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(58,807 posts)I only see one hostile party.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Mosby
(16,310 posts)Israel has responded by attacking Hezbollah and Iranian weapons depots in Syria.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)Which are different than surface to surface missiles like the SCUD. Why would Syria be firing those, unless they detected inbound hostile aircraft from Israel?
Mosby
(16,310 posts)And triggered a response.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)And fire before they crossed the border?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)by attacking Syria, yet Syria was shooting the SAM at an attacking aircraft.
That doesn't make sense to me.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Arent surface to air missiles the response to ongoing incursions and attacks? Do the Syrians have to wait for the planes to cross into Syria before responding?
triron
(22,003 posts)Mosby
(16,310 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)JudyM
(29,241 posts)malaise
(268,997 posts)and elections were called for April
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Part of the grand scheme of collusion.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)2/ So those who think Flynn's attempts to kidnap a supposed coup plotter for Erdogan in 2016 mean he *wasn't* simultaneously in bed with two of Turkey's nominal enemiesSaudi Arabia and UAE, nations key to Trump's personal wealthare wrong. Their interests aligned at that point.
3/ Don't forget, Flynn's secret allianceslied about on many forms*before* he was an agent for Turkey were with 1) Israel, 2) Egypt, 3) Saudi Arabia, 4) UAE, 5) Russia. His big efforts for Turkeyon the other side of the fence of 4 of those nationsbegan *after* the failed coup.
4/ This matters because it was *Trump* who summoned Flynn to *him* in August 2015and while Trump has a licensing deal in Turkey he knows he stands to make much, *much* more money with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, and Israel. And those nations found a way to get him Russia, too.
5/ When George Nader brought MBZ, MBS, and Al-Sissi onto a yacht in the Red Sea in late 2015 to get them all to agree they could remake the Middle East if they simply had a pliable US politician, it's folly to think he wasn't in touch with anyone stateside *prior* to that event.
6/ So a key question that'll eventually be answered publicly (and at length) is *which current or future Trump advisers* were secretly coordinating with that alliance of nations *prior* to the Red Sea Conspiracy being hatched in late 2015. Three key names: Flynn, Prince, Schmitz.
7/ But there are other names that may surprise, and they include Papadopouloswho was a perfect cutout due to concurrent ties with Egypt and Israel over (not surprisingly) energy, which is just what Flynn, Prince and *Barrack* were working/would work on with UAE and Saudi Arabia.
8/ Did I mention that Saudi Arabia and UAE have for years and years been even more crucial to the Trumps' personal wealth than Russia? That Trump would, if he went into politics, do so at the whim of the Saudis and Emiratisand with an eye toward future profitwas never in doubt.
9/ So if Nader had a US pol in mind in late 2015, seems like a good chance Flynn helped him to his conclusion, having met with Trump in August 2015 and then working with ACU on behalf of Saudi Arabiaas Nader was. Now read this and wait for the word "ACU":
'Good to go': Top Trump aide gave inaugural day ok to nuclear plan...
As President Donald Trump delivered his inaugural address on Capitol Hill in January, his incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn, sitting a few yards away, texted a former business partner
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-flynn/good-to-go-top-trump-aide-gave-inaugural-day-ok-to-nuclear-plan-congressman-idUSKBN1E02KI
10/ "[T]he informants story adds new evidence that the projects promoters believed that Flynn and Trump backed the plan for a consortium of U.S., Russian and French firms to build and operate 45 nuclear power plants in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries" (i.e. UAE, Egypt...)
11/ Those plants are Step 1 to the Saudis/Emiratis having nuclear weaponstheir ambition, along with a concurrent nuclear *dis*-armament of their enemy, Iran. They wanted Trump to pull out of the Iran deal to maintain the option of using force on Iran to destroy possible weapons.
12/ If you wondered why Trump pulled out of the Iran deal when *everyone* said Iran was in compliance with its termsthat's why. And that's why the Right had to turn the story of Obama honoring Iran's compliance by *giving it its own money back* into a fake "money-to-Iran" story.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Looks like Rep. Cummings is gonna turn up the heat on the stove.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,972 posts)will form an alliance with the US?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Just a Weirdo
(488 posts)I trust Haaretz for the time being.
The Polack MSgt
(13,188 posts)The Statement of Purpose for the General Discussion forum says this:
Discuss politics, issues, and current events. Posts about Israel/Palestine, religion, guns, showbiz, or sports are restricted in this forum.
ETA - I misread the intent of the SOP restriction. So I unlocked this thread.
My mistake
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Israel said Tuesday night it had deployed its air defenses against a missile shot from Syria as Damascus attempted to repel an alleged Israeli airstrike against Hezbollah or Iranian targets near the capital.
The Israel Defense Forces said there was no damage or injuries from the surface-to-air missile fired from Syria at Israel.........
ananda
(28,860 posts).. you thought Christmas might be a day of peace
and a celebration of our common humanity...
this.
triron
(22,003 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,101 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)... just about everybody.
Whom do we favor now? Our NATO ally, Turkey, or our historic and culturally close ally, Israel?
Turns out having an adult in the White House would have been a better plan.