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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI know this is Trump, but I genuinely don't get the strategy here
He's forcing a shutdown on the week in which about 90% of Federal workers are already on leave. The 24th was already a "gimme" day. Once January 3rd rolls around, he has a Democratic house which means the new starting bill is going to be much worse for him than the current one. He loses leverage with every day but he's acting like he's gaining leverage. What does he expect to happen?
Baltimike
(4,143 posts)Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Baltimike
(4,143 posts)and he is our enemy.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,692 posts)Actually, most wild animals are more strategic than Trump.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)When you get caught in a web of lies, how do you keep track? So he thinks, hell with it, I'm just going to go with my gut.
Nay
(12,051 posts)only dimly aware of the complicated nature of a society, a country, a world. It's all about what he wants in the moment. Pathetic.
AwakeAtLast
(14,124 posts)dameatball
(7,398 posts)underpants
(182,803 posts)and there are DHS, border guards, and the Coast Guard who will still have to work. There's no guarantee of them being retroactively paid for furlough either.
Siwsan
(26,262 posts)In fact, his intellect is jealous of a 20 watt bulb.
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)That's what deplorables, in their infant wisdom, think is good for the country. Dump loves their adoration so he does what he can to keep them happy and showing up at his Klan meetings, er, rallies.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,345 posts)The wrath of deplorables, as stoked by Limbaugh and Coulter, scared Baby Donnie.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It is solely about imposing his will on the craven little snivellers in the Republican caucus. Trump doesn't know from pyrrhic victories, he delights in winning no matter what the cost down the road. The simplest presidential tasks become forced death marches of legislation because Trump has to be the hero of every narrative, succeeding against long odds, and proving again that his doubters are just a bunch of jealous losers.
When Trump doesn't win, he just flushes the episode down the memory hole and cranks up the next "crisis." A surprising number of people who should know better are taken in by this predictable dumbshow time and again.
RKP5637
(67,108 posts)entire herd are completely exposed with the investigations. And, his tax return will likely expose him as a miserable failure with significant indebtedness to Russia. He's also a coward and a stooge. That's the best I can say of the twerp!
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)Any shutdown causes disruption, discord, and distrust in the government and politics. Even the threat of a shutdown does this. And that's mission accomplished for this traitor.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...where the country starts to collapse into chaos at which time, he can declare a state of emergency and get the power to essentially rule by decree for the duration. And Ill bet thats what Vlad and his other strongman pals are urging him to do.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)A collapsed economy is bad for their career prospects.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)This is what I think too
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)He knows that is his only hope once the Mueller hammer comes down. He is counting on his base to rise up to such an extent the GOP will be afraid to kick him out of office.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)No one's saying "Pelosi kicked Dump's balls all over the oval" today. No one's speculating about Ivanka's emails, Putin's getting his way in Syria, 17 Trump-related investigations, etc.
Trumper tantrums are how he changes the narrative because he doesn't like seeing negative press about himself. Now he feels important as opposed to cornered.
It's still a ridiculously stupid and short-sighted idea, but that's also what he does.
Dave in VA
(2,037 posts)he only wants the fight for the wall. Just my $0.02
budkin
(6,703 posts)And he'll continue to do it until he's out of office.
JCMach1
(27,558 posts)Saving him from impeachment... REPUBLICANS WOULD DANCE TO THE MONEY PIPER AND SEND HIM PACKING OTHERWISE.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Declare bankruptcy and cash out, stiffing your creditors.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)just like to watch the World burn.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)"Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! I just do things."
edhopper
(33,579 posts)a comic book villain.
Though dumber than most.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)He shuts down the government, so he looks tough.
Congress does nothing else in 2018.
Then he makes a deal to restart the government but doesn't get his wall.
Then he blames Democrats for the next 2 years.
Cha
(297,220 posts)applegrove
(118,654 posts)Republicans so they don't vote to impeach him in the months to come.
k8conant
(3,030 posts)without him.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)Worst December on the stock market since the Great Depression.