You okay, Ohio?

[bigtree]

Eric Boehlert @EricBoehlert 14m14 minutes ago
918 gun suicides in OH last year

Randy Ludlow @RandyLudlow
1,589 dead ... Ohio's gun-death rate rises in 2017 to highest since records began in 1999 https://t.co/gWPNo1pw1C

[democratisphere]

1. Obviously not!

Ohio and the rest of the USA are suffering from acute mental illness.

[bigtree]

2. we're always going to have mental health crises and challenges

...one of those challenges that needn't be intractable is the problem of mentally ill individuals accessing guns.

I think Ohio is a state where unregulated, unlicensed, unaccountable gun sales proliferate at gun shows and the like where the vast majority of guns in the state are purchased.

[hack89]

3. All state and federal gun laws apply to gun shows in Ohio

so I question your premise that they are "unregulated, unlicensed, unaccountable". I also question your premise that gun shows are "where the vast majority of guns in the state are purchased." - do you have actual proof of this?

[Armymedic88]

4. Just go hangout..

In the parking lot of a Bill Goldman's Gun and Knife Show on Sunday (the last day of the weekend long show), here in Dayton and you'll see how many unchecked firearm transactions occur at these Gun Shows.

[hack89]

5. Private sales are legal everywhere in America

but even they are regulated - if you sell too many, the ATF classifies you as a dealer and requires a license. The majority of sellers at gun shows are licensed dealers - they have to be if that is how they make a living.

[Armymedic88]

6. I understand that..

However, when the show is over and the dealers who were in the show start selling unsold products from their trunks in the parking lot that's a problem. I have notified ATF of at least 3 "dealers" who do such business. And when a private transaction takes place in a parking lot its hard to believe that they are following state law that penalizes anyone who recklessly sells, lends, gives, or furnishes a firearm to a person prohibited by state law from acquiring a firearm.

[hack89]

7. That is a policing problem

cops don't take it seriously and the ATF is understaffed. My only point is that Ohio is not unique like the poster I was replying to seems to think.

[bigtree]

8. Ohio is certainly not unique in this

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...there's no license, permit, or registration required for gun purchases anywhere in the state, is that right? (yes)

[safeinOhio]

9. Moved back to Michigan.

I’m Ohio one could purchase a hand gun at a yard sale with no paper work. Not in Michigan. It requires a trip to police station for back ground check, check on serial number, background check on buyer and permit to purchase that needs to be returned.
Makes more sense to me.

[hack89]

10. Sounds reasonable nt

[safeinOhio]

11. Reasonable may be the new normal.

NRA is in deep do do now. Sure hope their link to Russia pans out.

[hack89]

12. I doubt it.

Gun control is not a high priority for most people.