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karynnj

(59,503 posts)
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:34 PM Dec 2018

Excellent Forbes article showing why there is NO Uranium One story

The reason this is useful is that Chuck Grassely has spoken of starting an investigation on this. This article, written by someone with credientials in the field, outline why EVERY accusation is completed exaggerated, ignorant of the time lime, or just completely bogus.

So, just in case, we are innudated with more heated rhetoric accusing the Clintons on this, I thought this would be good to post to help anyone who needs it fight back.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/12/13/russian-uranium-one-deal-and-hillary-clinton-in-the-news-again/

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Thanks for this. Unfortunately facts no longer matter, at all.
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 01:38 PM
Dec 2018

When the traitor party are removed from power of the House, it will get a little better.

HRC scares them because she is smarter than them and they know she is a patriot and they are not.

Gonna get real bad folks, before it gets better. The deplorables are gonna get ugly.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
2. I agree, but in addition to people who "do not really care" about truth, there are likely
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:00 PM
Dec 2018

at least some who will hear that there is an investigation, but not that this has been thoroughly debunked. I know earlier articles debunked it, but this one IMO in the best written and clearest that I have seen.

At this point, I would guess they would love to discredit Hillary and Bill Clinton. Note that here, they would also discredit President Obama. Think back to prior Presidential conventions and elections. Though the candidate and even a younger star chosen to be the keynote speaker will be the most likely to energize our side, there have also always been speeches by "elder" statesmen. Their impact is directly in relation to how they are viewed.

They would love to paint the Obama years as unsuccessful, corrupt and years when the US lost power. They would love the 2020 candidates to be like the 2008 and 2012 Republican conventions when neither GWB or Cheney appeared. This is why even career people like John Brennan have been demonized. They ignore that it is pretty obvious that the Obamas, Clintons, John Kerry and Joe Biden are cheered in most of the world and in most cities in the US.

I posted this because it is always possible that someone not completely over the edge might mention this and question whether corruption might be on "both sides". While neither side is 100% clean, it is far from equal -- as Obama noted, no one in his administartion was indicted. We are not yet 2 years into the Trump Presidency and people are betting on who is next.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
4. The Uranium One Story Falls Apart
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:08 PM
Dec 2018

simply based upon one fact: Hillary Clinton and The State Department were not the only US agency that had to approve the sale, thus Hillary Clinton had no actual say in whether the deal was approved or not. That is, if one is trying to allege that the donations to the Clinton Foundation were "nefarious" and the reason "she approved" the deal - the theory crashes when you understand the approval of the deal didn't hinge on Hillary Clinton.

Further, to try to investigate this and tie it to Hillary Clinton, they still have to establish that there was something "wrong" with the deal. Again, over a half dozen US agencies approved the deal, and when one knows the simple details, there is nothing "wrong" with the sale. Simply put, there is nothing to "investigate" that can be tied to both "bad/wrong deal" and "Hillary Clinton is responsible for it". This isn't Benghazi where the State Department is directly related. And Shepard Smith explained this all in less than two minutes, so its going to be pretty difficult to start a fake investigation into a matter that falls apart under not even close scrutiny.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
5. All true, however, it is sometimes good to have a source that refutes each and every accusation like
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:14 PM
Dec 2018

this articles does. Not to mention, it not being the State Department - is important for HRC, but it is at least as important to make it clear that no part of the Obama administration did anything wrong. President Obama is NOW the strongest voice that we have ... except, perhaps, the awesome Michelle.

Arkansas Granny

(31,516 posts)
7. The only people who think that Uranium One is still a story are those who want to
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:23 PM
Dec 2018

believe that Uranium One is still a story and no amount of facts will ever change their minds.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
8. If Grassley does start up hearings, there will be articles that say there are hearings
Fri Dec 14, 2018, 02:33 PM
Dec 2018

That alone will lead to some who have NOT read or heard that there is nothing there to wonder if there is something there.

keithbvadu2

(36,802 posts)
9. Refuting it with their own logic.
Sat Dec 15, 2018, 02:32 AM
Dec 2018

So Hillary supposedly gave away all that uranium/control?

What happened to the deal?

Now that republicans love Mother Russia, note that they did not cancel the deal.

https://www.google.com/search?q=clinton+uranium+deal+snopes&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

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