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question everything

(47,535 posts)
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:31 PM Jan 2019

What if we do agree to fund a wall - wait, wait, hear me out. Please.

We know that there are many landowners objecting to taking their land so, no doubt, they will go to court.

And, perhaps a judge will put a stop on any work until the issue is resolved. Each side will appeal, it may reach the Supreme Court and by then we could have a new president.

And, I think - I don't know - such appeals to the court may be easier than under a national emergency decision.

I don't know if there are any government employees here, but I do know that we cannot continue to use them to score a point. Yes, banks can wait for their payments, but not individual landlords nor other small businessmen and women.

Is this a case when Michelle Obama's "when they go low we go high" can come into place?

OK, start shooting..



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What if we do agree to fund a wall - wait, wait, hear me out. Please. (Original Post) question everything Jan 2019 OP
The problem with that is that it would just encourage Tiny to shut the government down The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #1
I know, and perhaps his continuing tantrum will open the eyes of many Republicans question everything Jan 2019 #3
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Foolacious Jan 2019 #15
Like velveteen says, this isnt really about the wall, it is but it isnt. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #2
Agree, but this may be the only way to nudge more Republicans to shift away from him question everything Jan 2019 #7
And it is easy for me to say NO wall while rump putin are purposely punishing and trying Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #11
If we were to agree to fund a wall, we could look forward to Trump shutting down the government Arkansas Granny Jan 2019 #4
Plus the wall is a testament to white supremacy, it SAYS that America is white Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #12
As I originally posted, we should be able to drag it throuh the courts question everything Jan 2019 #16
You are making a rational argument to help people in need and I appreciate that. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #17
Give Trump one dime, he will DEMAND..... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #5
No, not one goddamned dollar. Period. End of discussion. n/t X_Digger Jan 2019 #6
"but I do know that we cannot continue to use them to score a point." WeekiWater Jan 2019 #8
This whole issue is tantamount to letting Trump make legislation by decree ck4829 Jan 2019 #9
"dictate" legislation dawg Jan 2019 #13
+1 ck4829 Jan 2019 #14
Not one dime for the asshole BUT bluestarone Jan 2019 #10

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
1. The problem with that is that it would just encourage Tiny to shut the government down
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jan 2019

every time he wants something Congress won't give him. Never negotiate with terrorists.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
2. Like velveteen says, this isnt really about the wall, it is but it isnt.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:34 PM
Jan 2019

Putin actually really is in charge of our WH and for now our country.

He wants all investigations to stop and this does that and he wants to badly hurt our economy and all Americans.

So giving in would change nothing, there will be a new reason to do this again in a month or whenever the debt ceiling comes up.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
11. And it is easy for me to say NO wall while rump putin are purposely punishing and trying
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jan 2019

to destroy a million American workers.

But I know hostage takers when I see them.

Arkansas Granny

(31,531 posts)
4. If we were to agree to fund a wall, we could look forward to Trump shutting down the government
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jan 2019

anytime and every time he wanted something that wasn't supported by Democrats. If it works once, it'll work again.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
12. Plus the wall is a testament to white supremacy, it SAYS that America is white
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jan 2019

and proud to be white and nobody but whites are welcome.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
16. As I originally posted, we should be able to drag it throuh the courts
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:02 PM
Jan 2019

until he is gone.

And then, as we did with Prohibition, we change our mind.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
17. You are making a rational argument to help people in need and I appreciate that.
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jan 2019

But you see how it really doesnt matter who eventually wins on the merits, it is that he will do it over and over and over like a 8 yr old does when you give him a cookie when he doesnt deserve it.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
8. "but I do know that we cannot continue to use them to score a point."
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

We aren't using them to score points. That is just a secondary bonus for us electorally, hopefully.

There is a situation where I would be willing to fund the wall. It would be a part of comprehensive immigration reform. Not a chance we should give in on this one. This is a political stunt by an extremely desperate President.

ck4829

(35,091 posts)
9. This whole issue is tantamount to letting Trump make legislation by decree
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:39 PM
Jan 2019

Congress is supposed to pass the bills and the President either signs or vetoes them. There is no need for this negotiation process that McConnell suddenly wants and having the President OK bills before they even reach his desk.

We might as well throw the Constitution out the window if we agree to Trump's demands.

bluestarone

(17,043 posts)
10. Not one dime for the asshole BUT
Wed Jan 23, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jan 2019

At least ask him for his plan!!! I've seen NO PLAN!!! Lay it out RUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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