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Daughter stops Dad from watching Fox News for Xmas. (Original Post) Cattledog Dec 2018 OP
As someone with adult children snowybirdie Dec 2018 #1
Are you not smart enough to just change the setting? mwb970 Dec 2018 #12
I take it from the video that she set a pin. pintobean Dec 2018 #20
So much negativity snowybirdie Dec 2018 #30
And I left a condensation ring on auntie's table. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #63
You seem upset. pintobean Dec 2018 #67
Smart enough snowybirdie Dec 2018 #29
Free? Or brainwashed by rightwing billionaire Murdoch? sharedvalues Dec 2018 #16
Never said I was a Fox viewer lol snowybirdie Dec 2018 #32
Right. No bothsidesism. Fox is bad for America. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #41
Then it would still be much ado about nothing. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #64
Agreed - but that can be easier said than done, you know. sandensea Dec 2018 #59
Ummm...First Amendment rights? Are you sure about that? malchickiwick Dec 2018 #19
" H2O Man Dec 2018 #34
Amazing, isn't it? PAMod Dec 2018 #39
Ah, come on! True Blue American Dec 2018 #23
If you were dumb enough to be a Trump supporter, you need the help. bitterross Dec 2018 #27
movie recommendation: barbtries Dec 2018 #36
News flash: Your child is not the government and it is impossible for your child to infringe Ms. Toad Dec 2018 #56
What a shitty daughter pintobean Dec 2018 #2
Kick pintobean Dec 2018 #62
There are few things worse in this world than denial of a TV station. LanternWaste Dec 2018 #65
That daughter is a GREAT American! FoxNewsSucks Dec 2018 #3
I think she just doesn't want him getting all riled up when they're together. mwb970 Dec 2018 #13
Or he might be the one who needs TV on 24x7 as background noise. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #37
If it's her house then I don't have an issue with it Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #4
It wasn't; it was her father's house. /nt LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #24
Then it just depends on their family dynamic. Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #38
Remember, rightwing talking points and truth sharedvalues Dec 2018 #43
I don't see the point in ruining Christmas by arguing about politics Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #46
Just recognize that's what the right wants sharedvalues Dec 2018 #50
Daughter should block Fox at her own house. Mister Ed Dec 2018 #5
Fox is poison. You do it for their own good. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #17
When children become Guests in a parent's house Henk_sg Dec 2018 #28
Right? a la izquierda Dec 2018 #61
Intervention at its finest UpInArms Dec 2018 #6
you are saving him from 24 hour of brain rot. What great idea! samnsara Dec 2018 #7
I'm not a big fan of doing that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #8
Have you tried "talking" to a trump cultist? mwb970 Dec 2018 #14
I have, yes. I talked one into turning off the television altogether MineralMan Dec 2018 #15
Will not work! True Blue American Dec 2018 #25
Me neither oberliner Dec 2018 #55
My brother a Fox junkie knows I will never set foot in house again. gordianot Dec 2018 #9
This is the right strategy: talk Fox, not politics sharedvalues Dec 2018 #51
When I had satellite I had it blocked. 47of74 Dec 2018 #10
I was on the elliptical at the gym a couple days doc03 Dec 2018 #11
Good for you! This is how we will take back the country. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #18
I had a similar experience here in SC. GoCubsGo Dec 2018 #21
Things like this make me so glad ooky Dec 2018 #22
For all practical purposes, I enjoy the same blessing DFW Dec 2018 #35
If it is his tv, his cable bill, then Ilsa Dec 2018 #26
Lighten Up yellowwoodII Dec 2018 #31
Fox truly is the Enemy of the People ! Pepsidog Dec 2018 #33
I think it's ironic how many here think this is ok NickB79 Dec 2018 #40
Yes. DavidDvorkin Dec 2018 #48
Yes, exactly nt Raine Dec 2018 #54
I'm proud of you - ignore the moral police 👮‍♀️ bashers. Funtatlaguy Dec 2018 #42
My mother-in-law developed dimentia in her 90s MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #44
Even if it's not tuned to Fox News, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #45
Me too! LittleGirl Dec 2018 #60
My Brother-in-law is a MAGAt MineralMan Dec 2018 #47
It is okay to do this as long as you are blocking ideas that hughee99 Dec 2018 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Crutchez_CuiBono Dec 2018 #52
It would be an interesting experiment treestar Dec 2018 #53
Don't judge! Manastash Dec 2018 #57
You're doing him a very loving and caring good deed. calimary Dec 2018 #58
They probably prank each other all the time Generic Other Dec 2018 #66

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
1. As someone with adult children
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 09:52 AM
Dec 2018

I'd be extremely mad and insulted if a child decided to choose my tv viewing for me. It's a free country and that child is infringing on my First Amendment rights. Shame on you.. Not cool folks!

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
20. I take it from the video that she set a pin.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:19 AM
Dec 2018

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:12 PM - Edit history (1)



Regardless, she's in her father's home, vandalizing his property.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
63. And I left a condensation ring on auntie's table.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:38 PM
Dec 2018

The horror. The frickin' horror of first world inconveniences.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
16. Free? Or brainwashed by rightwing billionaire Murdoch?
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:12 AM
Dec 2018

Last edited Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Murdoch gets people to hate brown and black people so you’ll vote to cut taxes on billionaires.

Fox News is absolute poison for our culture and our country. Any chance you have to take it away, you do it.

This is not a joke and this is not something to take lightly.

Fox News is poison. Turn it off.
If your parents watch it, turn it off. It’s too important for our society and our democracy.

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
32. Never said I was a Fox viewer lol
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:07 PM
Dec 2018

Just an offended by a guest in my home trying to choose my watching habits. What if a Fox watching child tried to turn off Msnbc on a parent?

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
41. Right. No bothsidesism. Fox is bad for America.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:57 PM
Dec 2018

Fox uses hate and lies to get votes for its owner, Murdoch. You are trying to equate Fox and MSNBC. That’s like trying to equate Mussolini and Neville Chamberlain. Yes, they’re on different sides. But one uses hate to harm democracy, and the other does not.

As Americans we stand against hate. That means turning off Fox.

Take a freaking stand. Stand up for your g-d country. Stop the bothsidesism. And turn off Fox.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
64. Then it would still be much ado about nothing.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:41 PM
Dec 2018

"What if a Fox watching child tried to turn off Msnbc on a parent?"

Then it would still be much ado about nothing. And people would still lament this horrible, first world inconvenience as though wearing wearing ash on the face, and renting clothes.

Though easy to infer that TV stations have certainly become branded identity for far too many people.

Because, at the end of the day, it's just another meaningless TV station we choose to invest our emotions into.

sandensea

(21,627 posts)
59. Agreed - but that can be easier said than done, you know.
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:12 AM
Dec 2018

Raygun knew what he was doing by rescinding the Fairness Doctrine and giving Murdoch an expedited citizenship.

Well, after Nancy explained it to him 85 times no doubt.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
19. Ummm...First Amendment rights? Are you sure about that?
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:18 AM
Dec 2018

Read the first five words of the 1A again, and you will see what I mean.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
23. Ah, come on!
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:43 AM
Dec 2018

Christmas joke.

My Son once yelled,” No Politics!” At his Christmas get togerther. Sure enough, no politics.

I once was seated between a Democrat woman and Republican on the sundeck.. i almost got tipped over when One said, Bush is really a great President fighting the war.”

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
27. If you were dumb enough to be a Trump supporter, you need the help.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dec 2018

First of all, get a sense of humor.

Second of all, if you were a die-hard Trumper, then you'd clearly have mental issues that your children would need to be concerned about. So helping you get away from FOX news and all of its lying would be the right thing to do

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
36. movie recommendation:
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:27 PM
Dec 2018

"The Brainwashing of My Dad"

it's a history of right wing media. i think it was an act of love if it sticks.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
56. News flash: Your child is not the government and it is impossible for your child to infringe
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 08:33 PM
Dec 2018

your first amendment rights.

(I'd be pissed if my child prevented me - in my home - from watching what I wanted to watch. But it has nothing to do with the 1st amendment.)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
65. There are few things worse in this world than denial of a TV station.
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:44 PM
Dec 2018

About the only think worse I can think of, are people who think it's indicative a a daughter's shittiness.

I get it... without our day time stories, many people are just so very, very small, which isn't so much shitty, as it is sadly bemusing.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
3. That daughter is a GREAT American!
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:00 AM
Dec 2018

The Fox "news" Sewer and Hate radio have done unbelievable damage to this country. Every step necessary to help people escape the rightwing cult is our duty.

Congratulations to her!

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
13. I think she just doesn't want him getting all riled up when they're together.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:09 AM
Dec 2018

When right-wingers watch Fox "News" it makes them seethe with fear and rage. It's like the Two Minutes Hate in "1984".

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
4. If it's her house then I don't have an issue with it
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:00 AM
Dec 2018

I don't want that shit on. However, if I have company I also don't watch MSNBC either. Best not to mix company and politics.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
43. Remember, rightwing talking points and truth
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:08 PM
Dec 2018

Rightwing talking point: “Let’s not talk about Politics”

Truth: It’s peoples’ lives at stake. This is a national emergency. It’s not politics, it’s life. (Rightwing agenda: pretend everything is ok so the nation doesn’t wake up while they rewrite the tax laws, pack courts with judges, and destroy the EPA and our healthcare. Don’t let them silence you on important issues by telling you to stop talking about politics.)


Rightwing talking point: “Fox and MSNBC.”

Truth: Fox is a propaganda outlet, owned by rightwing billionaire Rupert Murdoch, that uses hate and lies to divide America and incite Americans against minorities and immigrants. MSNBC is a news station with some left wing hosts that is owned and run by a corporation which is conservative and profit-seeking.

NEVER say “Fox” and “MSNBC” in the same sentence and do not let anyone else do so. The rightwing agenda is to pretend the two are similar but on opposite sides. But this is a lie that no American who cares about democracy should tolerate.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
46. I don't see the point in ruining Christmas by arguing about politics
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:48 PM
Dec 2018

And trust me, I've had some heated extended family discussions about politics. Nothing gets accomplished and everyone gets pissed off.

So gatherings at my house will continue to be non-political. Everyone can enjoy each other's company and reflect on our shared history.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
50. Just recognize that's what the right wants
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 05:58 PM
Dec 2018

As long as you recognize that a rightwing talking point and strategy is “let’s not talk about politics” or “why do you have to politicize this”, I think your strategy is fine.

But if right wingers start hinting about politics, make sure to do the same. If they mention Obama or government, mention tax cuts for billionaires or the Koches. And move on.

Mister Ed

(5,930 posts)
5. Daughter should block Fox at her own house.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:21 AM
Dec 2018

It's inexcusable for her to do that as a guest in someone else's home.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
17. Fox is poison. You do it for their own good.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:15 AM
Dec 2018

Fox airs Nazi-style propaganda against immigrants.
This is not a joke and this is not an exaggeration.

If they were watching Hitler, would you turn it off? Of course you would. This is in the same ballpark.

Yes I compared Fox to Nazis. Fox propaganda about immigrants hits all the same themes as the Nazis.

Fox is poison. This is incredibly important. Any chance you get to turn it off, you do so, even if your parents are upset. This is a cult intervention.

Henk_sg

(5 posts)
28. When children become Guests in a parent's house
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:55 AM
Dec 2018

that parent is setting themselves up for a lonely existence. My Limbaugh listening dad moved into what used to be our family cabin and since then he's always made us feel like guests when we visit, sometimes unwelcome guests. Now he's 90 and complains that we don't visit often enough. Funny, eh?

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
6. Intervention at its finest
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:47 AM
Dec 2018

Trying to break the cult cycle is a hard thing

I hope he cannot figure out why Fux Spews won’t work ... and is exposed to what is really happening in the world.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. I'm not a big fan of doing that.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:52 AM
Dec 2018

I'd rather she talked to her father, instead. Coercion isn't how you do it. Really.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
9. My brother a Fox junkie knows I will never set foot in house again.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:57 AM
Dec 2018

We are both fine with that. As for me I do not discuss political beliefs with him other than I hate Fox News.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
51. This is the right strategy: talk Fox, not politics
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:03 PM
Dec 2018

It’s totally not worth your time to debate politics with a Fox/Limbaugh listener, as the rightwing media poison will just infect them later with another lie.

The only thing to do is talk to them about Fox and Murdoch and why they lie.

Good for you for pursuing this strategy.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
10. When I had satellite I had it blocked.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:00 AM
Dec 2018

I figured I was the one paying for it so I got to block it. People could watch the hardest core pornography for all I care but I will not pay for that shitstream called Fox News

doc03

(35,328 posts)
11. I was on the elliptical at the gym a couple days
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:04 AM
Dec 2018

ago. The tv directly in front of me was on ESPN then suddenly Fox pops up. This asshole in back of me had the attendant to change it to Fox. I turned around and told him to put It back on ESPN or anything other than Fox. I got a dirty look but fuck those assholes. The gym is in WV
every tv is always on Fox if you don't speak up.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
18. Good for you! This is how we will take back the country.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:16 AM
Dec 2018

More of us should be telling people to turn Fox off.
Good for you for standing up for our democracy against plutocrats and demogogues.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
21. I had a similar experience here in SC.
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:22 AM
Dec 2018

This was back when my gym left the remotes out, rather than leaving each set on a channel permanently. I don't remember what I was watching, but schmuck asked if he could change the channel. I said, as long as it's not Fox News, I don't care. I'm sure his dirty look was the same as the one you got. I stood my ground, and didn't give up that remote until I was finished. Kept getting dirty looks from him the whole time, too. Whatevs. "Fuck those assholes", indeed.

The "ladies only" area of my gym has a lounge with a TV. If Fox is on there, and nobody is watching, I change the channel. Interestingly, I rarely see Fox on it these days. They usually have it set on HGTV, which is the next channel up. I suspect I might not be the only one who turns off the Propaganda Channel.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
22. Things like this make me so glad
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:34 AM
Dec 2018

we have no practicing MAGAts in our family. I don't take that for granted, I consider it a blessing.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
35. For all practical purposes, I enjoy the same blessing
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:11 PM
Dec 2018

I do have a cousin in Memphis I haven't seen since Clinton's first term. My aunt (his mom) told me later on he had turned into a Cheneybushie, so I have to assume he is now a Trumpador. Fine with me. I doubt our paths will ever cross again, so it's not like I'll have to cross the street to avoid running into him.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
26. If it is his tv, his cable bill, then
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:49 AM
Dec 2018

I would say that this is inappropriate. I certainly wouldn't want someone blocking my viewing habits.

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
31. Lighten Up
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:04 PM
Dec 2018

I assume that the poster was being funny. If only one could block Fox so easily.
I trust that "Dad" could figure it out and get back to his favorite station.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
40. I think it's ironic how many here think this is ok
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 12:45 PM
Dec 2018

I'm almost tempted to start a thread with a fake story about how a Trump-loving family member locked my TV to only play Fox News, and watch the outrage pour in.

I hate Fox and Trump as much as anyone here, but it's his house, his TV, and he's a grown man. She just created a serious trust issue with her father that may last a very long time. God help any grandkids that might get caught up in it.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
44. My mother-in-law developed dimentia in her 90s
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 01:16 PM
Dec 2018

Even in that state, she informed the aids who took care of her that she watches CNN only, not “that channel.” She did not remember the name for Fox, but knew something was wrong with it.

LittleGirl

(8,286 posts)
60. Me too!
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 07:14 AM
Dec 2018

I come from a family that has a tv on 24/7. They only shut it off when they are sleeping and some of them, need to put the timer on their bedroom tv in order to fall asleep. I don't understand those people that need that noise on all day long. I enjoy the silence of thinking and reading and can't stand to have that noise on in the background. I don't mind music as long as it's not rap or opera. ha.

One of my brothers has a tv in every room and garage. He will have four tvs running at once so that he never misses a beat. I think he can't stand to be alone is my guess even though he lives alone.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
47. My Brother-in-law is a MAGAt
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 02:02 PM
Dec 2018

He always used to have Fox News on his monster flat screen. But, he's also a car nut, loves custom cars, and even builds his own hot rods. The last time I was at his house, I switched his TV to the REV'N channel, which offers non-stop automotive programming. He had never seen that channel before. He hasn't watched Fox News since. Now he bores everyone with stuff he saw on REV'N.

Best of all, he thanked me for finding that channel.

http://www.revntv.com/schedule/

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
49. It is okay to do this as long as you are blocking ideas that
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 03:07 PM
Dec 2018

We don’t agree with. We should make sure people don’t hear things that differ from our opinions.

Response to Cattledog (Original post)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
53. It would be an interesting experiment
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:26 PM
Dec 2018

if possible to get a deplorable to quit watching it and check back after a week and see if they have mellowed out at all.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
66. They probably prank each other all the time
Thu Dec 27, 2018, 01:53 PM
Dec 2018

I imagine Dad is plotting his revenge.

But what if it's a more serious intervention? Example: If an armed agitated senior is being triggered by Fox to act on aggressive inclinations (in other words, he's scaring Grandma), I have no problem with a family member intervening. It is not about the first amendment, it's about public safety.

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