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sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 10:22 PM Dec 2018

What kind of man does this to his daughter?

You know, I was just feeling bad for Cohen. No more. What kind of man does this? I forgot all about the pictures that he posted of his daughter in lingerie on the internet no less. What kind of man, personal trump lawyer, that paid off trumps ladies.

Michael Cohen’s Family: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

3. Cohen Shared a Controversial Photo of His Daughter Wearing Lingerie


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Michael Cohen shared what some considered a cringe-worthy photo of his adult daughter wearing black lingerie. “So proud of my Ivy League daughter… brains and beauty channeling her Edie Sedgwick,” he wrote on Twitter with the photo of his daughter Samantha, then 21.

The tweet caused a firestorm on social media with some people accusing Cohen of being creepy. According to BBC, when a Twitter user wrote Cohen, “Most fathers don’t post lingerie shots of their daughters. I guess #Trump must be rubbing off on you,” Cohen retorted, “Beauty and brains you a-hole! It’s a modeling shot remake from an old Edie Sedgwick photo. #hater.”


https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/michael-cohen-family-daughter-photo-children/

Same man that allows his teen daughter to do a lap dance for him.





Both men are sick and I truly hope they get the care they need while serving time.
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What kind of man does this to his daughter? (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2018 OP
Channeling her Edie Sedgewick? LisaM Dec 2018 #1
No kidding ornotna Dec 2018 #2
Yup. Edie OD'd when she was 28. TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #22
So; why do guys in red states relate to Trump again? Onyrleft Dec 2018 #3
Creeps and pervs tend to travel in packs. Initech Dec 2018 #4
I was just reading up on the on the Edie Sedgwick mention. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #6
A man who thinks his daughter is "hot" milestogo Dec 2018 #5
Thank you. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #7
Dude didn't say 'she's hot', the photo is tasteful and not at all revealing ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #8
So. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #11
I mean Trump 'allowed' that photo of him and his daughter to be publicized mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #13
Well you really did not say that about trump in your post. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #15
Exploited? How? mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #16
Two long posts saying so much of what was never said by me. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #17
I actually addressed exactly what you said (or implied), both times ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #20
"Or Implied" sheshe2 Dec 2018 #23
First, learn the difference between 'implication' and 'inference.' Please. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #31
Golly, here I thought 'hysterical' was bad word around here? mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #34
You lasted longer than I would have lunatica Dec 2018 #21
ha! sheshe2 Dec 2018 #24
Yes, my totally strange belief that what Cohen posted doesn't remotely approach ... mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #27
This is what his daughter said about it Major Nikon Dec 2018 #30
Notice that's pretty much my exact argument (other than the Trump Hater part) mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #33
I can not imagine a parent thinking that this is appropriate Gothmog Dec 2018 #38
Thank you. nt sheshe2 Dec 2018 #41
As the father of two daughters, I strongly disagree Gothmog Dec 2018 #35
And that's your right ... I agree to disagree mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #36
As a parent, I am strongly disturbed by the pictures in the OP Gothmog Dec 2018 #37
The Trump one? Hell No! That one's creepy as s***. mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #39
I am parent of two daughters and I object to both pictures Gothmog Dec 2018 #40
Sick phucks, the both of them! StarryNite Dec 2018 #9
Thank you. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #12
Simple. Don't diddle kids. 912gdm Dec 2018 #10
its was a redo of a really famous Edie Sedgwick photo taken by Andy Warhol Celerity Dec 2018 #14
Grand. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #18
Birds of a feather... lunatica Dec 2018 #19
it was a modeling pic JI7 Dec 2018 #25
#metoo moment. sheshe2 Dec 2018 #26
. dalton99a Dec 2018 #28
And Don't Fotget How He Was Urging Breast Implants For Her Me. Dec 2018 #29
Oh look, a thread attacking Michael Cohen but winds up shaming his daughter for a modeling job. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #32

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
1. Channeling her Edie Sedgewick?
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 10:43 PM
Dec 2018

That's a very strange remark. But, the second picture, with Trump and Ivanka, is far more perturbing.

ornotna

(10,801 posts)
2. No kidding
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 10:53 PM
Dec 2018

Edie was beautiful but she died young abusing alcohol and barbiturates. Strange comparison.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
5. A man who thinks his daughter is "hot"
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:12 PM
Dec 2018

and doesn't realize how inappropriate his feelings and actions are.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Dude didn't say 'she's hot', the photo is tasteful and not at all revealing ...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:34 PM
Dec 2018

It's a professional modeling shot, and she's 21 y.o., not a child.

I disagree with all y'all.

I'm not a girl, but I'm kinda thinking if I were, and I asked my dad "dad, am I beautiful?" and he said "Naw" ... my reaction wouldn't be "Awesome, phew, you're not creepy!" ... I'd be like "Well, that sucks".

Hot and beautiful are two totally different things in this sort of context.

It's nothing like Trump getting lapdances from his like 13 y.o. daughter. He probably approved the pictures of her doing so going out as well.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
11. So.
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:53 PM
Dec 2018

You think it is a okay to post images on the internet of your daughter in her lingerie.

Correct. He was not the one that said she was hot, yet posted her 'hot' images. Again I ask what father does that?

Not sure what this means.



He probably approved the pictures of her doing so going out as well.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. I mean Trump 'allowed' that photo of him and his daughter to be publicized
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:06 AM
Dec 2018

And there's COUNTLESS others of the two of them that are 'sexual' looking, when she's a freaking child. They're definitely NOT all paparazzi photos that were put out without him knowing/approving.

Trumps pics with Ivanka as a child that he's put out for the world are in a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEAGUE than what Cohen did. We clear?

And it's not really fair to call that 'in her underwear', it's a modeling shot, that I'm sure SHE HERSELF wished to be taken. She POSED for the shots. It's totally tasteful, artistic, and non-revealing.

In fact, it's probably not even her bra. Ergo, not 'her underwear'.

Dude didn't barge into the room where she was changing, snap a frontal photo, and post it to Instagram. But you're making it sound like that's what he did.

I think a man SHOULD BE both proud of his daughters brains, AND proud to proclaim her BEAUTIFUL ... to the whole friggin world.

I just don't have a problem with what he did, provided it wasn't against her wishes.

But then ... I'm pretty Liberal ... grew up in the 70's/80's ... just not as uptight about the human body as a lot of others maybe ... people in my family walked around naked when I was growing up, so ... people's experiences can be different.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
15. Well you really did not say that about trump in your post.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:46 AM
Dec 2018
Trumps pics with Ivanka as a child are in a WHOLE DIFFERENT LEAGUE than what Cohen did. We clear?


Yes sir, Mr Lebowski. We are clear! Yes Sir. Yes Sir!

And it's not really fair to call that 'in her underwear', it's a modeling shot, that I'm sure SHE HERSELF wished to be taken. She POSED for the shots. It's totally tasteful, artistic, and non-revealing.


I called it lingerie not underwear. Links to where she had the photo shoot and where she gave dad permission to post them on the internet out of context of it being linked to a photo shoot. Where did this photo shoot happen and where are the original photos from said shoot posted. Link please. TIA

I think a man SHOULD BE both proud of his daughters brains, AND proud to proclaim her BEAUTIFUL ... to the whole friggin world.

I just don't have a problem with what he did, provided it wasn't against her wishes.


No man has the right to exploit a woman, daughter or not. Mr Lebowski? We are in a #metoo moment and no woman should ever be exploited. You have no clue if it was against her wishes.

I saw a brief clip of him walking her into court. Wish I could find that clip. It bothered me. He had a tight grip on her upper arm. Shocked me. It looked like he has hauling, not helping her along on her crutch. Body language is telling. Just saying.










 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. Exploited? How?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:07 AM
Dec 2018

Did he make money from posting the shot? I mean, what do you mean by 'exploit'? Are you suggesting that the man ordered the pics taken, so he could post them to internet for some kind of personal gain? Do you have evidence of that?

IMHO, it doesn't take much to figure out that is a 'modeling' type of shot. I kinda know what they look like. I don't have 'evidence', other than what I'd call ... obvious ... that being ... it *very* much looks like it is. Certainly bears no resemblance to a 'candid' photo, does it?

Since when is a simply brassiere ... 'lingerie'? I would certainly feel a little cheated if my partner promised 'sexy lingerie' ... and it turned out to look like the bra in the photo ...

And no I have no proof she approved, but neither do you have evidence she did not, I would guess?

Like I said, however I would change my opinion were I to find out that he took liberties in posting them without her consent, but I don't have a reason to believe that happened at this time.

There's nothing wrong with a papa proudly declaring his daughter smart and beautiful, posting a picture she apparently elected to have taken as a representation of herself. I don't consider that 'creepy', and I don't think this particular photo is 'exploiting' her ... in this context. It's not revealing, it's not a sexual shot, IMHO. I think it's classy and artistic.

But my main point, which I gather you understand ... lol ... is that what Cohen did is nothing compared to Trump literally posing TOGETHER in sexualized photos with his CHILD ... and releasing those to the world.

I just ... don't agree with the consensus here on this subject, based on what is known and/or apparent. Sorry.

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
17. Two long posts saying so much of what was never said by me.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:16 AM
Dec 2018

Not worth a response. Done here. Way to tired for games.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
20. I actually addressed exactly what you said (or implied), both times ...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:32 AM
Dec 2018

Anyways, I love you sheshe ... love all your posts, agree w/you nearly always ... and if it turns out Cohen's evil wrt his daughter like Trump, my opinion will totally change, obviously. I hope you know that.

TBH I just like cool, artistic B/W photos, I like Edie Sedgwick and Andy Warhol, I like the human body, and I think there's nothing wrong w/dads that proclaim their daughters smart and beautiful. And I don't see where the exploitation is coming in here.

Trump, OTOH, is a very obvious legitimate freaking pedo creep and serial sex offender.

At this moment, not prepared to equate the two men based on this evidence.

Til next time ...

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
23. "Or Implied"
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:49 AM
Dec 2018

"Or Implied" says it all.

Another words I never said any of it and you filled in all the blanks.

Nite.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. First, learn the difference between 'implication' and 'inference.' Please.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:02 PM
Dec 2018

Learn the difference between 'implication' and 'inference.'

Please. You'll come across as far less hysterical and emotional.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
34. Golly, here I thought 'hysterical' was bad word around here?
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

I'm not at all emotional about this, frankly I don't give a sh*t about what Cohen did (in this case). I think it's very weak evidence for the seriousness of the accusation being made is my point.

You're right ... INFERRED would've been more accurate, in the rare cases that I went further than what SheShe actually said. Mostly I addressed exactly what she said.

Thanks for your input

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
21. You lasted longer than I would have
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:35 AM
Dec 2018

It’s amazing to what lengths some people will go to in order to justify their beliefs!

I’m now going to bleach my brain! Arg! See ya on the other side!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. Yes, my totally strange belief that what Cohen posted doesn't remotely approach ...
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:06 AM
Dec 2018

Having this creepy ass picture taken, with his 13yo-ish, braless daughter ... and then releasing it to the public ... while he's also accused of molesting a different 13 year old, palled around with Epstein, promoted Alex Acosta to his cabinet, stands accused of sexual assault by 19 women, and bragged about ... you know ... to Access Hollywood.



Sorry, I just disagree.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
30. This is what his daughter said about it
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018
'I finished a rough semester with a 3.75 GPA this spring, was asked to model for an up and coming photographer and just received some of the proofs,' the 21-year-old told DailyMail.com.

'My father, who has always been supportive of my endeavors, was merely expressing his pride. There is nothing inappropriate in the picture and those who seek to make it something it is not are merely Trump haters who are using this as an opportunity to stir up drama.

'I find it hypocritical that those who consider themselves liberal would criticize a woman embracing her body. There is nothing sexualized about the photograph... it is tasteful and it is demure.

'There is nothing inappropriate about my taking the photograph or my father's decision to share it. I am ashamed at these people for their reactions and believe it indicated more about their own perverted mindsets as nothing they are saying has any merit nor is it rooted in any truth.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4506006/Trump-s-lawyer-posts-photo-daughter-lingerie.html
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
33. Notice that's pretty much my exact argument (other than the Trump Hater part)
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:44 PM
Dec 2018

Oh, and I didn't accuse anyone else of being a pervert for having their opinion

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
35. As the father of two daughters, I strongly disagree
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:28 PM
Dec 2018

Both kids have done glamour photo shots but nothing like the photos in this OP. I strongly disagree that these are tasteful or appropriate

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
37. As a parent, I am strongly disturbed by the pictures in the OP
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:43 PM
Dec 2018

There is no way that these pictures are appropriate.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
39. The Trump one? Hell No! That one's creepy as s***.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 03:41 PM
Dec 2018

The pic in the OP that shows both Cohen and his daughter is of course not the actual picture he posted, he posted the B&W modeling shot in the background.

The Cohen one I consider vastly different from the Trump one. Ivanka is a CHILD, scantily-clad, and looking like she's giving daddy a lapdance. I mean ... it's not even CLOSE as far as which is more 'disturbing' ... TO ME.

I can see how it's a 'matter of opinion', but MY opinion is ... Cohen did nothing wrong here. And his daughter herself 100% backed him, publicly, so ... I'm not going to be a busybody and anoint myself as final arbiter of 'appropriateness' on their family matter. She's a grown-up, you see?

But you can go head on if you like

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
40. I am parent of two daughters and I object to both pictures
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 04:08 PM
Dec 2018

The Cohen picture is also very disturbing to me.

StarryNite

(9,444 posts)
9. Sick phucks, the both of them!
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 11:44 PM
Dec 2018

I cannot imagine my husband posting a photo of our adult daughter in her underwear. He's never even seen her in her underwear since she was a little kid!

Going back another generation my father never would have exploited me or my sister that way either, had there been an internet back then.

Celerity

(43,356 posts)
14. its was a redo of a really famous Edie Sedgwick photo taken by Andy Warhol
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:34 AM
Dec 2018

so much pearl clutching here (and lack of fashion/art knowledge)



JI7

(89,249 posts)
25. it was a modeling pic
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 01:57 AM
Dec 2018

but still there were many others he could have posted instead of this one .

sheshe2

(83,758 posts)
26. #metoo moment.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 02:05 AM
Dec 2018

Another women exploited in a picture.

Why would a father do that to their child? This not cool. This is not and will never be a good way to portray your baby girl. No matter she is 21. She is still his baby girl and should always protect her. Always.

TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
32. Oh look, a thread attacking Michael Cohen but winds up shaming his daughter for a modeling job.
Thu Dec 13, 2018, 12:14 PM
Dec 2018

let's focus on the real issues endangering our country, please.

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