Il Douche scrapes the bottom of the barrel; cites Washington & Jefferson "doing

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the same thing."

Trump Demands Stop To Emoluments Case As State AGs Subpoena 38 Witnesses
AP
By Josh Kovensky
December 17, 2018 2:34 pm

President Trump’s Justice Department is scrambling to stop two state attorneys general from procuring evidence about whether the President is violating the Constitution’s emoluments clause by filing an emergency appeal in the Fourth Circuit court.

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DOJ attorneys argue that the state attorneys general have a “fundamentally flawed” view of the Constitution and that the lower court judge, District Judge Peter Messitte, committed a “manifest abuse of discretion” in failing to allow an appeal of his decision denying a motion to dismiss.

The brief at times exudes a panicky tone regarding the impending responses to the 38 subpoenas that have been sent in the case. Trump’s lawyers write that “plaintiffs have already propounded thirty-eight subpoenas to third parties, including to five federal agencies,” since Judge Messitte ordered discovery to begin this month.

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Other elements of the brief descend into early U.S. history, going back to the plantations and land purchases made by the founding fathers and early presidents.

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“Several early Presidents owned plantations and continued to export cash crops overseas while in office, including Washington, who exported flour and cornmeal to ‘England, Portugal, and the island of Jamaica,’ and Thomas Jefferson, who exported tobacco to Great Britain,” the filing reads.

“Yet there is no evidence that they took steps to ensure that foreign governments were not among their customers,” the DOJ adds.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trump-demands-stop-to-emoluments-case-as-state-ags-subpoena-38-witnesses

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1. So that makes it OK?

Just because some other POTUS violated it and was not sued?

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2. Can a table take that kind of pounding?

When the facts are against you, pound the law.
When the law is against you, pound the facts.
When the law and the facts are against you, pound the table.

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3. That's his excuse?

The other guys did it too? Geez even a 10-year old has more sense (most of the time)

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4. He makes Washington want to puke

[TheBlackAdder]

5. Who would have put them to trial? The OAG was formed in 1789 & the DOJ was formed in 1870.

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The Office of the Attorney General was created by the Judiciary Act of 1789 (ch. 20, sec. 35, 1 Stat. 73, 92-93), as a one-person part-time position. The Act specified that the Attorney General was to be "learned in the law," with the duty "to prosecute and conduct all suits in the Supreme Court in which the United States shall be concerned, and to give his advice and opinion upon questions of law when required by the President of the United States, or when requested by the heads of any of the departments, touching any matters that may concern their departments."

However, the workload quickly became too much for one person, necessitating the hiring of several assistants for the Attorney General. As the work steadily increased along with the size of the new nation, private attorneys were retained to work on cases.

By 1870, after the end of the Civil War, the increase in the amount of litigation involving the United States had required the very expensive retention of a large number of private attorneys to handle the workload. A concerned Congress passed the Act to Establish the Department of Justice (ch. 150, 16 Stat. 162), creating "an executive department of the government of the United States" with the Attorney General as its head.

Officially coming into existence on July 1, 1870, the Department of Justice was empowered to handle all criminal prosecutions and civil suits in which the United States had an interest. To assist the Attorney General, the 1870 Act also created the Office of the Solicitor General, who represents the interests of the United States before the U.S. Supreme Court.

https://www.justice.gov/about

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6. So did England, Portugal and Jamaica come over here and buy all of Washington's cornmeal?

NO ok then. Did Great Britain sail on ova here and buy all of Jefferson's tobacco...or most of it at perhaps a higher rate to line his pocket? No, ok then so get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

[UTUSN]

7. He is driven to drag anybody/everybody to his gutter/sewer level.