I just told my wife we cannot visit her sister for Christmas. Trump related.

[shockey80]

Her sister and her two daughters hate Trump. Her husband is a Trump nut. My wife asked me if I could keep my mouth shut about Trump if we went to visit them. I laughed my ass off and said there is no way in hell I could keep my mouth shut.

My wife said Ok, we won't go. I told her we can visit her sister and nieces when her husband is not around. He travels a lot for his job.

When this Trump nightmare ends I am going to be brutal to all the Trump voters I know. I will give no quarter. I have been sitting here like a rattlesnake for two years, ready to strike. When I strike I will tell all the Trump voters I know who and what they are. I will not hold back. If they hate me for what I say to them, I will wear that as a Medal Of Honor.

[guillaumeb]

1. It is truly sad that the political dialogue has become so toxic.

I blame the GOP.

[SkyDaddy7]

47. I haven't decided if...

My approach to the TRUMP HUMPIN TRUMP CULT members in my family will be anger & disgust or if I will approach them like children methodically pointing out how they were manipulated, lied to & used as useful idiots???

...It will probably be a case by case basis.

[guillaumeb]

54. If there is no possibility of changing their views,

my advice would be to avoid the topic.

[LBM20]

127. I don't bring it up. But if a Trump Lover does, then I UNLEASH HELL ON THEM!

[SkyDaddy7]

131. Of course!

...Sometimes I vent here DU & don’t mark my comment with a tag...Especially on days Trump & his wrecking ball have been busy. Sorry for confusion.🤗😊.

[Hortensis]

51. In this case I put the responsibility on Shockey and ask him to

reconsider. I can't approve this attitude or behavior, now or in the future. Imo, it's neither moral nor sensible. Half the nation will eventually be ex-trumpsters. Hating, rejecting and being generally abusive toward them is not the answer. In fact, imo it'd be virtually indistinguishable from being trumpish.

Shockey, please give your wife my good wishes and tell her I think it's reasonable and responsible to expect you to reach into yourself for wisdom and decency and to exercise the self discipline to keep your mouth shut for a couple days. Not just an investment in family and future, but in yourself.

In other words, big fucking deal. It's really not much for any decent person to give.

Liberal progressive Democrat here.

[lancelyons]

67. Perhaps you could spend some of your good will making trump lovers more respectable.

Rather than preventing a decent person from blasting trump supporters for their blind support of a man that is ruining our country.

Trump does this because the trump supporters are OK with him doing it. This nightmare is on the backs of the trump supporter as well.

They have responsibilities for their decisions.

[Hortensis]

81. We ALL have responsibility for our decisions.

Not just them. Labels don't make people good or despicable, attitudes and actions do.

[Martin Eden]

75. +1

If we keep at each other's throats, those who want to divide and conquer us have won.

[Doodley]

77. Well said.

[Hortensis]

82. Yes, and it IS all about dividing and conquering the electorate.

[Martin Eden]

87. A wise man once said

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

160 years later, it still holds true. Divided, the American people cannot stand and work together for our own common good.

The money changers in the temple don't want that to happen.

[hatrack]

113. Guess what - it's none of your business . . .

It's Shockey's decision to deal with family members as he sees fit.

[pintobean]

115. Then, he shouldn't post about it on a discussion board.

[hatrack]

117. Ooh, sick burn, Brah!

Which changes the accuracy of my post not at all.

[pintobean]

118. Lol. Well, by your reasoning

what Hortensis, or anyone else here, posts is none of your business.

[hatrack]

119. Not the post, the decision on how to handle family dynamics

If you can't tell the difference, condolences.

[The Liberal Lion]

120. Why should he keep his mouth shut

Silence = Death!

[maddiemom]

129. Half the nation supported Trump? Hyperbole I hope.

[OhNo-Really]

52. Oddly, the trump cultists proudly touts sacrificing family relations for Trump, I kid you not

I lurk on twitter (had to join because of all the DU posts w/tweet link only that I couldn't read 🙄

This one trump cheerleader, cult instigator, tweeter @inittowinit007 is rabid 79k followers
actually inciting followers

Perhaps Zealots is a better description, as many seem to be itching to violently attack any who do not bow to der leader.

[gordianot]

59. From what I have directly experienced tough guy Trumpers are cowards.

I do not elaborate when presented with a Trumper but: “The only thing I hate worse than Trump are the (adj+people) who voted for him.” Used the line every time when addressed by a known advocate of individual 1.

[OhNo-Really]

69. I don't engage at all because blood pressure.

I am just relying in the FBI to keep track of the people like above twitter reference inciting people to hateful harmful behaviors.

[Lars39]

85. My husband outed us as Democrats to his family.

His mother was taking it out on me in her trademark passive aggressive way. I figure her next step will be openly bad mouthing us and then shunning us.

[olegramps]

130. As FDR responded, "I welcome their hatred."

[Ohiogal]

2. Some of them are just so completely brainwashed

they'll defend him even if he's dragged off to prison in handcuffs.

They are a cult.

[GoneOffShore]

20. My usual comment on FB to Tr**Putinista's is:

'Tr**Putin could come to your house, crap on the rug, shoot your dog, do your wife, and then you'd ask if he'd like a BJ.'

That usually shuts them up.

[dchill]

23. Because they know it's true.

[bitterross]

29. Yes, they will defend him as a martyr

You are right. They are a brainwashed cult. They will defend him in the face of otherwise incontrovertible evidence. They could stand next to him as he shoots a random person on 5th Avenue and they'd defend him by saying the random person deserved it for being there. If they hadn't been in the way of Trump's bullet, nothing would have happened.

When the Muller investigation is over and it is clear he and his organization are guilty of RICO crimes they will stick with the excuse it was all a political witch hunt. Not grasping the irony the GOP-led investigations of Hillary actually were political witch hunts.

[Clash City Rocker]

102. When Trump goes down...

What you’ll hear from those people is “What about Hillary? She did worse things.” And then they will list things that she supposedly did, with no proof she did them (because, of course, she didn’t do them). I have more logical arguments with my three-year-old daughter than I’ve ever had with a Trump supporter.

[oberliner]

3. "I am going to be brutal to all the Trump voters I know"

Good lord.

[LanternWaste]

135. Almost as goodly and lordly as calling people 'delusional'

simply for having an onion different than yours. An accurate opinion different than yours as it turned out.

Good Lord, book II - Revenge of Self-Righteousness.

[oberliner]

136. Great point

Thanks for sharing that.

[cwydro]

4. So you're the boss of the family, huh?

Interesting.

[WhiskeyWulf]

55. I was thinking the same thing.

If he doesn't want to go, fine. He has no right to tell his wife where she can or can't go. Disgusted.

[cwydro]

74. Yep.

Sad for her.

[ProfessorGAC]

90. Um, The Wife Was The Decider

Don't think you read it right.
Clearly says wife says " we won't go"

[WhiskeyWulf]

93. That's the wife giving into the inappropriate demand. nt

[FoxNewsSucks]

126. I think telling someone they

have to keep their mouth shut and listen to a stupid tRump-humper prattle on is an inappropriate demand.

[kcr]

95. Seriously? n/t

[cwydro]

128. The OP is clear, "I just told my wife we cannot go."

Looks like YOU read it wrong.

[ProfessorGAC]

132. Nope

I quoted the poster directly

[cwydro]

133. So did I.

[The Liberal Lion]

122. The wife made the decision

[treestar]

100. the post title doesn't really match the

content.

[Joe941]

105. This. Wife wanted to go but decided to keep the peace...

Resentment builds...

[bearsfootball516]

5. My father-in-law is a Trump but, but I'll put up with him for my wife's sake.

The rest of her family isn’t, but he is. And she loves her family very much, so if I have to listen to him say something about Trump or Democrats once or twice, I’ll do it for her sake.

I’m not going to deny her the pleasure of seeing her family just because I don’t agree with her dad’s political views.

[cwydro]

39. Good for you.

[Doodley]

78. I am in the same position and do as you do for my wife. The only thing I will not shut up for is

when they express their bigoted views towards people of color, gays or Muslims, etc.

[Just a Weirdo]

104. Inlaws are Fox watching Trumpsters

I'm going to have to deal with it for 10 days starting tomorrow. The MIL cant cook worth crap.

[billymerk]

6. yep

Sometimes tough love is necessary.

[Power 2 the People]

7. LOL...you know it!

[shockey80]

12. Love It.

[roamer65]

8. Just wait until tax bills hit home in the higher SALT states.

We haven’t seen truly brutal yet.

Dump lovers in those states are gonna hafta recant or move.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. Way to take a stand. But why wait for the Trump term to end? Why not unload on them right now?

Is this worth it for your wife?

[shockey80]

15. I am waiting for the final results of the Mueller investigation like everyone else.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. And in the meantime, you can't keep your shit together for your wife's sake?

[cwydro]

35. Thank you.

It seems he expects wifey to do as he says, eh?

[Grokenstein]

49. Yeah, this part in particular makes him sound like a real control freak. /s

My wife asked me if I could keep my mouth shut about Trump if we went to visit them. I laughed my ass off and said there is no way in hell I could keep my mouth shut.

My wife said Ok, we won't go.

[shockey80]

10. Yes, I am going to brutal to the Trump voters I know, for this reason.

They have put all of our lives in jeopardy. If you don't believe this could end in a horrible, catastrophic way, you are as foolish as the Trump voters. Trump has put the world order in jeopardy. 70 years of blood and sacrifice to create a world that does not destroy itself and Trump has trashed it in every possible way.

[maryellen99]

32. I think a lot of trump supporters want trump to use Nuclear Weapons nt

[aeromanKC]

101. End Times

They are jonesing for the End Times.

[maryellen99]

103. Yep...and trump is surrounded by end timers in his administration nt

[guruoo]

56. This will only serve to make them more intrenched.

I've found that simply admitting they were wrong (so fooled) is the one hardest thing for them to get past.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

106. You have a point... Trump voters can go fuck themselves!!

[The Liberal Lion]

124. I agree with you

I think a lot of us liberals and progressives better acknowledge what is really happening in our country and the world. Too many are oh so willing to bury their heads in the sand and place false hope in an electoral system that has TWICE now in modern times been gamed to deny the people of their true choice. Are we lefties so gottdamn foolish to place hope once again in this broken system? I'm glad to see that you for one do not belong to this foolish contingent within our ranks. I will not leave any lefty behind regardless of their displayed naivete, but I hope when the time is right they will rise to the level of action needed and not just wither in fear.

[demmiblue]

11. ...

[edhopper]

13. Why is it always up to us sane people

to hold our tongues?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

58. Because we can.

Most of us.

[pintobean]

14. I'm sure they're all terrified

Why is it you have to wait?

[shockey80]

16. I can't call them traitors until Mueller proves it.

Get it.

[pintobean]

19. Hmmm. After reading post #10

it seems time would be of the essence.

[Doodley]

80. What is it exactly that you are trying to achieve?

[pintobean]

97. recs

[sarisataka]

17. It sounds like you have

Your wife well controlled.

Our family has taken a different route and when we visit her father we do not discuss politics.

I do wonder why a rattlesnake needs to wait to strike. It is odd that you can restrain yourself around acquaintances but not family. What is the difference if a person will hate you now or later?

[shockey80]

21. How did you know I have my wife chained to the stove, barefoot and naked.

WTF.

[Oppaloopa]

68. I agree with you. They do need to be showed the error of their ways so they never do it again.

[Croney]

22. When I feel like being brutal, I remember that these people have the perfect comeback.

"I just didn't like Hillary."

That reminds me that these people are two fries short of a Happy Meal, and my words would be wasted. They are beyond help or hope.

[TexasBushwhacker]

40. But I don't feel being "brutal" helps

When someone who voted for Trump and has suffered consequences they didn't anticipate, like farmers for example, I just pull out the old Dr Phil-ism "How's that workin' out for ya?"

Al Gore lost in 2000, to some extent, because Bush had the good old boy, rather have a beer with him likeability that Gore lacked. And look what it got us. While Bill and Hillary, and Obama for that matter, are not perfect people or politicians, they are all SMART AS HELL and I like that. The job of POTUS is far too important to be reduced to a popularity contest.

[Baltimike]

24. Yep. Every. last. word. nt

[erronis]

25. Remember, these people that could support trump and the repugs will also support the next

round of liars, megalomaniacs, know-nothings, science deniers.

For me, the earlier I lose contact, the better.

[Racerdog1]

26. Don't wait!

I love fucking with these Reich wing assholes. I live where there are plenty of them. Makes my day when I can piss some of these dumb ass losers off.

[mtngirl47]

27. In our family we have spent the past 3 years talking about

the weather, the kids, and distant relatives when we get together. My parents are in their 80's and I refuse to miss even one event or visit because of Trump or any kind of politics.

They all drank the kool-aid and I'm sure they all agree when I'm not around that I am a Liberal Socialist Hippy!

[at140]

28. Blood relatives are much more important than politics and Trump

Get together for the Holidays to enhance bonds of love between you and your relatives.
Do not let Trump or politics act as a wedge. Trump will be gone soon, your relatives will be there until you are living.

[Goodheart]

30. I can't bear to be around my trumpian brothers and sisters

even when there's an unwritten rule that trump as a topic is off limits.

The problem is that the hush rule, itself, hangs over all of us like a toxic fog... he's there even when he's not mentioned. It's pretty uneasy, and I'd rather just stay home.

[Roy Rolling]

31. Settle Down Beavis

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. If you want revenge, ignore them and let them stew when we celebrate Trump leaving in shame. When you show them anger, anger is an easy emotion for them to deal with---they just spout Trump lies. Silence turns their anger into acid, and it will destroy them from within.

[ProudLib72]

33. You must be civil! You must reach out to them!

They are poor misguided souls is all.

[.99center]

34. Cool story bro. N/t

[obamanut2012]

61. +1

[auntAgonist]

116. Cool Story ? ? Are you saying he fabricated (lied) it? I don't know how you can assume that if that

is what you mean by your comment to the OP.

[W T F]

36. It's time for the gloves to come off. This is a call to arms. Our liberty and American way of life..

are in extreme danger.

[ginnyinWI]

37. it's better not to give T-boy the airtime.

Really, don't let him intrude. The relatives we visit are Dems but we still don't want to rag on and on about him. There are better things to talk about, like grandkids and stuff.


If the Trumpie starts in, say, "Aw you don't want to talk about politics at Christmas, do you??" Seems to me they'd all be wanting to avoid the subject anyway.

[dameatball]

38. My son-in-law is a Trump supporter but he knows to keep his mouth shut if I visit. I return

the favor out of respect for my daughter. The problem is when his brother and sister-in-law come over. They only live two houses away and they are head over heels Trumpies and seem to always bring it up. Once they show up the countdown for my exit begins.
My brother is also a die-hard Republican and we have had it out several times. Over this past year we never discuss politics whatsoever. I feel no need to constantly battle with someone who will not change. Once Trump is thrown out I will just smile a little larger when they are around They will know why. I will just be happy that the world is a better place and don't need to rub their noses in it.

[lostnfound]

41. That sucks that you want to rob your wife and her sister and nieces of critical bonding time

Don’t you love them more than you hate trump?

One never knows when opportunities to see each other are gone.

[tammywammy]

42. This OP is just sad. n/t

[Kurt V.]

43. i have a few tRumpets in my family.

when this shit show is over i'll treat them same as always. Speaking my mind and loving them.

[AlexSFCA]

44. I hate how trump supporters make everything political

it is impossible to avoid talking politics with them. They manage to turn every topic political- sports, movies, tv shows, health issues, traveling, even food....

[sagetea]

45. Don't let

them make you a monster.

The saddest thing I ever saw while fighting fires, was in the Nevada desert, sometimes the animals you find are mummified. It breaks your heart, it really does. The saddest one, however, was a rattle snake, coiled and striking, it was mummified. You see, they strike at what they don't understand or fear or scares them, they can't distinguish exactly what they are striking out at.

You can learn from everything and the lesson I got from that memorable fire, was be careful about striking out because, well, you just might hurt someone you love.

Ho`
sage

[FirstLight]

64. ...

[samnsara]

46. our family has literally split apart because of politics

[Liberty Belle]

48. Don't ruin the holidays for your wife.

See if the Trump-loving relative will agree to just not discuss politics while you're there. He;'ll be gone one of these days, but family is forever. The rest of the family members no doubt want to see your wife and vice versa; I would not let Trump tear a family apart.

[obamanut2012]

63. He has no right to tell his wife that anyway

She has a right to visit her family, most of which he admits hate Trump, without him guilting his wife into staying home.

He can keep his ass home and wish his wife well and on her way.

[Persondem]

50. Why wait? Seems like there's plenty of ammo already. nt

[iluvtennis]

53. My brother is a trump lover. Last Christmas we really got into it. It was a lot of yelling and

screaming back and forth and 4-letter words. My sister and mother and one other brother were on my side. My other two brothers stayed out of it. Anyway, it was not a good situation. I promised my mom to never discuss politics again at family gatherings. I do that for her sake's. I treat my brother cordially for my mom.

[47of74]

57. No real Branch Trumpvidians in my family

So far I haven’t had to tell any family members to fuck off over Herr Orange.

[obamanut2012]

60. You have no right to tell your wife that

Actually, how dare you tell your wife that?!

Stay home if they are that bad -- I used to stay home from a lot of in-law occasions when I was married because they were so horrible people, but I never told my wife she couldn't go and celebrate with them, and she did. They were her family.

It is especially weird and appalling you told her that since most of her family loathes Trump, too.

Apologize to your wife and wish her a good time when she visits her family, and you stay home, do whatever you want to do, and learn not to talk and treat your wife that way. Because you shouldn't.

[TJKatd]

62. In my family...

I'd guess 80% of them have no interest in politics. (I know, right!) But, the 20% of us are quite passionate, and not all in agreement. One Christmas during Clinton/Lewisnky, it got so bad the night ended early, and my mom (apolitical) got very upset to the point she didnt talk to me until July the following year.

The political animals of the family decided we would no longer discuss politics at family gatherings. To be honest, it got to where it consumed things, and a couple times, someone left early because they were angry.

We've found something that works for our family. We are willing to give up our political passions for a few hours a year for the sake of family. And to be honest, I look forward to those gatherings notwithstanding.

Fortunately, I dont have anyone who's racist, homophobic or anything like that. We're talking a different ballgame if that were the case.

I love them all despite some are wrong with their politics!

[Oppaloopa]

65. I could never never live with a trump lover. She must have a horrible marriage and live for his

business trips.

[Inkfreak]

71. your assumption is gross.

[BigmanPigman]

66. That is my plan too but I only know one of them and never

see her anyway. I would love to rub her face into her "dear leader's" fall but she is such a cult/fan she will have tons of excuses already planned to defend his lies and conspiracies when that happens and will defend him until she drops dead.

[Inkfreak]

70. What a terrible attitude at a time of holiday enjoyment with family.

It’s rather sad. If true.

[nolabear]

72. I feel for your wife. She's in a terrible position.

[snowybirdie]

73. Sorry to disagree

If you don't go,Your wife should go and enjoy her family. You are being selfish. Ignore the troglodyte and have a nice Holiday. When our loved one's are gone, we regret much.

[brush]

76. I'm with you. I'll be rubbing it in a bit myself.

[shockey80]

79. Good news, I just unchained my wife from the stove and told her we could visit her sister.

This is the reason I do not post on line very often. Your posts can be easily misunderstood. My wife is still debating whether we should go or not. I said to my wife in a very sweet, caring and loving way (LOL) we could visit her sister but I would not keep my mouth shut if her sisters husband said something stupid about Trump.

My wife understands where I am coming from.

[Rorey]

110. I do think you've been misunderstood

I didn't get from your OP that you were forbidding your wife from going to see her sister and her family. I don't know why some folks would assume that.

I would guess that your wife knows how passionate you are about the state of affairs that we're all in right now. When an idiot trumpster makes a stupid comment, it's not easy to just keep your mouth shut. What I used to do with my brother, who is a die-hard Republican, was I'd just smile and tell him that I won't be baited into an argument because he was obviously set in his opinion based on the "facts" he believed. He'd make a few more attempts to bait me and I'd just smile. He'd look like the fool eventually, and I'd be fine.

BUT, that was before Individual 1 was in the WH. That was before things got THIS crazy. And that was when we had no choice but to see each other because we were involved in the end-of-life stage of some elderly relatives. Now I have no reason to see him. In the last two years we've had just a couple of brief phone conversations, and now it's reduced to a text exchange every few months. And I'm just fine with that.

[cwydro]

134. So you "told her she could visit."

How wonderful of you to give your permission.

Maybe stop digging.

[mahina]

83. Just hoping she can see her sister soon.

I wish my Mom could see her sisters. It's a big ocean between us. Nobody's getting any younger if you read me.

Would you have to stay with them, or could you stay somewhere else and she could still hang out w her sister?

Good luck with everything.

[elocs]

84. And so America is divided, parents against children, siblings against each other,

friend against friend. And as long as each side is unrelenting in holding their bitterness against the other side close to their heart as if it is precious to them and is proud of it as well this will be a war without end. This does not bode well for America's future.

I wonder, what would Abraham Lincoln have advised us about this?

[Martin Eden]

88. +1

A house divided against itself cannot stand .

[Raine]

96. Exactly

it's a sad thing, future looks very dark and depressing.

[elocs]

111. There are reluctant Trump voters, Trump supporters, Trump followers and they are not all the same.

Trump followers (politicians have supporters, cult leaders have followers) will never be dissuaded from believing he is godlike. Trump supporters might be persuaded that he is wrong, that they made a mistake is supporting him, but his reluctant voters are the ones most likely to regret their voting for him.
Except nobody likes to have it thrown in their faces and mocked about how they were wrong and it makes them defensive and less likely to change.

If we harbor bitterness and resentment against even our family and friends who supported Trump, how does this nation ever have a chance to come together again?

Trump is very much like George Wallace was in his racial hatred and eagerly willing to divide Americans as well as his mocking. Yet after Wallace survived and assassination attempt that put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life and in pain, where he could have become bitter and resentful, he instead changed his views on racism and was sorry for what he had done. He even received the forgiveness of many African Americans including civil rights icon John Lewis who said, “George Wallace should be remembered for his capacity to change.”
Do we need to be so small to deny the same opportunity for change to our family and friends, to give them the opportunity to grow and admit they were wrong? Certainly not all will, but they deserve a chance without having their being wrong thrown in their faces.

[maxrandb]

86. Please don't wait until the nightmare ends

They need to hear it now. I scream it from the rooftops

[Raine]

89. Agree to disagree and don't discuss politics

political situations come and go, family is more important.

[treestar]

98. Up to now, but with Donald the effects may last

a long time. And he's not halfway through his first term yet. People quitting all around him. What's next? I think their votes are going to damage this country seriously. Perhaps not beyond repair. But very seriously. It's not just a political situation like in ordinary times.

[Meowmee]

91. I don't have any

Family or friends who voted for the monster very fortunately. I have encountered some who did obvioulsy. Recently someone who worked at our home on a project said they did because of the hrc “emails”. Unbelievable and such stupidity.

I want nothing to do with people who could vote for that monster on anything but a casual unavoidable level, unless they are sorry and regret it. But how can you screen for that because when screening for jobs people will lie obviously.

The pain and suffering and damage they have caused is not excusable in any way. I have suffered terrible mental and physical stress and I wonder how many people have died from this type of stress not to mention all the other evils and deaths that have been a direct cause of this, and which continue.

[Buckeyeblue]

92. We have a no politics rule...

But if I didn't think I could be around my wife's family, she would go without me, if she wanted. But we've always taken a hands off approach to each other's families. It works well. And allows us to enjoy each other's families. We are both lucky to have good in-law relationships.

But definitely no talk of politics around family gatherings. Even if we agree. It just keeps the occasion more festive.

[XRubicon]

94. Don't let me down

[treestar]

99. I would still go but

maybe leave the room if he brought it up and no one stifled him. The right wing of my family always brings up politics in a way where they assume that we must all agree. Recently the left wing has started saying "no politics." But I noticed it is always they who bring it up. And they never let an opportunity to bring it up go by.

Donald is another subject, however. It's not like defending Dubya or criticizing Obama. All they have is talking points. It is sometimes amusing to just ask them questions about the fundamentals or proof that the talking point is true and amusing to see them deflate.

For example they say well Clinton did it - in defense of pussy grabber. Then you just say : so you must have been OK with it back when Clinton did it. Why did you say back then that morality mattered? They get flustered because they thought we were caught in a hypocrisy when it is them that are. They didn't get their own "argument" or see its flaw.

[EllieBC]

107. Wow your wife capitulated to your toddler like foot stomping?

Apparently you are also “brutal” enough to make her feel like she has to lose out on family time.

Nice.

[MLAA]

108. I am with you. I am glad you don't want to associate with those who support

Racists, sexists and anti LGBT community all led by a president who sees nazis as good people!

I expect a lot of people ‘went along to get along’ in some of the worst moments of history. I will not stand with or even near with. Family or not.

There needs to be accountability for those propagating and normalizing bigotry that has resulted in hate crimes up in double digit percents, for abandoning our allies to kowtow to dictators.

He might be a racists, homophobe, fill in the blank but he is my brother does not work for me.

I would rather stand with Shockey.

[shockey80]

114. Thank you, you get it.

I am not stopping my wife from doing anything. She is as disgusted as I am about the Trump voters. This is not about having different political beliefs. We are way past that. This is about people who have lost their fucking minds and have put all of our lives in danger.

My wife will get to see her sister, her nieces. We will figure out the best way to do this without dealing with a Trump cult follower.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

109. Please reconsider. Life is short. If politics are brought up,

either try to steer away the conversation or if necessary, leave the room. Be the bigger person.

45 will, G-d willing, be out of office soon enough, but preventing your wife from seeing her family can have lasting repercussions.

Happy wife, happy life. 😀

[50 Shades Of Blue]

112. I sat next to my Trump-loving Limbaugh-listening BIL at an early holiday

Gathering yesterday... See him on a regular basis. Spouse and I simply refuse to engage on politics. It's the only way we can maintain a relationship. Sadly I have several of my own relatives I have this policy with too. It's not easy to compartmentalize this way, it's frustrating and actually bewildering how some family members can be so obtuse, but as the above poster said, life is short. We do everything we can to be the opposite of Trumpers, and that includes at least trying to be inclusive with family members regardless, as hard as it can be, at least as long as no-discussion policy holds.

But we all gotta do what we feel we gotta do.

[The Wizard]

121. The cult has an effective

propaganda operation that is dedicated to making out all who disagree as traitors.

[Mars and Minerva]

123. I get it. This isn't just a matter of political differences...

This is about Racism, Bigotry, Misogyny, greed. Anyone who can look past what the Trump administration is stirring up globally is basically, a junior Nazi.
Do I think what is happening now is equivalent to Nazi Germany? No.
Do I think that Trump supporters could eventually be convinced to endorse genocide? Yes.

[KentuckyWoman]

125. I feel for your wife and her sister.

It's tough to have to only see each other when the men aren't around. I went through that with my sister's first husband. He was such a shit my own sweet husband finally had enough and let it blow. For 4 years my sister and I had to work out our visits without her husband. She finally managed to work out finances to get free.