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Just saw the movie Vice (Original Post) dhol82 Dec 2018 OP
Yeah but how was the movie? ADX Dec 2018 #1
Definitely worth seeing. dhol82 Dec 2018 #2
The physical preparation Bale puts into his roles is amazing... ADX Dec 2018 #4
And he looked like him straight through dhol82 Dec 2018 #5
Those two are outstanding actors. Sounds spooky3 Dec 2018 #31
Yup, 'stomach for it' is the proper phrase. dhol82 Dec 2018 #32
I've seen the trailer. Aristus Dec 2018 #29
I highly recommend John Nichols' book --Dick: The Man Who Is President diva77 Dec 2018 #3
Looks like a book I will enjoy reading. dhol82 Dec 2018 #6
Strangely, on Amazon the book cover is orange colored -- when I read the book in 2004 the cover was diva77 Dec 2018 #7
Hmmmm dhol82 Dec 2018 #8
When a book gets made into a movie, they usually re-release it FakeNoose Dec 2018 #9
was the movie based on this book? diva77 Dec 2018 #43
I'm not sure if it's based on a published book FakeNoose Dec 2018 #44
Just ordered it. thanks for rec. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2018 #41
He's more machine now than man. RedSpartan Dec 2018 #10
Sadly, still breathing. dhol82 Dec 2018 #11
And running on someone else's heart, cause his was no good! Doitnow Dec 2018 #12
They did a bit on that in the movie. dhol82 Dec 2018 #14
He really makes the case AGAINST organ donation. FSogol Dec 2018 #37
He's got Gold Card health insurance!1 UTUSN Dec 2018 #13
Well, he did get a $26 million payout from Halliburton dhol82 Dec 2018 #15
I will not watch it, but I am still curious as to Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #16
Big time light on how despicable he always was. dhol82 Dec 2018 #17
That is good to know. Thank you Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #23
It is NOT a flattering movie toward Cheney. At all. n/t. Whiskeytide Dec 2018 #22
Correct. Written and directed by Adam McKay who did "The Big Short" TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #24
+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #27
It's good to support films that accurately expose corruption -- especially films that take up where diva77 Dec 2018 #42
Why would you go see a movie about Dick Cheney????? LAS14 Dec 2018 #18
I am a member of SAG-AFTRA. dhol82 Dec 2018 #20
It's released at this time because it is award worthy TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #25
Which was also a terrific movie! dhol82 Dec 2018 #30
Sam Rockwell as GWB TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author spooky3 Dec 2018 #38
Intriguing. Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #28
thank you for the low down and the review orleans Dec 2018 #19
You're welcome. I do think it's worth a view. dhol82 Dec 2018 #21
Cheney is still alive, and has progeny empedocles Dec 2018 #26
The ads on the Bagman series claims it's a COMEDY! 2naSalit Dec 2018 #33
Well, maybe a black comedy. dhol82 Dec 2018 #35
Thanks. 2naSalit Dec 2018 #36
For anyone here voicing concerns over a movie about "Dick" Cheney Docreed2003 Dec 2018 #34
That is good to know. Thank you Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #40

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
2. Definitely worth seeing.
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:47 PM
Dec 2018

They were able to put some humor into the mix. Surprisingly, it worked.
Christian Bale was outstanding.

 

ADX

(1,622 posts)
4. The physical preparation Bale puts into his roles is amazing...
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:54 PM
Dec 2018

...When I saw the trailer, I was stunned by how much he looked like Darth Cheney...

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
5. And he looked like him straight through
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:59 PM
Dec 2018

Even as a younger Dick.
Steve Carell was also great as Rumsfeld. Didn’t realize for how long he was such a prick.

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
31. Those two are outstanding actors. Sounds
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:16 PM
Dec 2018

As if it’s a very good movie—when you have the stomach for it.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
32. Yup, 'stomach for it' is the proper phrase.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:20 PM
Dec 2018

It just got more depressing as it went along.
There were many comedic breaks that helped to diffuse the attempt at total destruction of the country.
Interesting discussion of the Unitary Executive status. Scary to think that dump and his cabal now have those powers.

Aristus

(66,340 posts)
29. I've seen the trailer.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018

The way Bale was able to reproduce the way Cheney growls out of the side of his mouth is uncanny...

diva77

(7,640 posts)
3. I highly recommend John Nichols' book --Dick: The Man Who Is President
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 08:53 PM
Dec 2018
https://www.amazon.com/Dick-Man-President-John-Nichols/dp/1565848403

Yup, Cheney is part of a succession of corrupt politicians who paved the way for Dump

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
6. Looks like a book I will enjoy reading.
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 09:01 PM
Dec 2018

I was intrigued by how many shenanigans have gone on during my life time.
I guess that, since they were spaced out, they didn’t have as much of an impact as when seen all together.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
7. Strangely, on Amazon the book cover is orange colored -- when I read the book in 2004 the cover was
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 09:09 PM
Dec 2018

green. Must be some not-so-subliminal allusion to Cheetolini

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
9. When a book gets made into a movie, they usually re-release it
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 09:16 PM
Dec 2018

... because there's usually a "bump" in sales once the movie comes out. So it makes sense that they would also redesign the cover and update the look to 2018.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
44. I'm not sure if it's based on a published book
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 09:46 PM
Dec 2018

Disclosure - I haven't seen the film yet but I do plan to see it soon.

On IMDB they say that Adam McKay the director also wrote the script, but they don't say whether he's basing it on a book. I would imaging that a lot research went into the script because that's how McKay and Christian Bale work. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression on my previous post.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. Just ordered it. thanks for rec.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 09:48 PM
Dec 2018


I was surposed when I found out rumsfeld and Cheney had served in so many previous administrations. They knew the Gov. better than almost anyone.
In fact, if they were Trump henchmen, we would all be talking about their connections to some of the global bad guys.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
14. They did a bit on that in the movie.
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:04 PM
Dec 2018

The guy who was killed was a 30-something.
Sadly, his heart went to an evil, decrepit piece of shit rather than a deserving young person.
Sucks. Big time.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
16. I will not watch it, but I am still curious as to
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:06 PM
Dec 2018

what "light" they shone on him. Did they tell the truth about how despicable a human he is or did they whitewash his crimes?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
17. Big time light on how despicable he always was.
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:11 PM
Dec 2018

Actually fascinating background about how much of a prick he always was.
Interesting part of the movie is how he got involved with Rumsfeld back at the beginning and parlayed that into ultimate control of the presidency.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
42. It's good to support films that accurately expose corruption -- especially films that take up where
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:46 AM
Dec 2018

mainstream media dropped the ball or substituted propaganda and lies for truth. I have not seen this film yet, but it sounds like it will help people remember the crimes of Cheney et. al. as well as help them put our current situation in better context.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
18. Why would you go see a movie about Dick Cheney?????
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:13 PM
Dec 2018

Why would they release it in the Christmas season?????

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
20. I am a member of SAG-AFTRA.
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:21 PM
Dec 2018

This movie is up for several nominations.
Wanted to see it for various reasons.
Not sure why it was released at this time.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,186 posts)
25. It's released at this time because it is award worthy
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:46 AM
Dec 2018

Same writer/director, Adam McKay, as "The Big Short".

TexasBushwhacker

(20,186 posts)
39. Sam Rockwell as GWB
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 01:08 PM
Dec 2018

Amy Adams as Lynn Cheney, Steve Carell as Donald Rumsfeld and Tyler Perry as Colin Powell!

Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #25)

orleans

(34,051 posts)
19. thank you for the low down and the review
Sun Dec 23, 2018, 11:20 PM
Dec 2018

i really don't go out and see movies but i'd like to see this one
after reading this here i think it would be worth watching

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
26. Cheney is still alive, and has progeny
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dec 2018

The Reagans thankfully, in the words of Patty Davis, 'killed their gene pool'.

2naSalit

(86,600 posts)
33. The ads on the Bagman series claims it's a COMEDY!
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:27 PM
Dec 2018

I'm wondering about that, is it really a comedy?

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
35. Well, maybe a black comedy.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:37 PM
Dec 2018

It has a number of really funny bits.
It also addresses the tragedy that we are now faced with.
Not sure I would have classified it as a comedy.

2naSalit

(86,600 posts)
36. Thanks.
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:40 PM
Dec 2018

I don't receive much advertising and was expecting this to be a serious movie, then hearing that it might be a comedy made me wonder.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
34. For anyone here voicing concerns over a movie about "Dick" Cheney
Mon Dec 24, 2018, 12:33 PM
Dec 2018

Do not mistake this as being hagiography...this is nothing of the sort.

This movie highlights the evil that is Dick, and that actors all do a phenomenal job! It is certainly a timely movie, shedding light on how we got to where we are today!

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