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You know, I was just feeling bad for Cohen. No more. What kind of man does this? I forgot all about the pictures that he posted of his daughter in lingerie on the internet no less. What kind of man, personal trump lawyer, that paid off trumps ladies.
Michael Cohens Family: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
3. Cohen Shared a Controversial Photo of His Daughter Wearing Lingerie
Link to tweet
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Michael Cohen shared what some considered a cringe-worthy photo of his adult daughter wearing black lingerie. So proud of my Ivy League daughter brains and beauty channeling her Edie Sedgwick, he wrote on Twitter with the photo of his daughter Samantha, then 21.
The tweet caused a firestorm on social media with some people accusing Cohen of being creepy. According to BBC, when a Twitter user wrote Cohen, Most fathers dont post lingerie shots of their daughters. I guess #Trump must be rubbing off on you, Cohen retorted, Beauty and brains you a-hole! Its a modeling shot remake from an old Edie Sedgwick photo. #hater.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/michael-cohen-family-daughter-photo-children/
Same man that allows his teen daughter to do a lap dance for him.
Both men are sick and I truly hope they get the care they need while serving time.
LisaM
(27,811 posts)That's a very strange remark. But, the second picture, with Trump and Ivanka, is far more perturbing.
Edie was beautiful but she died young abusing alcohol and barbiturates. Strange comparison.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,188 posts)Onyrleft
(344 posts)Initech
(100,072 posts)Trump sure can pick 'em!
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)and doesn't realize how inappropriate his feelings and actions are.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)It's a professional modeling shot, and she's 21 y.o., not a child.
I disagree with all y'all.
I'm not a girl, but I'm kinda thinking if I were, and I asked my dad "dad, am I beautiful?" and he said "Naw" ... my reaction wouldn't be "Awesome, phew, you're not creepy!" ... I'd be like "Well, that sucks".
Hot and beautiful are two totally different things in this sort of context.
It's nothing like Trump getting lapdances from his like 13 y.o. daughter. He probably approved the pictures of her doing so going out as well.
You think it is a okay to post images on the internet of your daughter in her lingerie.
Correct. He was not the one that said she was hot, yet posted her 'hot' images. Again I ask what father does that?
Not sure what this means.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)And there's COUNTLESS others of the two of them that are 'sexual' looking, when she's a freaking child. They're definitely NOT all paparazzi photos that were put out without him knowing/approving.
Trumps pics with Ivanka as a child that he's put out for the world are in a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEAGUE than what Cohen did. We clear?
And it's not really fair to call that 'in her underwear', it's a modeling shot, that I'm sure SHE HERSELF wished to be taken. She POSED for the shots. It's totally tasteful, artistic, and non-revealing.
In fact, it's probably not even her bra. Ergo, not 'her underwear'.
Dude didn't barge into the room where she was changing, snap a frontal photo, and post it to Instagram. But you're making it sound like that's what he did.
I think a man SHOULD BE both proud of his daughters brains, AND proud to proclaim her BEAUTIFUL ... to the whole friggin world.
I just don't have a problem with what he did, provided it wasn't against her wishes.
But then ... I'm pretty Liberal ... grew up in the 70's/80's ... just not as uptight about the human body as a lot of others maybe ... people in my family walked around naked when I was growing up, so ... people's experiences can be different.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Yes sir, Mr Lebowski. We are clear! Yes Sir. Yes Sir!
I called it lingerie not underwear. Links to where she had the photo shoot and where she gave dad permission to post them on the internet out of context of it being linked to a photo shoot. Where did this photo shoot happen and where are the original photos from said shoot posted. Link please. TIA
I just don't have a problem with what he did, provided it wasn't against her wishes.
No man has the right to exploit a woman, daughter or not. Mr Lebowski? We are in a #metoo moment and no woman should ever be exploited. You have no clue if it was against her wishes.
I saw a brief clip of him walking her into court. Wish I could find that clip. It bothered me. He had a tight grip on her upper arm. Shocked me. It looked like he has hauling, not helping her along on her crutch. Body language is telling. Just saying.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Did he make money from posting the shot? I mean, what do you mean by 'exploit'? Are you suggesting that the man ordered the pics taken, so he could post them to internet for some kind of personal gain? Do you have evidence of that?
IMHO, it doesn't take much to figure out that is a 'modeling' type of shot. I kinda know what they look like. I don't have 'evidence', other than what I'd call ... obvious ... that being ... it *very* much looks like it is. Certainly bears no resemblance to a 'candid' photo, does it?
Since when is a simply brassiere ... 'lingerie'? I would certainly feel a little cheated if my partner promised 'sexy lingerie' ... and it turned out to look like the bra in the photo ...
And no I have no proof she approved, but neither do you have evidence she did not, I would guess?
Like I said, however I would change my opinion were I to find out that he took liberties in posting them without her consent, but I don't have a reason to believe that happened at this time.
There's nothing wrong with a papa proudly declaring his daughter smart and beautiful, posting a picture she apparently elected to have taken as a representation of herself. I don't consider that 'creepy', and I don't think this particular photo is 'exploiting' her ... in this context. It's not revealing, it's not a sexual shot, IMHO. I think it's classy and artistic.
But my main point, which I gather you understand ... lol ... is that what Cohen did is nothing compared to Trump literally posing TOGETHER in sexualized photos with his CHILD ... and releasing those to the world.
I just ... don't agree with the consensus here on this subject, based on what is known and/or apparent. Sorry.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Not worth a response. Done here. Way to tired for games.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Anyways, I love you sheshe ... love all your posts, agree w/you nearly always ... and if it turns out Cohen's evil wrt his daughter like Trump, my opinion will totally change, obviously. I hope you know that.
TBH I just like cool, artistic B/W photos, I like Edie Sedgwick and Andy Warhol, I like the human body, and I think there's nothing wrong w/dads that proclaim their daughters smart and beautiful. And I don't see where the exploitation is coming in here.
Trump, OTOH, is a very obvious legitimate freaking pedo creep and serial sex offender.
At this moment, not prepared to equate the two men based on this evidence.
Til next time ...
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)"Or Implied" says it all.
Another words I never said any of it and you filled in all the blanks.
Nite.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Learn the difference between 'implication' and 'inference.'
Please. You'll come across as far less hysterical and emotional.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'm not at all emotional about this, frankly I don't give a sh*t about what Cohen did (in this case). I think it's very weak evidence for the seriousness of the accusation being made is my point.
You're right ... INFERRED would've been more accurate, in the rare cases that I went further than what SheShe actually said. Mostly I addressed exactly what she said.
Thanks for your input
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Its amazing to what lengths some people will go to in order to justify their beliefs!
Im now going to bleach my brain! Arg! See ya on the other side!
Me. Just going to sleep.
Done with them.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Having this creepy ass picture taken, with his 13yo-ish, braless daughter ... and then releasing it to the public ... while he's also accused of molesting a different 13 year old, palled around with Epstein, promoted Alex Acosta to his cabinet, stands accused of sexual assault by 19 women, and bragged about ... you know ... to Access Hollywood.
Sorry, I just disagree.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)'My father, who has always been supportive of my endeavors, was merely expressing his pride. There is nothing inappropriate in the picture and those who seek to make it something it is not are merely Trump haters who are using this as an opportunity to stir up drama.
'I find it hypocritical that those who consider themselves liberal would criticize a woman embracing her body. There is nothing sexualized about the photograph... it is tasteful and it is demure.
'There is nothing inappropriate about my taking the photograph or my father's decision to share it. I am ashamed at these people for their reactions and believe it indicated more about their own perverted mindsets as nothing they are saying has any merit nor is it rooted in any truth.'
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Oh, and I didn't accuse anyone else of being a pervert for having their opinion
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Both kids have done glamour photo shots but nothing like the photos in this OP. I strongly disagree that these are tasteful or appropriate
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Gothmog
(145,231 posts)There is no way that these pictures are appropriate.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)The pic in the OP that shows both Cohen and his daughter is of course not the actual picture he posted, he posted the B&W modeling shot in the background.
The Cohen one I consider vastly different from the Trump one. Ivanka is a CHILD, scantily-clad, and looking like she's giving daddy a lapdance. I mean ... it's not even CLOSE as far as which is more 'disturbing' ... TO ME.
I can see how it's a 'matter of opinion', but MY opinion is ... Cohen did nothing wrong here. And his daughter herself 100% backed him, publicly, so ... I'm not going to be a busybody and anoint myself as final arbiter of 'appropriateness' on their family matter. She's a grown-up, you see?
But you can go head on if you like
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)The Cohen picture is also very disturbing to me.
StarryNite
(9,444 posts)I cannot imagine my husband posting a photo of our adult daughter in her underwear. He's never even seen her in her underwear since she was a little kid!
Going back another generation my father never would have exploited me or my sister that way either, had there been an internet back then.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)No father does this. At least not one that truly cares for women.
912gdm
(959 posts)Celerity
(43,356 posts)so much pearl clutching here (and lack of fashion/art knowledge)
Did Cohen paste her pictures?
Not.
He pasted his daughters pictures on the intertubes!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)but still there were many others he could have posted instead of this one .
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Another women exploited in a picture.
Why would a father do that to their child? This not cool. This is not and will never be a good way to portray your baby girl. No matter she is 21. She is still his baby girl and should always protect her. Always.
Me.
(35,454 posts)as a teenager
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)let's focus on the real issues endangering our country, please.