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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:30 AM Jan 2019

'Why Are They Always So Loyal?' Trump Was Convinced That Dems Would Cave

By Kate Riga

January 26, 2019 12:09 pm

President Donald Trump saw his convictions about loyalty upended over the shutdown, harboring shock that Democrats didn’t come over to his side and resentment that he couldn’t keep his own house in order.

According to a Friday Washington Post report, Trump had been operating under the belief that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) would be unable to keep her caucus in line as the shutdown progressed.

“Why are they always so loyal?” he reportedly complained in a staff meeting.

Trump also miscalculated the will of his own party, and voiced belated frustration with former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) for having “screwed him” by not securing wall funding when Republicans controlled all branches before he’d “gone fishing.”

Ultimately, the defection of six Republican senators who voted for the Democratic funding bill put Trump over the edge.

Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) dropped the bomb that his members were getting unruly; Trump eventually agreed that the shutdown had to end.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/why-so-loyal-trump-convinced-dems-would-cave

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Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
1. Trump doesn't understand that true loyalty is a two way street...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:32 AM
Jan 2019

All he knows are sychophants, whose false loyalty won't survive real tests of character.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
2. He doesn't understand loyalty that comes from the heart and strength of conviction
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:38 AM
Jan 2019

All he's ever known is the loyalty he can buy or bully his way into getting.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
4. Democrats fight within the family but we rally like a family
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:46 AM
Jan 2019

... and didn’t “Nancy” tell you not to underestimate the strength she brought with her caucus? I mean, she told you.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
6. He believed what years of FOX-watching programmed him to believe
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jan 2019

Ask Sean about that next time he calls you up to tuck you in and tell you a bedtime story, Donnie.

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)
7. Always?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:00 PM
Jan 2019

He really never pays attention to politics. I think the Democrats finally built a wall that Republicans need to finally contend with.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
8. Chaos and destruction just isn't a good strategy, Donny
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jan 2019

Not to mention the namecalling and hatemongering.
Look up 'consensus' in a dictionary.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
10. Unlike Trump, we have principles.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:46 PM
Jan 2019

He demanded we compromise our principles to reopen the government, and we told him to fuck off.

StatGirl

(518 posts)
11. It's not loyalty, it's unity
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:50 PM
Jan 2019

It isn't in Trump's worldview that someone could be loyal to a cause higher than a particular strongman leader.

(Why on earth would he think Democrats would come over to him? Was he offering them something that we don't know about?)

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
12. The GOP shutdown strategy is done.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 02:17 PM
Jan 2019

It’s dead and pinning for the fiords. It’s interesting to watch the GOP ,after having created a monster with a spray tan, fail to control it. They KNEW the shutdown was a failed strategy but they couldn’t stop their own monster. The monster stomped around and destroyed them. It also shows how incredibly vulnerable McConnell has become. He failed miserably to look out for his members and I hope the Democratic Party in Kentucky takes note.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
14. His "negotiating" tactics involve him bullying people until he gets what he wants.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jan 2019

If that fails, the loutish asshole is completely fucking lost.

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