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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Ummm ... yeah ... I like Trevor and all, but they've been doing a few too many of these
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 07:29 PM
Dec 2018

kinds of skits lately ... I'm not a huge fan of the message here ...

By this I mean there's been a subtle undertone of 'black women just really want attention' thing they've had going on in all their skits with this particular actress ... falls a bit flat for me.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
3. I watched it but
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 08:57 PM
Dec 2018

I didn't get a subtle undertone of "black women just really want attention".
If there, that was too subtle for me to pick out.

What I do kinda get from not just this, but any "Permit Patty" "Golf Cart Susan" story is a subtle opportunity for white people to say, "I'm not racist because I'm not doing (fill-in-blank craziness)."

And then we don't have to look at things like white flight, which we very well may be doing or have done.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. Respectfully ...
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 09:52 PM
Dec 2018

Respectfully, I watch Trevors show a lot ... but I'm just not a fan of the schtick they have going with this actress ... here's another vignette, this one from earlier this month.



Fast forward to the 4:00 mark ... and consider that, along with the last bit of the episode at hand, and you'll see a 'theme' developing ...

Or at least I do.

I get what they're TRYING to do ... but they could do it a lot better, put it that way.

brush

(53,776 posts)
9. Huh? It's sardonic comedy from the 'hood. Maybe not your kind of comedy but quite funny IMO.
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:00 PM
Dec 2018

And what about the skit from the OP. Do you not see that the blatant racism of the BBQ Becky's of the world is totally deemed irrelevant by the poster?

Too much concentration on the character and not her message. Haven't you heard, Dems do well when they follow black women's lead.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. I'm extremely liberal when it comes to comedy, BELIEVE ME ...
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:26 PM
Dec 2018

And I'm not even saying 'it's not funny' ... and of course I'm willing to follow a black woman's lead, but this is an actress, not Coretta or Rosa here ... let's be real on that point, okay?

What I'm saying is ... each time they show this actress ... they'll have her make some good points ... but then ... ultimately ... they end up undermining her subtly ... she's desperate for a male's attention ... and then that ends up being the 'real comedy'.

Watch the OP, and then the other time they had this actress, which I posted for VP.

Do you see the common thread?

I feel like they aren't really taking the subject seriously on Trevor's show ... like I'd like them to.

That's my complaint.

brush

(53,776 posts)
11. Nah, IMO opinion you're missing it completely. She's not undermining her...
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 10:35 PM
Dec 2018

message at all with the so-called wanting male attention. She's just hitting on a vein of comedy that a lot of women get—not that many eligible catches out there. Remember she's a comedy actress, as you said, doing a skit that has a message but she also wants to get laughs.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. I'm not 'missing' anything, I just don't think we need that 'addition' to make it funny ...
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:47 PM
Dec 2018

Regardless of whether she's writing her part (which I kinda doubt but I don't know), or the show's writers are doing so ... what's the purpose of having her character seem to be someone who's beholden to male's attention? That IS a theme in both examples ... so ... why? I don't think it makes it funnier.

Just MHO ...

Happy New Year

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. Oh, okay, I'll do that.
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:01 AM
Jan 2019

I'm pretty sure that some would say 'this is kinda bullshit' ... especially if all this was written by men, for her to speak, and not by her personally.

And I'll tell you what, her appearance in the link I posted?

She damn sure looks like she's reading lines she's only seen 1 time before in her life. I don't think she wrote her part there.

Watch it again and tell me I'm wrong on that count.

I don't think this is 'her comedy', put it like that. But I could be wrong.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
12. I did watch that second clip
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:24 PM
Dec 2018

and I'm not mad.

But tbh I did not understand The Big Lebowski either.

I watched it like a dog watches television.

Sounds...lights...movement. Big sound!


And meanwhile no one will watch "My Dinner with Andre" with me for the 20th time...(Yes. It's boring but..but..)

(I bailed on Trevor Noah when he interviewed Tami Lahren with Christ-like patience. I admire that ability but..I don't find it "entertaining" exactly... chalk it up to preference.)











 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
15. Well, that's the problem, this is The Daily Show, & the standards are Jon, Stephen, Sam Bee ...
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 11:57 PM
Dec 2018

Ed Helms, Rob Corrdry, etc ...

And this is basically crap.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
18. I don't
Tue Jan 1, 2019, 12:42 AM
Jan 2019

watch any of it.

Nor SNL either.

When I laugh (pretty rare these days) it's totally organic, unscripted and far from the news/tainment industry.

Possibly the existential threat we face could be why Jon Stewart got out of the game? (?)

Comedy is hard. Political satire done well, double hard.
And political satire when politics have become satire?
Is all you have left palliative?

A little something to kill to the pain before we go to sleep?

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