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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:08 PM Dec 2018

Beto O'Rourke's liberal credentials questioned as he eyes 2020

Beto O'Rourke's liberal credentials questioned as he eyes 2020

https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2018/12/19/while-some-thought-him-too-left-others-say-beto-orourke-isnt-liberal-enough/2370486002/


AUSTIN, Texas — During this year's Texas Senate race, some home-state Democrats grumbled that Beto O'Rourke wasn't softening his liberal positions enough to finish a near-upset of Ted Cruz.

Now, as the outgoing congressman mulls a 2020 White House run, a small but vocal segment of activists is suggesting he's not liberal enough, arguing he's more about feel-good flash than commitment to values that will excite the party's base.

O'Rourke has long rejected the "progressive" label but also bristles at being called a centrist. He may not be able to steer clear of an ideological lane forever, though, should he commit to entering the potentially packed Democratic presidential primary field.

At issue even as he's still making up his mind are complaints from some liberals that O'Rourke racked up sizable donations from oil industry executives while challenging Cruz, refrained from endorsing federally subsidized debt-free college proposals and shied away from some versions of "Medicare-for-all" health care plans, an idea championed by Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, another possible early favorite in the 2020 race.
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Beto O'Rourke's liberal credentials questioned as he eyes 2020 (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 OP
Translation nycbos Dec 2018 #1
They certainly showed their desperation about Beto Cha Dec 2018 #2
How many times is this story going to be posted? PhrankT Dec 2018 #3
Until Sanders loses the nomination JustAnotherGen Dec 2018 #10
I like BETO & Respect his very progressively managed campaign PhrankT Dec 2018 #13
How many copies of this do we need to see today? MineralMan Dec 2018 #4
Wow, you're right. This one? PhrankT Dec 2018 #7
About as many times as we hear that Bernie supporters are afraid of Beto? Autumn Dec 2018 #9
I'll tell you. I have no favorite for 2020. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12
Have you heard? Bernie Sanders supporters are afraid of Beto! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2018 #21
I know!! Beto is scary! We are all terrified and Bernie looks like he's aged to 70 overnight! Autumn Dec 2018 #22
there may be those who view him as their new messiah come to save us from... msongs Dec 2018 #5
Not other Democrats, other fringe. PhrankT Dec 2018 #11
Beto is more "progressive" than Gabbard and Kamala Cha Dec 2018 #6
Thank You. Next? PhrankT Dec 2018 #8
Beto O'Rourke anti-environmental votes Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #14
I don't even like Beto for a presidential candidate ismnotwasm Dec 2018 #15
He was an okay Congressperson. He was a GREAT candidate. Bucky Dec 2018 #20
I'll take Beto as an actual Democrat over Sanders who is not one, elocs Dec 2018 #16
Forget their names and just look at their positions and their votes thesquanderer Dec 2018 #24
MEANIE!!! QC Dec 2018 #17
... Cha Dec 2018 #23
Yawn mcar Dec 2018 #18
"sizeable donations from oil executives" Bucky Dec 2018 #19

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
1. Translation
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:11 PM
Dec 2018

A small number of Sanders supporters are throwing a temper tantrum because they know Beto is way for charismatic and he will make Bernie look like the grumpy old man that he is.


For the record I never bought into the Beto hype in 2018 because I didn't think he had a chance.

 

PhrankT

(113 posts)
3. How many times is this story going to be posted?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:17 PM
Dec 2018

Is there a rule here about that?

It's beginning to feel like harrassment, in a creepy way.



JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
10. Until Sanders loses the nomination
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:29 PM
Dec 2018

And then if Beto wins it AND loses the presidency - It will go through another round of posting.

Eh - it's just pushing me towards him.


 

PhrankT

(113 posts)
13. I like BETO & Respect his very progressively managed campaign
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:33 PM
Dec 2018

I too feel I'm being pushed more towards him, just as you say.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. How many copies of this do we need to see today?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:21 PM
Dec 2018

I saw your comments in another thread about this from this morning. What didn't you say then? Oh, well, I guess it's time to start going after potential Democratic candidates already. That's really sad, given the news we're hearing today.

Nice...

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
9. About as many times as we hear that Bernie supporters are afraid of Beto?
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:29 PM
Dec 2018

I quit counting at 6.. from the same person.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. I'll tell you. I have no favorite for 2020.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:31 PM
Dec 2018

I'm not even thinking about 2020 at this point. I'm trying to figure out what we can do in 2019 with a Democratic House. I'm trying to see if there's a way to get Trump out of the People's House in DC.

It's not time for GD yet. Not even freaking close, but here we are. I'm not going to play, but I wanted to point out that it's too damned early to start trashing possible candidates. Way too early.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
14. Beto O'Rourke anti-environmental votes
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:35 PM
Dec 2018

- end the oil export ban

- drill in the Eastern Gulf of Mexico

- speed import/export of natural gas

- protect companies which start forest fires

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/20/beto-orourke-congressional-votes-analysis-capital-and-main

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
15. I don't even like Beto for a presidential candidate
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:40 PM
Dec 2018

and Bernie is a almost no-starter. He’s not going to get the nomination, but it will be interesting how far he makes it.

Why all the slams against Beto, I wonder? He’s left-center liberal from Texas. He’s done a good job from all I’ve read.

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
20. He was an okay Congressperson. He was a GREAT candidate.
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

Dude can talk off the cuff like nobody's business. Truly an inspirational thinker. He might well be superqualified for VP, a modern day Joe Biden, if you will. I'm still looking at him as possible for the top nomination.

elocs

(22,569 posts)
16. I'll take Beto as an actual Democrat over Sanders who is not one,
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 04:55 PM
Dec 2018

who prefers to use the party when it suits him but won't join it so he can call himself an outsider.

The BoBs are worried about the fresh, new faces on the horizon and so they must promote their smear campaigns under the guise of 'just informing us'.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
24. Forget their names and just look at their positions and their votes
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:51 PM
Dec 2018

and you may find yourself surprised at who you agree with more often, who better represents your ideals.

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
19. "sizeable donations from oil executives"
Thu Dec 20, 2018, 05:09 PM
Dec 2018

Does this writer have any idea what state Beto was running in?

You can be damn sure O'Rourke wouldn't've gotten any donations from oil company pacs. But there are shitloads of liberals working for the oil & gas industry. And moderates who just plain ol' loathe Ted Cruz. They get to write checks too. It's not the same as industry support.

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