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This morning I phoned my friend, the former Republican member of Congress.
ME: So, what are you hearing?
HE: Trump is in deep sh*t.
ME: Tell me more.
HE: When it looked like he was backing down on the wall, Rush and the crazies on Fox went ballistic. So he has to do the shutdown to keep the base happy. Theyre his insurance policy. They stand between him and impeachment.
ME: Impeachment? No chance. Senate Republicans would never go along.
HE (laughing): Dont be so sure. Corporate and Wall Street are up in arms. Trade war was bad enough. Now, youve got Mattis resigning in protest. Trump pulling out of Syria, giving Putin a huge win. This dumbass shutdown. The stock market in free-fall. The economy heading for recession.
ME: But the base loves him.
HE: Yeah, but the base doesnt pay the bills.
ME: You mean
HE: Follow the money, friend.
ME: The GOPs backers have had enough?
HE: They wanted Pence all along.
ME: So
HE: So theyll wait until Muellers report, which will skewer Trump. Pelosi will wait, too. Then after the Mueller bombshell, shell get 20, 30, maybe even 40 Republicans to join in an impeachment resolution.
ME: And then?
HE: Senate Republicans hope thatll be enough that Trump will pull a Nixon.
ME: So you think hell resign?
HE (laughing): No chance. Hes fu*king out of his mind. Hell rile up his base into a fever. Rallies around the country. Tweet storms. Hannity. Oh, its gonna be ugly. Hell convince himself hell survive.
ME: And then?
HE: Thats when Senate Republicans pull the trigger.
ME: Really? Two-thirds of the Senate?
HE: Do the math. 47 Dems will be on board, so you need 19 Republicans. I can name almost that many who are already there. Wont be hard to find the votes.
ME: But it will take months. And the country will be put through a ringer.
HE: I know. Thats the worst part.
ME: I mean, we could have civil war.
HE: Hell, no. Thats what he wants, but no chance. His approvals will be in the cellar. America will be glad to get rid of him.
ME: I hope youre right.
HE: Hes a dangerous menace. Hell be gone. And then hell be indicted, and Pence will pardon him. But the state investigations may put him in the clinker. Good riddance.
MORE:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/12/22/1821088/-Robert-Reich-The-End-of-Trump-Is-Near?utm_campaign=trending
https://www.alternet.org/robert-reich-end-near-trump
ALSO:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/23/us-economic-precipice-donald-trump-government-shutdown
Golden Raisin
(4,608 posts)Mofo is STILL in the Oval Office. Still Putin's puppet and spreading even more chaos. Goddamn complicit Republicans do nothing.
area51
(11,908 posts)barbtries
(28,793 posts)trump keeps on shooting himself in the foot. yes he has a base that would follow him straight to hell, but it is shrinking. Dems will have the house. the news on trump keeps coming and it's never good. he's clearly in deep to putin, a would be strogman dictator, lawless and mentally ill. he's in such deep shit that by the time impeachment comes up i believe it quite possible that enough republicans would vote against him.
having said that i think it's beyond time where impeachment must happen even if it loses in the senate. he's so, so bad.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)If Trump is personally not deeply affected by the time the report comes out then your argument will be valid.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)He was in charge of the Transition Team after Chris Christie was ousted. The investigation into the Trump Transition team just might implicate Pence in wrongdoing. What did he know and when did he know it?
Watch this space.
2naSalit
(86,598 posts)I was wondering what role he played in this coup. here's not one person marching in the cheatolini's parade who is not filthy with the oobleck that coats their world. It reminds me of that algae-slime that gets all over every last thing in a slimy swamp, even if you get the surface scraped off, there's still that tattletale stain.
Pence is going down too and I hope it's before the idiot has a been removed. It's a delicate dance with time right now.
Just a Weirdo
(488 posts)Telltale.
Tattletale is what Donald Trump is doing to "insulate" himself from the trouble he made.
2naSalit
(86,598 posts)of two things, one being the proper term, telltale and something I recall from and old cartoon, "...tattletale grey". I put them together to make that term. It's mine and I own it.
I realize I probably rub some linguists and grammarians the wrong way sometimes but I can't seem to help making up my own absurd terms at times. I learned to be really good at it after studying linguistics, I hold back a lot since most wouldn't get what I mean.
Just a Weirdo
(488 posts)For common misspellings. Thanks for the explanation.
I have a mother who was a good English teacher l
2naSalit
(86,598 posts)proper English and grammar in school, grade school, and have retained most of my language skills. I even worked a s a proofreader once, but as I age, I realize that I'm slipping, and my fingers are going blind and can't read the keypad all that well anymore.
Harker
(14,016 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)your wrongdoings? I certainly would not. But it would be wonderful if he is caught up in this somehow someway...I mean why did Manfort want him?
Pence will pardon rump.....Hmmm wonder how that will sit with the American people ? 2019 is gonna be a hellava year.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)The country was already aware of how dirty Christie was. They had something on Pence, made him play along, and now he is in deeper shit than when he started. They thought they could sneak the choir boy in without anyone looking much deeper. I have no doubts that Mueller knows exactly why Pence was chosen.
My take anyway.
I am impatient as hell to find out details.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)"Press the Meat" there was Christie defending tRump. We do not know what is really going on. Remember tRump had Christie picking up his fast food, making fun of his girth and insulting him in general. Now, here he is on national TV talking about tRump as though he is "normal".
SHRED
(28,136 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)safeinOhio
(32,675 posts)We ain't seen nutting yet. The straw that breaks the camels back is not far off. There will be no doubt when it falls.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)Trump is like a toenail fungus, he never quite goes away.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,686 posts)has been forecast now for a year, but he's still there. I won't believe it until I see federal marshals forcibly dragging his orange ass out of the White House.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)And THAT day should be declared a National Holiday!
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)put through a "ringer"?????
PLEASE, Dr. Reich!!!!!!!!!
duforsure
(11,885 posts)For his diversion to declare martial law , and bypasses Congress with it, and fire Mueller and everyone coming after him. HE could already be setting us up with putins help for a cyber power grid attack or EMP attack on the country. He's capable of doing anything , and he's evil to the core . As long as he's in the office we are all at great risk from him and his buddies like Putin.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)I guess we will see
trueblue2007
(17,217 posts)Should have found the PEE Tape and the 2 hooker women should have told their story.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and his base would have envied and idolized him for that pee thing too.
His base are prurient.
lilactime
(657 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)gop will work with rw media to build a case against trump and for pence to prep the base. Trump and family get immunity from prosecution and blanket pardon from pence; all state investigations get appealed to federal courts and halted after that. Pence is promoted by rw media and both sides corporate media as the man who saved the country and wins 2020 presidency. Thats the pessimistic scenario but very likely.
Just ask yourselves this: What is the difference between Biden vs. Sanders and Clinton vs. Sanders in dem primaries. As far as I know, Bidens positions are 100% aligned with Clintons. Expect same or more bitter division then.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)seems very possible at this point. The base wasn't enough to save the house (despite showing up in bigly numbers) and it won't be enough in 2020. Once Mueller releases his report, I could see the GOP showing Trump the door. It's plausible.