." nt Buns_of_Fire Dec 2018 #37
The other third TheRealNorth Dec 2018 #8
Who came blame them? Years of reduced funding has cut science education. Hassler Dec 2018 #10
Somewhere H.L. Mencken is laughing his head off... First Speaker Dec 2018 #11
It's that 16% "not sure" that worries me. TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #12
meh, I dunno...if I was asked the question that way, "do you believe the planet is round or flat?" anarch Dec 2018 #24
Future Republicans. VOX Dec 2018 #16
I'm still freaked out about young people supposedly not understanding analog clocks. betsuni Dec 2018 #17
Most people can't use an abacus or a slide rule. Codeine Dec 2018 #18
So if those non-analogs watch the movie "Back to the Future" they don't get it? betsuni Dec 2018 #21
They'll obviously figure it out from context Codeine Dec 2018 #25
The Examples In Your Title Are Not Surprising ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #22
You're right; Codeine Dec 2018 #30
Funny Last Note ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #32
I've Thought RobinA Dec 2018 #47
Will be interesting to see how medical profession checks for dementia in 30 years. Drawing a clock Hoyt Dec 2018 #45
I have to believe those that answer flat or skeptical are playing around and not serious still_one Dec 2018 #23
"Believe" that the earth is round? hatrack Dec 2018 #26
How many are Anti-Vaxxers? Renew Deal Dec 2018 #29
..and THIS group is gonna lead America into the next century? samnsara Dec 2018 #31
Yeah, along with the group that taught them this! They clearly failed, right? ck4829 Dec 2018 #35
+1 demmiblue Dec 2018 #39
To be fair Codeine Dec 2018 #42
Whose failure is this, really? Mariana Dec 2018 #48
Looks like 80% of DUers believe people answer polls truthfully jberryhill Dec 2018 #33
Hey, don't worry, only one third of Evangelicals believe the Earth orbits the Sun ck4829 Dec 2018 #34
I have a neighbor Mendocino Dec 2018 #46
Anyone have a disk magnet with center and circumferance poles? sanatanadharma Dec 2018 #36
Proof Sparkly Dec 2018 #38
And all the carpet at the edges of the Earth Codeine Dec 2018 #43
semantics...but they aren't asking if "the Earth" is round or flat, it says "the world" which could cbdo2007 Dec 2018 #44
40% of Americans believe in young earth creation. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2018 #49
The choices are badly worded dsc Dec 2018 #50
Maybe they had to read the choices. Sneederbunk Dec 2018 #51
Nah its cool. Lets keep slashing public school funding Tiggeroshii Dec 2018 #52
Trolling is considered high art for the young, especially if they think the question is stupid. haele Dec 2018 #53
 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
13. Agreed. Millennials have a fondness for dicking with pollsters.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 04:35 AM
Dec 2018

I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a personal hand in mucking around with surveys and nonsense like that, myself. Watching the resulting confusion can be quite funny, similar to this poll.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
3. I have difficulty believing this
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:00 AM
Dec 2018

I believe the results may have been as reported, but I also believe it had to have been due to snark.

I can imagine myself, being given that quiz, answering anything but the obvious, just from the absurdity of the question.

I'm not buying it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
14. It's notable those saying 'flat' are more likely to be religious
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 05:51 AM
Dec 2018

Now, it's possible, of course, that they're playing a prank with that; or that the very religious have a liking for folling with pollsters. But it seems more likely it's because both are what they really believe.



https://today.yougov.com/topics/philosophy/articles-reports/2018/04/02/most-flat-earthers-consider-themselves-religious

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. The world is not round ...
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:23 AM
Dec 2018

It is spherical.

Not perfectly, mind you, but close enough ...

I wish I could attribute this to snark, and it may be to SOME degree ... but there's a lot of fucking idiots out there.

There's legitimately probably 10% of younger people in the US who really don't even 'understand the question'. Like, they have SO little knowledge of historical questions and references, such that they would find themselves going 'well, it's flat right around here, but I know it's like a ball also, so ... I don't really get the question'. LIke they wouldn't understand the 'context' that 'in the distant past, many people thought the world was shaped like a disc, and not a sphere' ... they just don't even know that bit of history. So the question seems nonsensical to them.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
8. The other third
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:07 AM
Dec 2018

are the children of deplorables who don't believe such deep-state conspiracies like a round earth, the moon landing, or the heliocentric theory.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
24. meh, I dunno...if I was asked the question that way, "do you believe the planet is round or flat?"
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:29 AM
Dec 2018

My instinct would be to say "No."

I'd basically have to go with "other/not sure" out of that list of potential responses. I believe the Earth to be a roughly spherical shape, in three dimensions; neither "round" nor "flat" would seem to sufficiently describe the actual shape that the planet empirically seems to be.

So, you've probably got at least a 3-4% segment of the interviewees who are just smartasses like that....

But yeah, the level of ignorance in our society is alarming. Intentionally engineered by sinister forces, I would say, so not unexpected...but alarming, for sure.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
16. Future Republicans.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 06:50 AM
Dec 2018

My joke is serious. Americans are clearly dumbing down at a rapid clip.

When so many actually **believe** in outlandish lies, practice oppressive and exclusionary religious beliefs, and openly embrace truly horrible, hate-filled people, something is radically wrong here.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
18. Most people can't use an abacus or a slide rule.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:37 AM
Dec 2018

Analog clocks are older tools which they’ve simply never used, maybe haven’t even really seen. It’s not altogether surprising, really.

I’ve two kids, and they both can use an analog clock because we have one in the living room and I taught them to use it. But in their normal day-to-day life clocks are digital and an old-fashioned circular clockface just isn’t a thing.

betsuni

(25,519 posts)
21. So if those non-analogs watch the movie "Back to the Future" they don't get it?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:48 AM
Dec 2018

Any movie where clocks are part of the plot, they're clueless? Town square clocks are a mystery? I don't get it. I can use an abacus and slide rule. I'm an idiot so if I can do it, I think it can't be so hard. I guess that's my problem.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
25. They'll obviously figure it out from context
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:30 AM
Dec 2018

I should imagine; I don’t think I’ve seen that film other than short clips, so maybe it’s not obvious?

All I’m saying is that any number of older tools end up being abandoned as they lose relevance. A world of ubiquitous digital clocks may end up mostly moving away from analog clock faces. Alternatively, they may gain some retro-chic fashion significance and end up everywhere again.

Either way, everyone will still know what time it is.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
22. The Examples In Your Title Are Not Surprising
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:49 AM
Dec 2018

Geez, calculators came out when i was in early HS and that was a long time ago. I can understand people not being able to use slide rules or an abacus.

But, a regular clock? People still wear watches. There are clock towers in tons of towns. Work places, even fast food joints, still have regular clocks on the wall.

Just surprised that clocks would be something people at that age don't fully grasp.

Like i said, the other two, for sure.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
30. You're right;
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:33 AM
Dec 2018

and that’s part of why I think this is probably an overstated issue. Most kids could probably still get by with a regular clock, but there’s every likelihood that a near-term future exists where clockfaces become something like the sundials that sit out in front of city halls and libraries.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
32. Funny Last Note
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:04 AM
Dec 2018

Our neighbor has a sundial.

It's in a spot where our sycamore, our silver oak, or our orientalis covers is up 80% of the day, then their mulberry tree covers it almost the rest of the time.

Then in the winter when there are no leaves, with the sun coming from farther south, their fir tree and house are in the way.

Even on clear days, their sundial actually tells the time about 2 hours a day for about 2/3rds of the year!

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
47. I've Thought
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:55 PM
Dec 2018

(anecdotally, of course) that the slide to digital timepieces had sort of stopped where it was at a certain point. Seemed like there was a time when EVERY clock and watch HAD to be digital. Everybody with a watch had a digital. Now I seem to know more people with analog watches. If you go watch shopping at a middle of the road store they have more analogs than digitals. Personally, all my three watches are analog and I wouldn't even consider a digital after having had one. I found digitals harder to read than analogs and I have a number of inherited clocks that are pre-digital. My nephew can't read analog, so I guess there's room for both in this world.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
45. Will be interesting to see how medical profession checks for dementia in 30 years. Drawing a clock
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:41 AM
Dec 2018

The Clock Drawing Test has been a common part of dementia screening for decades.


hatrack

(59,587 posts)
26. "Believe" that the earth is round?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:30 AM
Dec 2018

Last edited Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:57 AM - Edit history (1)

How about "are aware that" the earth is round? (Or, as pointed out above, spherical, to be precise).

Jesus Christ, pathetic on both sides - not the OP, the "journalist" who assembled this piece.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
31. ..and THIS group is gonna lead America into the next century?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:57 AM
Dec 2018

..they shouldnt even be allowed to vote..

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
42. To be fair
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:03 AM
Dec 2018

we’ve been run by generations who believe every animal in existence descends from a mated pair rescued from a global flood on a big wooden boat, who believed the best way to treat a disease was cutting open the veins and allowing the patient to bleed for a while, and that the spinster lady with the herb garden and the midwifery skills was likely in league with the Devil himself.

We’ll get by.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
48. Whose failure is this, really?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:10 PM
Dec 2018

Who were responsible for teaching them? Oh, right.

Before you go fantasizing about restricting their right to vote, perhaps you should take a look at which age groups tend to vote for which party. Those older folks you think are so much more knowing and wise mostly vote Republican.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
33. Looks like 80% of DUers believe people answer polls truthfully
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:21 AM
Dec 2018

I virtually never answer survey questions truthfully.

Someone wants something from me for free so that they can make money. Ummm, no, they don’t get information from me for free.

Mendocino

(7,491 posts)
46. I have a neighbor
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:01 PM
Dec 2018

that believes the sun is only about 50 miles from earth. He also thinks that all water only comes from rain or bubbles out of the ground. He thinks all water is "new".

sanatanadharma

(3,706 posts)
36. Anyone have a disk magnet with center and circumferance poles?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:41 AM
Dec 2018

I will speak not of polls or millennials, but of flat-earthers.

All it takes is a disk magnet to negate the possibility of a flat (disk) earth with a center pole and an opposite pole at the circumference.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
38. Proof
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:52 AM
Dec 2018

If the earth were flat, cats would have knocked everything off of it by now.

(Sorry if you've heard that one. I probably read it here first.)

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
44. semantics...but they aren't asking if "the Earth" is round or flat, it says "the world" which could
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:19 AM
Dec 2018

have a different interpretation.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
50. The choices are badly worded
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:35 PM
Dec 2018

say I thought the world was flat when I was say 2 or 3 but after that found out the world was round. No answer matches that.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
52. Nah its cool. Lets keep slashing public school funding
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:13 PM
Dec 2018

People realize those are future teachers, right? Smdh

haele

(12,654 posts)
53. Trolling is considered high art for the young, especially if they think the question is stupid.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:15 PM
Dec 2018

In actuality, it's probably 90% will actually know (not believe - believe is the wrong word in this poll. Believing is a subjective condition), 10% have never considered the world around them and don't really care one way or the other.

Haele

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