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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 01:10 AM Dec 2018

NYU Law Professor on Giuliani: 'We are in a death spiral of stupid'

NYU law professor drops hammer on Giuliani for latest defense of Trump: ‘We are in a death spiral of stupid’

New York University law professor Melissa Murray lamented on Sunday that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is descending down “a death spiral of stupid” after the former New York mayor argued that Donald Trump did not break campaign finance laws by paying hush money to alleged mistresses during the 2016 campaign.

While appearing on ABC News Sunday morning, Giuliani said that President Trump cannot be charged with campaign finance violations because paying off mistresses is not a campaign expense by definition.

Murray first pointed out that Giuliani had been wrong to assert that “collusion” is not a crime.

“Giuliani is correct that collusion [with Russia] is not a federal crime writ large,” Murray said. “But all of the activities that go into collusion — misleading statements, collaborating with a foreign government, directing payments from a foreign government to a campaign — all of those things are federal crimes and the conspiracy to engage with others to do this is also a crime.”

Murray went on to say that Giuliani was also incorrect to suggest that prosecutors have a “weak” case on campaign finance violations because Trump had paid only “a little money” to his alleged mistresses.


We NYU alumni are really embarrassed by Rudolph.
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NYU Law Professor on Giuliani: 'We are in a death spiral of stupid' (Original Post) Julian Englis Dec 2018 OP
Rude Ghoul's brain was eaten by a zombie Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #1
On the other end of the spectrum, while mayor, Giuliani insisted that no_hypocrisy Dec 2018 #2

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,484 posts)
1. Rude Ghoul's brain was eaten by a zombie
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 05:52 AM
Dec 2018

Giuliani sounds ignorant of the law every time he speaks, and I'm not even related to a lawyer. He must be preaching to 'the base' in the hopes that they will revolt and save him from prison.


OT: Fake news! Murray is too pretty to be a professor. Where's her lab coat and a second pair of glasses on her head?

no_hypocrisy

(46,241 posts)
2. On the other end of the spectrum, while mayor, Giuliani insisted that
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 06:37 AM
Dec 2018

squeegee guys (who solicit you in sitting traffic to wash your windshield) were criminals who should be arrested, tried, and put in jail.

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