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Have I seen too many bad movies or will the CIA take (Original Post) BigmanPigman Dec 2018 OP
Too many bad movies Generic Brad Dec 2018 #1
No one is going to save Cha Dec 2018 #2
I guess I have to hope that he strokes out then. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #3
Only people who are trying to do good get "cleaned up". BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2018 #4
He probably won't stroke out than either. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #5
with advances in medical science, probably 130 anarch Dec 2018 #10
Normally...but remember Bernie Madoff... BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #12
Because he stole from rich people Horse with no Name Dec 2018 #22
Exactly! FiveGoodMen Dec 2018 #36
No...200 if you believe his "Doctor" in the WH PCIntern Dec 2018 #18
I very much doubt the CIA whacked Lincoln... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #26
I didn't say they did. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2018 #35
No, they did. They've been able to declassify the emails from the time They're proof. Squinch Dec 2018 #37
I know PatSeg Dec 2018 #6
You are not the only one... HipChick Dec 2018 #7
I've a suspicion there's a plan in place adVance democracy Dec 2018 #8
I tend to want to believe PatSeg Dec 2018 #11
This IS Unprecedented adVance democracy Dec 2018 #13
Yes, the optimist in me will be hoping PatSeg Dec 2018 #14
This is the second time I've seen you advance this "theory" here. cwydro Dec 2018 #9
I guess someone to grant my wish BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #17
So you're advocating for a government agency to illegally remove a president? cwydro Dec 2018 #19
Don't worry, BP ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #21
When Hillary was on her book tour (part two) BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #24
Germany is going to invade our country? cwydro Dec 2018 #34
No more idiotic than what we have right now ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #38
Fiction. This is real life. Roughly half of America's voters Hortensis Dec 2018 #15
Yes, nearly half of the electorate did vote for Trump elocs Dec 2018 #16
I'm thinking that, if Trump is removed by electoral defeat... regnaD kciN Dec 2018 #28
In 2016, Trump was prepared to lose and then launch into a massive voter fraud elocs Dec 2018 #29
Oh, well. They're a minority. Societies have always Hortensis Dec 2018 #39
Thank you. cwydro Dec 2018 #20
Well, Trump is certainly a "clear and present danger." allgood33 Dec 2018 #23
My MIL says "hell yeah!" Ilsa Dec 2018 #25
I am also hoping he will piss off Putin... BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #27
I will do my part to "take care of" situations in "top leadership". JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #30
Yep...and RESIST in the meantime. BigmanPigman Dec 2018 #31
And pray for the health of RBG. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2018 #32
Is this really sarisataka Dec 2018 #33

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
1. Too many bad movies
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:52 AM
Dec 2018

No one is going to save us from this nightmare. And if the spooks or the military jumped in, we would be living a new nightmare.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,491 posts)
4. Only people who are trying to do good get "cleaned up".
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 12:57 AM
Dec 2018

Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm etc.

It’s very rare that the bad guys get it.

BigmanPigman

(51,587 posts)
5. He probably won't stroke out than either.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:00 AM
Dec 2018

He'll probably live to be 103 just to make us suffer even longer. Life really sucks sometimes.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
10. with advances in medical science, probably 130
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 07:36 AM
Dec 2018

but only if he's not held accountable for his crimes; if it gets to the point that he's facing incarceration or otherwise about to get his just deserts, then he'll probably die before actually paying any kind of debt to society...b/c you know the man welches on his debts, and that's just how things seem to work.

BigmanPigman

(51,587 posts)
12. Normally...but remember Bernie Madoff...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:31 PM
Dec 2018

He is in the pokey for life. I hear he is running a ponsi scheme in there too...like Springtime For Hitler.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,491 posts)
35. I didn't say they did.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 07:18 PM
Dec 2018

I said only good people get assassinated. The CIA didn’t exist in Lincoln’s time obviously but there certainly was a conspiracy.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
6. I know
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:05 AM
Dec 2018

I keep picturing the military or the CIA intervening, because that is what I've seen in movies and television. It is rather scary that we don't seem to have a reasonable answer to this nightmare, unless republicans get their shit together.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
11. I tend to want to believe
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 11:39 AM
Dec 2018

that behind the scenes, there are rational voices working together to prevent a major disaster, but it often looks more like Doctor Strangelove. It appears that nothing has prepared us for what is happening right now.

 
13. This IS Unprecedented
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:32 PM
Dec 2018

But if there's one thing I've observed about us loud, fat, arrogant Americans, the one thing we excel in, light-years ahead of every other country on this planet, is innovation, of thinking on our feet. I'm confident there IS a "last resort" solution in place, and we're likely to find out in the next two weeks.



PS: I too will be supporting Biden for POTUS in '20. The stakes are too damn high for ideological "purity!"

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
14. Yes, the optimist in me will be hoping
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 01:54 PM
Dec 2018

for the innovation, thinking on our feet, "last resort" scenario (I remember Watergate), but meanwhile, the pragmatist in me is preparing for the worst.

We have so many great choices for the next presidential election and I agree, this is no time for ideological purity. This is about survival. What happens here could affect the entire planet. I don't think I ever appreciated what a major influence we were in the world. A delicate balance is being unraveled and there doesn't seem to be any other country capable up taking up the reins.

If Joe Biden is up for it in 2020, he could be our best choice. No time for on-the-job training.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
9. This is the second time I've seen you advance this "theory" here.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 07:30 AM
Dec 2018

Just what is it that you think they might do?

BigmanPigman

(51,587 posts)
17. I guess someone to grant my wish
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 03:38 PM
Dec 2018

and say, "Yes, they will swoop in and save the day/country". I am getting desperate for a miracle.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. So you're advocating for a government agency to illegally remove a president?
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:13 PM
Dec 2018

I’d consider that very unwise.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. Don't worry, BP
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:33 PM
Dec 2018

I got in trouble for advancing the theory that Germany would invade our country and put things right. The nay sayers told me that would be a declaration of war. They forgot that Russia has already invaded our country at the highest levels and has been waging war on us for the last two and a half years.

BigmanPigman

(51,587 posts)
24. When Hillary was on her book tour (part two)
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 05:53 PM
Dec 2018

She said that what Putin did was an act of war...cyber war and attacked our country/democracy through that means. That is treason in my opinion. We were attacked and have been fighting for 2 1/2 years as you said. This is warfare in the modern tech era.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
38. No more idiotic than what we have right now
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 02:15 AM
Dec 2018

And at the time, Merkel had just stood up to Donwald in a way that none of your elected officials had ever done. Don't see how that amuses you, that no one in our country is willing to do what it takes to get rid of a kakistocracy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Fiction. This is real life. Roughly half of America's voters
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:03 PM
Dec 2018

elected Trump president, currently want him to remain in power, and are mostly still supporting all these moves. That's reality, and we shouldn't get so carried away by our own worries that we forget that.

Or forget to realize that a large majority of Americans, including Democrats, would be rightfully horrified at the idea of an intelligence service plot to overthrow democracy by assassinating the president.



elocs

(22,569 posts)
16. Yes, nearly half of the electorate did vote for Trump
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 02:17 PM
Dec 2018

and they aren't going anywhere even if Trump does.
If Trump is removed by a coup, they will not go gently into that good night and frankly there will be millions on the Left who will have a problem with that as well because once we go down that road, where would it ever stop?
This experiment in democracy of the USA will be over.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
28. I'm thinking that, if Trump is removed by electoral defeat...
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:07 PM
Dec 2018

...they STILL won’t surrender quietly — they’ll accept their leader’s claim that the results were due to “massive voter fraud,” and may well take up arms to prevent the “Democrat coup.”

I’m reminded of the pundit who said that, when it finally becomes clear that extreme conservatism won’t play in a democracy, the True Believers won’t abandon conservatism — they’ll abandon democracy.

elocs

(22,569 posts)
29. In 2016, Trump was prepared to lose and then launch into a massive voter fraud
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:17 PM
Dec 2018

conspiracy which he did anyways. This would happen again if he survives to run in 2020 and he will inflame his rabid followers to violence but deny it was his fault at all.
They will view anything negative that happens to Trump as making him a martyr.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Oh, well. They're a minority. Societies have always
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:45 AM
Dec 2018

always had a duty to control the potential evils that could rise among them, as we do now. The midterms showed that majorities (the same majorities who elected Obama and Hillary plus others, including some who didn't bother to vote before) are seeing how we've been going wrong and beginning to do their duty.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. Thank you.
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 04:14 PM
Dec 2018

I won’t even write the word for the action that the OP is advocating.

It doesn’t belong on DU.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
25. My MIL says "hell yeah!"
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 05:58 PM
Dec 2018

I told we are still a little too far away from that happening, but I could be wrong.

Maybe CIA will slip something in his diet coke.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
30. I will do my part to "take care of" situations in "top leadership".
Fri Dec 21, 2018, 06:20 PM
Dec 2018

I'll vote in 2020. I have no clue who I'm voting for, but he (or she) will have a "D" next to the name.



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