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douglas9

(4,358 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:45 AM Dec 2018

Walmart secured a patent to eavesdrop on shoppers and employees

Listening to everything from rustling bags to register beeps

Walmart was granted a patent this week for a new listening system for its retail stores that, if ever deployed, may make some employees and shoppers uncomfortable. According to the filing and claims, it’s “an example system for capturing and analyzing sounds in a shopping facility.” In other words, it’s a kind of surveillance system.

For example, this proposed listening system would be able to detect the rustling of shopping bags and the beeps at a register. Walmart could use this tech as an anti-theft solution to find out if number of items in a transaction and number of bags used checks out. It sounds like a reasonable application of technology in a major retail store, right?

That’s where the intrigue stops and the anxiety begins. The system wouldn’t just be an anti-theft tool, but a way to also monitor employee interactions with customers and possibly monitor what customers are saying in real time about products. “Additionally, the sound sensors can capture audio of conversations between guests and an employee stationed at the terminal,” the patent reads. “The system can process the audio of the conversation to determine whether the employee stationed at the terminal is greeting guests.”


https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/21/18151738/walmart-eavesdrop-patent-customer-employee-privacy

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elocs

(22,574 posts)
2. If I invite you into my house do you have an expectation of privacy?
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:58 AM
Dec 2018

Well I guess you don't when Walmart invites you into their house as well.

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
3. changing the subject but referring the rustling of the bags...
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 09:59 AM
Dec 2018

A few years back I got hearing aids--had to save up a few years. anyway, when the audiologist was finished adjusting, etc. she put the container in a bag on the counter and was saying goodbye by the door. I picked up the bag and rolled over the top so the container would not drop out--I had the new hearing aids in). I heard this noise-- a rustling of the paper bag--and was a bit startled as I wondered what it was -I realized was was coming from my hands rolling down the paper bad. I was amazed!! I never knew or did not realize I could not --in the past- hear noises such as a rustling of the paper bag. simple pleasures are the best


anyway--another surprise--I heard my blinkers as I exited the parking lot.

Back to the oP-- Technology is good==when used for the good. More surveillance is not what we need

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
4. i could see the financial benefit for a retailer to hear what customers think as they move thru the
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:01 AM
Dec 2018

store...
what displays work which don't
areas that are messy, need to be restocked.
staff that are rude...

i can see why.....

not good for us but i can see why

TheBlackAdder

(28,194 posts)
6. In NJ, home & commercial security cameras are not to have audio. You can film not record voice.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:20 AM
Dec 2018

.


How would that work here, or in other states that prevent eavesdropping/recording of third-party voices?

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brush

(53,778 posts)
7. "1984" is here. We already have the cameras everywhere. It won't take much...
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 10:26 AM
Dec 2018

to sync them up with the audio technology. We already have the cameras in out homes with the doorbell security camera systems.

Privacy could soon be a concept only in one's head.

brush

(53,778 posts)
11. Yeah, remember the Russian comedian Yakov Smirnoff who used to crack that...
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 11:35 AM
Dec 2018

in America we listen to the radio but in Russia the radio listens to us?

Same thing can happen here with TVs, if it already hasn't.

2naSalit

(86,610 posts)
9. Yet another reason I
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 11:14 AM
Dec 2018

choose not to shop at that store chain, I don't care what they have to offer, which seems to be nothing since I have never seen anything I needed to buy in one.

Igel

(35,307 posts)
10. tv have this ability.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 11:35 AM
Dec 2018

Alexa. There's nothing to keep a phone from doing this. The tech's out there, all they have to do is make it happen.

I'm signed into Google on my phone. It monitors everything I do on my phone (one version) or could (another version of the threat).

Let's see ... I don't care about Google, netflix, hulu, or Amazon knowing everything I do in my house, bedroom, and even when I'm taking a dump.

But I'm supposed to be incensed that technology that's intended to be implemented near the check out counters at Walmart *could* be used to--gasp, swoon, revive--monitor me when I've entered Walmart-space?

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
16. We'll know what's up when we see "English Only" signs at the checkouts.
Sat Dec 22, 2018, 07:43 PM
Dec 2018



Or if a voice comes over a speaker saying "would you repeat that please?"

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