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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:48 AM Dec 2018

Another down day for the markets.

This might be the first down year in a decade or so. I believe there was one year where the Dow was down a smidgen but the broader markets were up a smidgen.

Trump might very well be running for re-election, if he makes it that far, during a bear market and an economic slowdown. If those events materialize I can easily see the Democrat winning the largest share of the popular vote since Lyndon Johnson in 1964 and the largest share of the Electoral College vote since Bill Clinton in 1992.

Hope is on the way.




ON EDIT - I am making an empirical observation, not a normative one. The markets don't give a hoot what any of us want or don't want.
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Another down day for the markets. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 OP
Not good to hope for a market downturn snowybirdie Dec 2018 #1
True, bull markets are good for good stuff, but even good markets correct themselves. empedocles Dec 2018 #2
Please see edit. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #8
This is so depressing oberliner Dec 2018 #3
Many retirement funds have been playing with more and more risk. empedocles Dec 2018 #6
Good point oberliner Dec 2018 #7
This down market today, is more significant than most recent past down days. empedocles Dec 2018 #4
Supply side economics is failing again Johnny2X2X Dec 2018 #5
The sugar high of the tax cuts is already wearing off. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #9

snowybirdie

(5,227 posts)
1. Not good to hope for a market downturn
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 10:57 AM
Dec 2018

The markets provide much of the retirement income for millions of investors and also help fund and grow the pension funds of cities, schools, and governmental services. Lets hope, instead, for a growing market and impeachment and/or resignation

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. True, bull markets are good for good stuff, but even good markets correct themselves.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:05 AM
Dec 2018

This market is an artificially inflated, unhealthy, shakey, market, and it will 'correct' no matter what we wish for.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Please see edit.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:18 AM
Dec 2018

Hoping for a bear market has as much effect as hoping my favorite team wins the Super Bowl or the gentleman in my avatar is resurrected, made young and healthy, and is still the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Good point
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:12 AM
Dec 2018

And often times the employees don't really have a good handle on how those funds are being managed.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. This down market today, is more significant than most recent past down days.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:09 AM
Dec 2018

Major indices are now clearly in the 10% correction mode. Moving averages are being penetrated, with momentum, along with myriad other indicators. Be careful.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. The sugar high of the tax cuts is already wearing off.
Mon Dec 17, 2018, 11:19 AM
Dec 2018

Every GDP quarterly figure has been lower than the one before.

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