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"Nobody got killed, nobody got robbed... This was not a big crime," (Original Post) kpete Dec 2018 OP
Rudy just described the Monica Lewinsky affair. muntrv Dec 2018 #1
And Hillary's private server PatSeg Dec 2018 #14
Hey, Rudy! PJMcK Dec 2018 #2
+1 ProfessorGAC Dec 2018 #3
TY (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2018 #4
Good points! MyOwnPeace Dec 2018 #12
spot on! The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #20
Could ghouliani be even more of a fool? Well, yes he can. Daily. BSdetect Dec 2018 #5
I guess we'll have to wait for the killing on 5th Avenue. Sigh. n/t Raven Dec 2018 #6
America was robbed edhopper Dec 2018 #7
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Dec 2018 #8
HISTORY was robbed and denied... Moostache Dec 2018 #9
Beyond short-sighted. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #10
We're moving into the final stage of denial I've waited on D_Master81 Dec 2018 #11
So Rudy has now admitted a CRIME happened, and Trump was involved. Maru Kitteh Dec 2018 #13
And I'll bet they still insist they're "pro-life." calimary Dec 2018 #15
How Trump signed a global death warrant for women Marcuse Dec 2018 #17
Is he admitting his client committed this "not big crime"? HopeAgain Dec 2018 #16
What's tRUMP hiding? Same thing that kept Cohen from fully SayItLoud Dec 2018 #18
Maybe not a "big crime"... Toorich Dec 2018 #19
We should empty the prisons of all drug offenders by that logic Pisces Dec 2018 #21
The American People got robbed, and lots of people have fallen out of Baltimike Dec 2018 #22
Um...Kashoggi? n/t kag Dec 2018 #23
"People were robbed. They were robbed of an election." Thank you, Neera Tanden nt raccoon Dec 2018 #24
Child neglect resulting in a death is a crime. Delmette2.0 Dec 2018 #25
Prisons are full of people who neither robbed or killed eissa Dec 2018 #26
308 Million American citizens were robbed, we are still counting the bodies! Runningdawg Dec 2018 #27

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
2. Hey, Rudy!
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 10:26 AM
Dec 2018

You said, "This was not a big crime."

1. Therefore you admit that there was a crime committed. In your mind, then, some crimes are worse than others. Fair enough but if a Democratic president had committed ONLY the two campaign violations of paying off Trump's two mistresses, you Republicans would spend four years of bullshit investigations. Meanwhile, nearly every day brings new revelations of sleazy activities by Trump & Co. Oh, one other thing: let's drop the nonsensical facade that the women merely have allegations. Trump had extra-marital sex with these women. You know that to be true.

2. Every single time you've made a statement of "fact," it shortly became clear that you were wrong. Your track record is not respectable.

3. The campaign finance crimes that Cohen admitted are but the tip of the iceberg AND YOU KNOW IT. Look around you: there are dozens of investigations swarming around this administration and Trump. I'm not fond of cliches but where there's smoke, there's fire.

4. You claim to be the most ethical person you know; is that why you announced your divorce from Donna Hanover on television before you had inform her? Your personal behavior in that one instance tells us all we need to know about your "ethics."

You've morphed from someone who was ugly and evil into something stupid and dumb. I say dumb because you're willing to work for Trump for free. What the hell? No salary from a "really, really rich" guy? What's in it for you, then? Your policies as a politician do not line up with Trump's. Why are you so willing to make a public ass of yourself for him.

Trump is going down. In what's left of your heart, you know this to be true. You know that Robert Mueller is probably one of the finest law enforcement professionals in the world. You've cast your lot with a loser, a criminal and a disaster. That's some way to end your career.

Enjoy!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. HISTORY was robbed and denied...
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:22 AM
Dec 2018

Hillary Clinton should have (finally) become America's first woman president. She was FAR more qualified and FAR, FAR more prepared for the office than the piece of shit that conspired with foreigners to usurp the office and tarnish the nation forevermore.

There is no forgiveness forthcoming for Trump, only prosecutions and shame. The real shame though is that Hillary Clinton would have been a consequential president because the world is at a fulcrum point right now and REAL leadership from America is desperately needed...

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
10. Beyond short-sighted.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:23 AM
Dec 2018

It allowed for a monster to be elected. Fewer people will have access to affordable healthcare. Death. Russia gaining power on the world stage. Death. Poor responses to natural disasters. Death. The emboldening of White Nationalists. Death. A tax scam that gives to the rich and takes from the poor. Death. A justice department that has backed off of the pursuit for civil rights. Death.

These things matter greatly in a large society and truly equate to more death.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
11. We're moving into the final stage of denial I've waited on
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:33 AM
Dec 2018

All along it went from nothing happened to now we've reached the end of the road where there can be no more denials but trying to spin the crimes as "not that important". Apparently now from Trump's legal team only "serious crimes" like murder, manslaughter, theft, etc are really important crimes that the President should be prosecuted for. Fraud, tax evasion, lying all that...not important.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
15. And I'll bet they still insist they're "pro-life."
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM
Dec 2018

Guys! REMEMBER THIS!!! Whenever you find yourselves in an argument with one of these starry-eyed addled-brained (and perhaps somewhat sincere - or at least they THINK they’re being totally sincere - and moral) anti-choicers, this may be an approach that encourages at least a partial return to REALITY.

You can’t say you’re “pro-life” if

1) you’re okay with THIS. An innocent post-birth child DIES in custody because she was unfortunate enough to have brown skin, and her parent(s) were desperately trying to escape to freedom and safety - probably MAINLY for, and because of, HER.

And there are more such arguments.

2) you’re okay with the horrifying butchering murder of a journalist because “it’s only one man” and we’ve got “important” business deals with the murderers’ sponsoring country.

3) you don’t care about the poor, homeless, and destitute in our country, because your preachers and politicians assure you that “the least of these” are lazy moochers and it’s their own fault that they’re poor, homeless, and destitute.

4) you refuse to believe that there’s an accelerating climate crisis that MAYBE we can still do something to avert while we still have a few years to work on it. And you refuse to believe the scientific community’s increasingly urgent warnings about it. And you refuse to accept that it’s human-caused.

5) you favor the death penalty. While you yowl that “ALL life is sacred!”

6) you want more guns. And less regulation or restriction on more guns. For whoever feels like having them. “Guns don’t kill people,” you bleat. “People kill people,” you insist. At best you’re only half-right. People do kill people. With GUNS.

7) you love it when your politicians cut programs that fund the social safety net. You know, the one that keeps the poor, homeless, and destitute from falling through the floor. Because you want that buck-98 tax cut your politicians lied to you about - claiming it would solve all your problems and make you rich like the 1%.
And, seriously, why the hell should you have to be bothered by some stupid “do-gooder” idea like being your brother’s keeper, or being mindful about whatever you do to “the least of these”? Note: these bastards have even turned the term “do-gooder” into a putdown. A negative. An insult. So doing good is somehow a bad thing, then?!?!

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
16. Is he admitting his client committed this "not big crime"?
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM
Dec 2018

'Cause it was apparently big enough for Cohen to get 3 years...

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
18. What's tRUMP hiding? Same thing that kept Cohen from fully
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 12:06 PM
Dec 2018

Co operating. MEN IN CEMENT SHOES. You DO NOT play with the Russian and NYC mob and not have several MEN IN CEMENT shoes on your conscious.

Delmette2.0

(4,164 posts)
25. Child neglect resulting in a death is a crime.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:06 PM
Dec 2018

She was in the custody of the U.S. Government.

She was someone's child.



Rudy, go fuck yourself.






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