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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:18 PM Aug 2012

If Assange isn't under threat then WHY is Interpol's "Red Alert" for him Still In Force?

(So Interpol wants him....and some think he is just a "grandstander" and not rightfully concerned about extradition or possible rendition. Seems a bit extreme since everyone knows where Assange is located and has offered to be interviewed in GB or the Embassy by the Swedish Government over charges of "sleeper rape.&quot


16 August 2012

INTERPOL Red Notice for Julian Assange remains in force

LYON, France – INTERPOL confirms that its Red Notice, or international wanted persons alert, issued for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at Sweden’s request in November 2010 remains valid.Confirmation that Mr Assange’s Red Notice status remains in force follows Thursday’s decision by authorities in Ecuador to grant asylum to Mr Assange, two months after he took refuge in its London embassy while fighting extradition from the UK to Sweden where authorities want to question him in connection with alleged sexual offences.

A Red Notice status is a request for any country to identify or locate an individual with a view to their provisional arrest and extradition in accordance with the country’s national laws.

Many of INTERPOL's member countries consider a Red Notice a valid request for provisional arrest, especially if they are linked to the requesting country via a bilateral extradition treaty. In cases where arrests are made based on a Red Notice, these are made by national police officials in INTERPOL member countries.

INTERPOL cannot compel any of its 190 member countries to arrest the subject of a Red Notice. Any individual wanted for arrest should be considered innocent until proven guilty.


http://www.interpol.int/

(Edited...because original title seemed "off base" as to what I was trying to say...An oopsie)

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If Assange isn't under threat then WHY is Interpol's "Red Alert" for him Still In Force? (Original Post) KoKo Aug 2012 OP
Maybe you didn't notice: the Swedes took out a warrant on him in 2010, to begin struggle4progress Aug 2012 #1
the most wanted suspect in history Swagman Aug 2012 #2
I don't know if it's "In History" but it seems like a Witch Hunt to Me..who lived through KoKo Aug 2012 #3
erm you do realise that hes australian, wanted by sweden now in the ecuadorian embassy in the UK loli phabay Aug 2012 #4
I read it that Assanges worries were true. With an "Interpol Red Alert" USA can KoKo Aug 2012 #5
still you realise that its sweden who have the warrant for him regardless of what you think the US i loli phabay Aug 2012 #6
Karl Rove is advising some in the Swedish Government. Remember "Torture Rove?" KoKo Aug 2012 #7
Rove is one of the good guys in this case.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #9
I didn't see an analysis or links as to how "Rove is one of the Good Guys in this case." KoKo Aug 2012 #11
lol i did the same thing, loli phabay Aug 2012 #13
I have a large screen... Fumesucker Aug 2012 #15
He is under threat. From Sweden... SidDithers Aug 2012 #8
What has he done that he's under Interpol Watch, though? KoKo Aug 2012 #10
not sure what you are asking here, He is wanted in Sweden for questioning, he left they put out a wa loli phabay Aug 2012 #12
You obviously haven't read the reams of articles about this case nor are familiar KoKo Aug 2012 #17
okay i guess its okay if millions of other males try to have sex with a sleeping women loli phabay Aug 2012 #19
You're skipping the trial part treestar Aug 2012 #20
My understanding is that most Western Countries accept "Innocent...Until Proven Guilty.." KoKo Aug 2012 #21
The interview is the one that immediately precedes an arrest tammywammy Aug 2012 #22
You would have needed to read all the info...and not from the Women's lawyer to know KoKo Aug 2012 #23
Even less to worry about then treestar Aug 2012 #24
BTW..."SID" I never see links or any dialogue in any of your posts that KoKo Aug 2012 #14
Is Sid still here..or he just didn't have time to answer...It's Dinner Time for many of us.. KoKo Aug 2012 #16
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #18

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
1. Maybe you didn't notice: the Swedes took out a warrant on him in 2010, to begin
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:22 PM
Aug 2012

a criminal complaint process. But he's not yet in Swedish custody, so the warrant is outstanding

That's why the Interpol page says:

... Red Notice, or international wanted persons alert, issued for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at Sweden’s request in November 2010 remains valid ...

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. I don't know if it's "In History" but it seems like a Witch Hunt to Me..who lived through
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:07 PM
Aug 2012

the Cold War! I lived through the McCarthy Era, too as a kid.

It's disgusting and I can't imagine any American not seeing what this is about and not be very afraid of the ramifications.

But, then, we've had decades of tearing down our Constitution........and students (our kids) have so little EDUCATION in Reflective Thinking or alternative views it's not unexpected...as sad as it makes us who lived through it all to see this happen in our Country.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
4. erm you do realise that hes australian, wanted by sweden now in the ecuadorian embassy in the UK
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:12 PM
Aug 2012

not sure why any american should be afraid of the ramifications of this Interpol alert. Now maybe down the line the US might want him.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
5. I read it that Assanges worries were true. With an "Interpol Red Alert" USA can
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:00 PM
Aug 2012

"scap him up" the minute he leaves Ecuadorian Embassy for a Hair Cut.

And...according to the Press Releases he only has "one room" in that Embassy and who knows where he showers or can eat.

The Embassy is not a traditional BUILDING devoted to Equador...but only a small apartment on one side of the building. It's all they could AFFORD!

So Assange is virtually a Prisoner in that space. He isn't being treated as inhumanely as Bradley Manning but for any of us here on this website to confine us to a small space would cause us to be in "torture."

And for WHAT? Why are he and Manny being so Persecuted by a US Government that I voted for with Obama? Where is the JUSTICE and FREEDOM that we voted in OBAMA instead of McCain?

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
6. still you realise that its sweden who have the warrant for him regardless of what you think the US i
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:04 PM
Aug 2012

is doing.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Karl Rove is advising some in the Swedish Government. Remember "Torture Rove?"
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:14 PM
Aug 2012

Unless you've forgotten Rove's Role in Bush Administration for promoting WARS, Rigging Elections and Dirty Deeds to get NeoCon Agenda to be the One that LASTS in US Foreign Policy?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. Rove is one of the good guys in this case..
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:17 PM
Aug 2012

No one is completely good or evil, just like Assange, it's obvious by the fact that quite a few DUers agree with Rove in this case.




































For the differently clued.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
11. I didn't see an analysis or links as to how "Rove is one of the Good Guys in this case."
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:31 PM
Aug 2012

Need some help with your post to understand where you are coming from.

OH...SHEESH...didn't see your alert because on my browser it scrolled down too far until I tried to re-read your post..thinking that I might have misread you.

MY BAD! Sorry!..

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. I have a large screen...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:43 PM
Aug 2012


I need it because I have at least forty windows open right now and most of them have been open for at least a week.

Why yes, I am ADD, how did you guess?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
8. He is under threat. From Sweden...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:16 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:32 PM - Edit history (1)

that's why he fought extradition for 2 years, and skipped bail and ran to the Ecuadoran Embassy when he'd exhausted all legal appeals in the UK.

Sid

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. What has he done that he's under Interpol Watch, though?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:29 PM
Aug 2012

Can you explain what you've read about this that convinced you? :shrug;

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
12. not sure what you are asking here, He is wanted in Sweden for questioning, he left they put out a wa
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:37 PM
Aug 2012

rrant for him, even if he just stole a car and did a runner then sweden could put out the request to have him returned. Now you might not agree that he committed a crime but you got to agree that Sweden has a right to request his return under the treatys that cover this stuff.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
17. You obviously haven't read the reams of articles about this case nor are familiar
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:09 PM
Aug 2012

with the testimony of the two women and the connections of them partying with Assange both Before and after the alleged incident of Julian waking one of the women up with a sexual arrousal in the middle of the night and she claims....."Sleeping Rape" on him.

Or that one of the women could be CIA "Honey Trap."

Most important thing is that both women slept with him and one was angry that Julian slept with the other and one retracted Rape and the other tried to back off the case. The Guardian and other newspapers were all over this because it was Sexual and Salatious and would get their readership up. The guy was doing what Millions of Males do the world over when women are happy to engage in consensual sex and the guy wakes up in the night and has a "hard on."

You need to read more from the International News to go back to the beginning with this.

But, INTERPOL has what seems to be a "Terrorist Warning" against this guy because he missed putting on his condom when he had a "night arousal?" THIS IS A TERRORIST that INTERPOL is after? And, you don't believe this guy has REAL FEARS along with Joe Lieberman and Stephen King calling for his Prosecution in the US and our President declaring Bradley Manning guilty of revealing secrets before the guy even had a TRIAL?


 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
19. okay i guess its okay if millions of other males try to have sex with a sleeping women
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:18 PM
Aug 2012

without a condom when she has specifically asked. I guess as long as he is a hero of some then who cares about the Swedish system. You do realise that a women can have sex with the same guy for years and if she says no one time then its still rape.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. You're skipping the trial part
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:20 PM
Aug 2012

Your post argues that well he's not guilty, so he shouldn't be extradited. That position means what, no government has any authority to charge crimes if the person is not guilty? Where is the decision made then?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
21. My understanding is that most Western Countries accept "Innocent...Until Proven Guilty.."
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:32 PM
Aug 2012

He hasn't been "charged" with a "crime"...only questioning. And Sweden refuses to allow any legal person for the two women to come to GB to interview Assange and depose Assange. He could even do a SKYPE with the Swedish Attorneys for the two women.

The two women are on record for not charging Assange with Rape...but that this is now an International Incident...does seem suspicious even to those with "little information" I would think.

He's not up for a TRIAL...he just supposed to answer questions. The info is out there on the internet if you care to go...but, it's all been posted here.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
22. The interview is the one that immediately precedes an arrest
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:37 PM
Aug 2012

That's why he left town, he knew he was going to be arrested. Sweden arrests much later in the investigation than the UK or US does.

Also, if they didn't want him to proceed to trial they should let their lawyer know that:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/20/julian-assange-asylum-tragedy-lawyer

Claes Borgström, who represents the two unnamed women with whom the WikiLeaks founder had sexual relations in Stockholm in August 2010, told the Guardian the women were frustrated and disappointed by Assange's decision to seek asylum rather than face investigation in Sweden over claims of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion.

"They are disappointed, but they are getting used to this by now," said Borgström, who has represented the women throughout Assange's sequence of appeals against extradition in the British courts.

"They know that all they can do is wait. I have told them I am not sure, but I think he will still be extradited … it is a tragedy for the women. I don't know how long it will take for him to be extradited now. Victims want to put these things behind them in order to be able to get on with their lives. The tragedy is that he doesn't take his responsibility. He should have come to Sweden."

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
23. You would have needed to read all the info...and not from the Women's lawyer to know
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:49 PM
Aug 2012

full scope of this. Many have just now turned their attention to Assange because of the weight of the coming election.

It's all been posted here...but we are all busy and don't have time to read everything.

I realize that "Women Against Rape" have a big stake in making sure that Assange is held accountable for his "Sleep Rape" and as a Female who has been involved in this stuff for deades I can understand. But, there's much more to this than defending consensual sex between "partners" (two women who were friends with Assange and happy to have sex with him (according to their statements) until he was bedding both and just read what Naomi Wolf has to say about her reading of the whole thing when it broke in Sweden about the strangeness of this case.

I posted it here on DU.. Maybe you missed it...I can send you the DU Link.

He didn't accost these women and drag them into his apartment and assault them. It's much more complicated than that.

Here's Link to Naomi Wolf's Review of the Assange Sweden/Women Case.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021143808

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. Even less to worry about then
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:54 PM
Aug 2012

You're saying "he's innocent, therefore no investigation should be done and he should not be questioned." Or even worse, if you will, because now you're saying not only can the "innocent" not be charged, they can't be questioned. Is there to be any law enforcement at all?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
14. BTW..."SID" I never see links or any dialogue in any of your posts that
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:38 PM
Aug 2012

would seem to say you even get involved in any discussions here.

Yet you are feared or revered.

I don't understand how that can be...that you never post more than a few words or or something else that seems to make some here feel that you either cannot or will not communicate your REAL VIEWS because all of the REST OF US...are just BENEATH your LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE..so it's not worth your replying to anything except with a few words or a jibe or an icon of humor.

Why are you HERE...if you don't want to engage in Discussion about any issue?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. Is Sid still here..or he just didn't have time to answer...It's Dinner Time for many of us..
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:59 PM
Aug 2012

Hopefully, he will get back with a reply...that isn't or "UnREC."

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