People need to take a deep breath before buying into crap about new Russian missiles

[zooks]

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Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me. i remember clearly back in the 90s before the first Iraq invasion watching a story on 60 Minutes about a massive canon Iraq had developed that could lob missiles into Europe. Another show in the weeks that followed revealed the horrific and repressive conditions in Iraq. I bought into all that. I remember clearly believing that 60 Minutes was a reliable news source. I thought the US was right to invade Iraq. Yeah stupid me but I thought the misery endured by Iraqis under Saddam Hussein needed to end. Well I was wrong - wrong about 60 Minutes, wrong about the invasion and its purpose.

Fast forward to Hussein's weapons of mass destruction and how every media outlet glommed on to that unquestioningly, how Judith Miller at the NYT acted as the mouthpiece for those who pressed for war. I didn't buy into that but i did wonder at times if those who claimed this was baseless weren't taken in by the madman. Well we all now know the whole thing was hogwash.

The Military-Industrial Complex only has its own interests in mind and those interests are at odds with everyone who isn't part of it.

I don't know what Russia has but I do find it odd Putin releases this info now. I have wonder if he is trying to throw Trump a lifeline that is give Donnie a way to look tough with Russia. I find the timing strange. Just sayin.

Anyway everyone might want take a moment to listen to the advice of Pete Seeger, Sonny Terry and Brownie McGee from 1963 to study war no more and talk to the Prince of Peace down by the riverside.

An amazing rendition

[NutmegYankee]

1. I don't get the panic.

The news was making a big deal about launching nukes, but we have submarines. It doesn’t matter if the missile is faster, any use is still MAD.

[zooks]

7. I worry about extremists getting their hands on material

to make dirty bombs not countries that face mutual destruction

[guruoo]

2. I was thinking it must be MIC feeding time again nt

[Hoyt]

3. Even a Scud missile -- with a nuclear warhead -- will work if it comes down to it.

[Sherman A1]

4. I recall the run up to Desert Storm and all the reports

that our helicopters wouldn't work in the climate as the sand would eat up their blades.

Somehow seems to have not happened.

[zooks]

5. Par for the course eh. It'd be interesting to see a list

of all they got wrong.

[GulfCoast66]

6. And this changes MAD how?

We have never and will never be able to stop Russia from an all out Nuclear strike. Been that way for 70 years.

[zooks]

8. It doesn't change MAD. Concern over this new weapon

strikes me as a way to whip up fear so as to justify armed aggression.

[GulfCoast66]

9. That. Or even more funds for the MIC.

Always some new toy to buy.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

10. massive cannon? Project Babylon

If you're referring to Gerald Bull's "massive cannon", it was real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon

[zooks]

11. Real maybe but Saddam never used it

[Kaleva]

12. Don't always have to use a weapon for it to be effective.