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**Syria/Israel attacking each other now! Planes, missiles... (Original Post) Roland99 Dec 2018 OP
You said they're attacking each other RandySF Dec 2018 #1
Misread an earlier tweet that i thought mentioned Syria striking Roland99 Dec 2018 #3
surface to air missles were fired into Israel from Syria Mosby Dec 2018 #11
Surface to air missiles are used against attacking aircraft NickB79 Dec 2018 #16
Regardless of the reason, the missles made their way into Israeli airspace Mosby Dec 2018 #17
My question is, did Syrian radar detect inbound Israeli jets? NickB79 Dec 2018 #18
That doesn't make sense to me. You seem to be saying that Israel responded to Syria's SAM uppityperson Dec 2018 #21
That doesn't make sense Renew Deal Dec 2018 #25
Israel's way of saying to the world "Merry Christmas"? triron Dec 2018 #2
syria fired missles into israel and triggered the defense system. Mosby Dec 2018 #12
Whose aircraft did Syria fire the SAM at? uppityperson Dec 2018 #22
No, Syraia's way of saying it, apparently. JudyM Dec 2018 #13
I thought Bibi's government collapsed malaise Dec 2018 #19
Turkey getting involved too?? Roland99 Dec 2018 #4
WTF!? triron Dec 2018 #5
Check this thread from Seth, too!! Roland99 Dec 2018 #9
Traitors. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2018 #27
YPG are the Kurds. Trump handed them over to Turkey. octoberlib Dec 2018 #15
After Trump how many other countries Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #24
All I find for Syria attacking Israel is haaretz and RT. I'll wait for other sources uppityperson Dec 2018 #6
Their sources are good. Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #20
Post about Israel are inapropriate for the General Discussion Forum - As stated in the SOP The Polack MSgt Dec 2018 #7
Thank you. lpbk2713 Dec 2018 #10
I don't know this source, but it says Israel shot down a SAM from Syria, no damage to Israel uppityperson Dec 2018 #8
Sheesh. Just when .. ananda Dec 2018 #14
BBC is reporting Israeli strikes near Damascus. triron Dec 2018 #23
More likely, Israel is attacking Iran via Syria. no_hypocrisy Dec 2018 #26
Who would have thought that abandoning our Kurdish allies would expose Israel to harm? MaryMagdaline Dec 2018 #28

Mosby

(16,310 posts)
11. surface to air missles were fired into Israel from Syria
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:36 PM
Dec 2018

Israel has responded by attacking Hezbollah and Iranian weapons depots in Syria.




NickB79

(19,236 posts)
16. Surface to air missiles are used against attacking aircraft
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 09:35 PM
Dec 2018

Which are different than surface to surface missiles like the SCUD. Why would Syria be firing those, unless they detected inbound hostile aircraft from Israel?

Mosby

(16,310 posts)
17. Regardless of the reason, the missles made their way into Israeli airspace
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 09:49 PM
Dec 2018

And triggered a response.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
18. My question is, did Syrian radar detect inbound Israeli jets?
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 10:02 PM
Dec 2018

And fire before they crossed the border?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
21. That doesn't make sense to me. You seem to be saying that Israel responded to Syria's SAM
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 11:27 PM
Dec 2018

by attacking Syria, yet Syria was shooting the SAM at an attacking aircraft.

That doesn't make sense to me.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
25. That doesn't make sense
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 10:24 AM
Dec 2018

Aren’t surface to air missiles the response to ongoing incursions and attacks? Do the Syrians have to wait for the planes to cross into Syria before responding?

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
9. Check this thread from Seth, too!!
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:14 PM
Dec 2018
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1077687997817122817.html

Major-media reporting has the UAE—thus Saudi Arabia—secretly aiding the attempted 2016 coup in Turkey. When the coup failed, the UAE—thus Saudi Arabia—needed to get on Erdogan's good side. Now you know why Flynn simultaneously lobbied for UAE/Saudi Arabia and worked for Erdogan.

2/ So those who think Flynn's attempts to kidnap a supposed coup plotter for Erdogan in 2016 mean he *wasn't* simultaneously in bed with two of Turkey's nominal enemies—Saudi Arabia and UAE, nations key to Trump's personal wealth—are wrong. Their interests aligned at that point.

3/ Don't forget, Flynn's secret alliances—lied about on many forms—*before* he was an agent for Turkey were with 1) Israel, 2) Egypt, 3) Saudi Arabia, 4) UAE, 5) Russia. His big efforts for Turkey—on the other side of the fence of 4 of those nations—began *after* the failed coup.

4/ This matters because it was *Trump* who summoned Flynn to *him* in August 2015—and while Trump has a licensing deal in Turkey he knows he stands to make much, *much* more money with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, and Israel. And those nations found a way to get him Russia, too.

5/ When George Nader brought MBZ, MBS, and Al-Sissi onto a yacht in the Red Sea in late 2015 to get them all to agree they could remake the Middle East if they simply had a pliable US politician, it's folly to think he wasn't in touch with anyone stateside *prior* to that event.

6/ So a key question that'll eventually be answered publicly (and at length) is *which current or future Trump advisers* were secretly coordinating with that alliance of nations *prior* to the Red Sea Conspiracy being hatched in late 2015. Three key names: Flynn, Prince, Schmitz.

7/ But there are other names that may surprise, and they include Papadopoulos—who was a perfect cutout due to concurrent ties with Egypt and Israel over (not surprisingly) energy, which is just what Flynn, Prince and *Barrack* were working/would work on with UAE and Saudi Arabia.

8/ Did I mention that Saudi Arabia and UAE have for years and years been even more crucial to the Trumps' personal wealth than Russia? That Trump would, if he went into politics, do so at the whim of the Saudis and Emiratis—and with an eye toward future profit—was never in doubt.

9/ So if Nader had a US pol in mind in late 2015, seems like a good chance Flynn helped him to his conclusion, having met with Trump in August 2015 and then working with ACU on behalf of Saudi Arabia—as Nader was. Now read this and wait for the word "ACU":
'Good to go': Top Trump aide gave inaugural day ok to nuclear plan...
As President Donald Trump delivered his inaugural address on Capitol Hill in January, his incoming national security adviser Michael Flynn, sitting a few yards away, texted a former business partner …
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-flynn/good-to-go-top-trump-aide-gave-inaugural-day-ok-to-nuclear-plan-congressman-idUSKBN1E02KI

10/ "[T]he informant’s story adds new evidence that the project’s promoters believed that Flynn and Trump backed the plan for a consortium of U.S., Russian and French firms to build and operate 45 nuclear power plants in Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries" (i.e. UAE, Egypt...)

11/ Those plants are Step 1 to the Saudis/Emiratis having nuclear weapons—their ambition, along with a concurrent nuclear *dis*-armament of their enemy, Iran. They wanted Trump to pull out of the Iran deal to maintain the option of using force on Iran to destroy possible weapons.

12/ If you wondered why Trump pulled out of the Iran deal when *everyone* said Iran was in compliance with its terms—that's why. And that's why the Right had to turn the story of Obama honoring Iran's compliance by *giving it its own money back* into a fake "money-to-Iran" story.

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
7. Post about Israel are inapropriate for the General Discussion Forum - As stated in the SOP
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 06:53 PM
Dec 2018

The Statement of Purpose for the General Discussion forum says this:

Discuss politics, issues, and current events. Posts about Israel/Palestine, religion, guns, showbiz, or sports are restricted in this forum.

ETA - I misread the intent of the SOP restriction. So I unlocked this thread.

My mistake

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
8. I don't know this source, but it says Israel shot down a SAM from Syria, no damage to Israel
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 07:14 PM
Dec 2018
https://www.timesofisrael.com/syria-says-air-defenses-deployed-against-enemy-targets-near-damascus/P
...
Israel said Tuesday night it had deployed its air defenses against a missile shot from Syria as Damascus attempted to repel an alleged Israeli airstrike against Hezbollah or Iranian targets near the capital.

The Israel Defense Forces said there was no damage or injuries from the surface-to-air missile fired from Syria at Israel.........

ananda

(28,860 posts)
14. Sheesh. Just when ..
Tue Dec 25, 2018, 08:31 PM
Dec 2018

.. you thought Christmas might be a day of peace
and a celebration of our common humanity...
this.

MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
28. Who would have thought that abandoning our Kurdish allies would expose Israel to harm?
Wed Dec 26, 2018, 12:38 PM
Dec 2018

... just about everybody.

Whom do we favor now? Our NATO ally, Turkey, or our historic and culturally close ally, Israel?

Turns out having an adult in the White House would have been a better plan.

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