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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor the First Time in More Than 20 Years, Copyrighted Works Will Enter the Public Domain
A beloved Robert Frost poem is among the many creations that are (finally) losing their protections in 2019
By Glenn Fleishman
SMITHSONIAN MAGAZINE
JANUARY 2019
Whose woods these are, I think Iwhoa! We cant quote any more of Robert Frosts Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening, because it is still under copyright as this magazine goes to press. But come January 1, 2019, we, you, and everyone in America will be able to quote it at length on any platform.
At midnight on New Years Eve, all works first published in the United States in 1923 will enter the public domain. It has been 21 years since the last mass expiration of copyright in the U.S.
That deluge of works includes not just Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening, which appeared first in the New Republic in 1923, but hundreds of thousands of books, musical compositions, paintings, poems, photographs and films. After January 1, any record label can issue a dubstep version of the 1923 hit Yes! We Have No Bananas, any middle school can produce Theodore Pratts stage adaptation of The Picture of Dorian Gray, and any historian can publish Winston Churchills The World Crisis with her own extensive annotations. Any artist can create and sell a feminist response to Marcel Duchamps seminal Dadaist piece, The Large Glass (The Bride Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors, Even) and any filmmaker can remake Cecil B. DeMilles original The Ten Commandments and post it on YouTube.
The public domain has been frozen in time for 20 years, and were reaching the 20-year thaw, says Jennifer Jenkins, director of Duke Law Schools Center for the Study of the Public Domain. The release is unprecedented, and its impact on culture and creativity could be huge. We have never seen such a mass entry into the public domain in the digital age. The last onein 1998, when 1922 slipped its copyright bondpredated Google. We have shortchanged a generation, said Brewster Kahle, founder of the Internet Archive. The 20th century is largely missing from the internet.
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MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Jan 1 every year should be the day copyright expires for ANYTHING published 25 years before.
PJMcK
(22,035 posts)Without copyright, what incentive is there for creators? The rest of the world recognizes that the right to copy belongs to the originators. Why would you deny Americans the same protections for their property?
Additionally, your suggestion would destroy whole industries: television, films, music, books and more.
In fact, the logic of your idea could be extended to other forms of property including real estate.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)If you can't make your money in 25 years, too bad
spanone
(135,831 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)spanone
(135,831 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)Disney killed the public domain with the current, ludicrously long copyright protection.
spanone
(135,831 posts)you wish to take their livelihood from them.
I won't support that.
kcr
(15,315 posts)What Disney does throwing their weight around manipulating US Copyright law so theirs never runs out serves NO ONE'S interest.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)...but for everyone else, copyright is for your lifetime plus 70 years.
For animation, I think they should make this rule: copyright on all works featuring a character resets if they produce at least 10 minutes of new animation containing the character every 10 years. Disneys new Ralph movie would have reset the clock on all the Princess movies. This will serve two purposes: they dont have to release Snow White or Rabbit of Seville into the public domain, and we get new Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny cartoons.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)It's about artists' rights to the use of their work as well. Does an artist want Donald Trump to abscond with the image of a painting or drawing they made in 1988 to use as a logo for his 2020 campaign? or for some cheap beer to copy it onto their label? It's their right: the image belongs to them. You can't just take it.
Same for composers, authors, filmmakers: you can't just steal their work. A painting, a piece of writing, a film, a song or concerto is not the image of it or the book of it or the DVD of it or the recording or sheet music of it. It's the idea of it, the creative thing itself. Just because you bought a painting for $30 million, you do not (by law) have the right to disseminate its image as you wish. That right is retained by the artist, for a reasonable time during his or her life and the rights of his or her heirs or estate. And not just for money: for the right to the uses to which the work is put.
Artists are workerslaborers in the true sense of the word. Have some respect for workers' rights.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Patents / copyrights for decades. Holding up the little guy as a meat shield to protect the big guy is what Repulicans do all the time.
I will settle for 50 years then it goes Public Domain.
And it is NOT theft.
DBoon
(22,363 posts)Copyright laws should not be amended everytime Steamboat Willie gets ready to enter public domain.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The roughly billion-plus years copyright is now running to is absurd to be sure, but 25 years is utterly silly. That means music and books created as recently as the 90s by bands and authors who are still working and relying on that back catalog for income would be shit out of luck.
Terrible idea.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)It doesnt seem reasonable to tell a person that theyve lost the right to control their own creations simply because an arbitrary number of years have passed.
I mean, I dont much care for Bob Dylan, but his shit is his shit he made it. Ive got no right whatsoever to start issuing my own editions of anything in his catalog that is fifty years old or more. Same with Jagger or McCartney or Jasper Johns; all living artists who deserve to maintain the right to disseminate and profit from their creation as they see fit.
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)To expire Jan 1st of the following year. No extensions.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)Getting too close to the mouse again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Term_Extension_Act
Fiendish Thingy
(15,605 posts)That's why public domain releases have been frozen.
Mickey Mouse was created in 1928, and the Disney corporation has fought long and hard to keep him from falling into the public domain. I don't expect any copyrighted films or characters from 1928 or later will be PD in the US (or probably the world)for a long, long time.
In the EU, recordings from 1962 and earlier are in the public domain. 1962 just happens to be the year the Beatles issued their first single (first album not released until 1963).
Here in Canada, musical compositions fall into the public domain 50 years after the composer's death. For example, Woody Guthrie's songs became PD this year, Jimi Hendrix's songs will be PD in 2021.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)... to produce new content without extending the protections to "passive" properties.
Also, something like Mickey Mouse could be protected under trademark.
I think it's reasonable for Disney to want to protect the Mouse.... that symbol IS after all, an active part of their branding and content.
But inactive/passive stuff? Nah.
kcr
(15,315 posts)sipping cocktails on lush patios while living off fat residual checks rolling in till the day they die. That is only a reality for a minority. While it's obviously necessary to financially protect intellectual property, there is no reason why works by people long dead need to be copyright protected. 50 years was more than enough time. It was pure greed on Disney's part.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Corporations are about making money. That's what they are for. I'm not, in general, against them advancing their interests. It is the job of the government to make sure the interests of the people are protected.
FWIW, Disney has continued to allow Lucasfilm's fairly generous approach to Sta Wars fan-created content and even merchandise. That's in strong contrast to CBS/Paramount approach, which is very oppressive.
So they are not COMPLETELY evil money-grubbers
smb
(3,471 posts)Something like "25 years, two options to renew for another 25 years for a total of up to 75 years" would allow reasonably long-term protection to works that were still valuable and remove the cloud of uncertainty from older obscure works (like early 20th century films whose copyright status is unclear, complicating attempts to transfer them to modern media and attempt to rekindle interest) by making it easier to tell for certain which ones are still in copyright (since anything still in copyright would have documentation not more than 25 years old).
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts)jalan48
(13,864 posts)beginning of January 2019. It was originally released in 1923. We can thank Sonny Bono for the extra 20 year wait.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)another extension wont impact me.
jalan48
(13,864 posts)Apparently the 45 pages needed to describe Proust getting out of bed in the morning was deemed excessive.
FSogol
(45,484 posts)things are broken and scattered, still alone, more persistent, more faithful, the smell and taste of things remain poised a long, long time like souls, ready to remind us, waiting, hoping for their moment amid the ruins of all the rest, and bear unfaltering in the tiny and almost impalpable drop of their essence the vast structure of recollection."
-"Remembrance of Things Past" by Marcel Proust
jalan48
(13,864 posts)FSogol
(45,484 posts)It is truly fascinating.
PS, I give the same advice to people who struggle with James Joyce's "Ulysses".
jalan48
(13,864 posts)stretches in Proust where I checked out but still read the words. That's why i was looking forward to the newer translation. I hoped it would be more readable that the 1920's translation.
wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Seriously, the stuff some people think of as good prose.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Anyone can redo the Ten Commandments.
FSogol
(45,484 posts)wuz da son of gawd."