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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:08 PM Feb 2019

Howard Schultz is reportedly 'freaking out' about the Democratic backlash to his presidential plans

Following the announcement that the billionaire former CEO of Starbucks, Howard Schultz, was considering a run as an independent candidate for the presidency in 2020 came a very predictable backlash. Apparently the predictability of that backlash was only understood by people without billions of dollars. With popular support for things like Medicare for all and increasing taxes on the wealthiest Americans and their corporations, it wasn’t surprising that a billionaire telling everyone that he didn’t really want to do those things didn’t get a joyous reception. According to outlets including Fox Business and Bloomberg, Schultz has put breaks on his soft rollout. Fox Business says Schultz is “freaking out” about the Democratic blowback he’s received, while Bloomberg reports that Schultz is saying he will only run “if he sees a plausible way to win the White House.”


[link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/1/1831461/-Howard-Schultz-is-reportedly-freaking-out-about-the-Democratic-backlash-to-his-presidential-plans|

Let us hope he is freaked out enough to put a stop to this nonsense
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Howard Schultz is reportedly 'freaking out' about the Democratic backlash to his presidential plans (Original Post) Soph0571 Feb 2019 OP
Good. He should drop the fuck out then. octoberlib Feb 2019 #1
Exactly.. nt helpisontheway Feb 2019 #20
I wonder about Steve Schmidt KayF Feb 2019 #2
Comcast will take Schmidt back. Marcuse Feb 2019 #3
Comcast? DownriverDem Feb 2019 #57
Vertical Integration. Advertisers are the customers. We are the stock. Pardon the Wikipedia. Marcuse Feb 2019 #62
Comcast? Don't you mean Comcrap? Quemado Feb 2019 #64
Schmidt goofed big time, when he supported Schultz vlyons Feb 2019 #5
Two strikes and the MF is out for me MLAA Feb 2019 #7
One strike for me Glamrock Feb 2019 #23
Hear Hear shadowmayor Feb 2019 #45
What really irks me Glamrock Feb 2019 #51
I just read your reply and really agreed with it and BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #48
Hahahaha! Glamrock Feb 2019 #54
My Italian grandmother did the same BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #59
Damnit! Glamrock Feb 2019 #63
Thanks! BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #66
That's actually not true Glamrock Feb 2019 #68
There's a governor in MD that would be happy to have him Renew Deal Feb 2019 #21
I listened to Schultz on Morning Joe vlyons Feb 2019 #28
"The GOP has only 2 things to offer us -- fear and loathing." Perfectly stated. erronis Feb 2019 #40
Schmidt lost his gig at MSNBC over this. OliverQ Feb 2019 #13
And that would be great if we could trust that the gig would stay lost... JHB Feb 2019 #17
And don't forget the impossibly smug Hugh Hewitt. calimary Feb 2019 #72
See what happens when we Dems stick together vlyons Feb 2019 #4
I like "vane idiot". How the wind blows. Vain Idjit also works! erronis Feb 2019 #41
He put a toe in the real world where we all reside Rorey Feb 2019 #6
Haha! appal_jack Feb 2019 #8
He's welcome to run as a Democrat maxsolomon Feb 2019 #9
Exactly exboyfil Feb 2019 #55
The Oval Office is not supposed to be a vanity prize for bored billionaires. Go home, Mr. Coffee... Hekate Feb 2019 #10
Going on 60 Minutes and playing the "both parties are the same" card bdjhawk Feb 2019 #11
The coffee's cold Blue Owl Feb 2019 #12
Keep the pressure on him ! OnDoutside Feb 2019 #14
how sad shanny Feb 2019 #15
Darn the luck Sherman A1 Feb 2019 #16
Breaking: Man with head up his own ass is disconcerted by the smell. JHB Feb 2019 #18
What is with these people - it has to be president or nothing??? Instead of "freaking out," go run Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2019 #19
That's what Jerry Brown did. Merlot Feb 2019 #71
I have two words for Herr Schultz geardaddy Feb 2019 #22
Why not use his time and money for a free school, like LeBron? SallyHemmings Feb 2019 #24
He should run as a republican. Mr.Bill Feb 2019 #25
Aw, is poor baby biwwionaire not getting the reaction his cloistered imagination thought he'd get? DRoseDARs Feb 2019 #26
In other news, clueless man discovers it's hot in the kitchen. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #27
No Independent can win even ONE state in the Elec College. Funtatlaguy Feb 2019 #29
stupid fucking asshole JI7 Feb 2019 #30
Cry me a river... MoonRiver Feb 2019 #31
Wake up and smell the coffee Schultz workinclasszero Feb 2019 #32
There is NO possible way you can win a general election. world wide wally Feb 2019 #33
+1 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #34
It's like the kid who goes into then Army at 18 but decides he wants to be a General. LOL. n/t monmouth4 Feb 2019 #35
Brakes. Iggo Feb 2019 #36
reportedly 'freaking out' - We already have Trump doing that. keithbvadu2 Feb 2019 #37
Are all rich people this dumb???? lindysalsagal Feb 2019 #38
Same question here Ftrump Feb 2019 #61
Hey, Howard, understand THIS: Goodheart Feb 2019 #39
Steve Schmidt showed himself to be a fool. madaboutharry Feb 2019 #42
Which goes to show Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #43
Howard shouldn't worry. He can get to the White House, without a doubt. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2019 #44
He knows nothing! Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #46
Let this be lesson to any and all assholes John Fante Feb 2019 #47
Run you ignorant self-important asshole. Do it. pangaia Feb 2019 #49
He probably had a nightmare about a #JustSayNoToStarbucks campaign to prevent his political ambition PubliusEnigma Feb 2019 #50
He's burnt and bitter. No amount of pumpkin spice, sugar, and cream will help IronLionZion Feb 2019 #52
The billionaire's road to the White House goes through the Kremlin rurallib Feb 2019 #53
People are not in the mood to fucking play Salviati Feb 2019 #56
We coming for you Howard. For you and your rich fucking friends. Hotler Feb 2019 #58
Fucking billionaires think they are 'the Shit' RainCaster Feb 2019 #60
I may be the only person SCVDem Feb 2019 #65
I just saw a poll that came out today about his favorability among OliverQ Feb 2019 #67
"The Democratic backlash" struggle4progress Feb 2019 #69
PROOF Schultz is unqualified Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #70

Marcuse

(7,528 posts)
62. Vertical Integration. Advertisers are the customers. We are the stock. Pardon the Wikipedia.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:56 PM
Feb 2019
MSNBC is an American pay television network that provides news coverage and political commentary from NBC News on current events. MSNBC is owned by the NBCUniversal News Group, a unit of the NBCUniversal Television Group division of NBCUniversal (all of which are ultimately owned by Comcast). MSNBC and its website were founded in 1996 under a partnership between Microsoft and General Electric's NBC unit, hence the network's naming.[3] Although they had the same name, msnbc.com and MSNBC maintained separate corporate structures and news operations. msnbc.com was headquartered on the Microsoft campus in Redmond, Washington while MSNBC operated out of NBC's headquarters in New York City. Microsoft divested its stakes in the MSNBC channel in 2005 and in msnbc.com in July 2012. The general news site was rebranded as NBCNews.com, and a new msnbc.com was created as the online home of the cable channel.[4]

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
5. Schmidt goofed big time, when he supported Schultz
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:22 PM
Feb 2019

He'll just find another GOP candidate to support a primary run against trump.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
23. One strike for me
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:12 PM
Feb 2019

Republican strategist. Period. That fucker helped build the base that got us into this mess. And, as expected the first chance he gets to fuck the Democratic party he takes. As if I'm shocked. I give two flying fucks if he badmouths Trump. He's got decades of experience fucking us over. And because he's on MSNBC saying things we like, I'm supposed to believe he's turned a new leaf? Fuck that asshole. Wallace too. They can both cry and wail about what's happened to their party till the cows come home. They built it. As far as I'm concerned they can both take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
45. Hear Hear
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:58 PM
Feb 2019

I'm with you on this one and I'm sure many more of us feel the same. I am stunned however, by the number of so-called liberal democrats that accept these repukes as allies simply because they run down herr drumpf or make appearances on MSNBC? All of them, and I mean all of them deserve only our opprobrium and ridicule. I feel queasy when I read statements on this sight about how Kristol, Will, Schmidt, and Wallace along with others are doing a great job and sound real smart. It's easy to detest the likes of Congress critters like Steve King or Louie Gohmert. What's truly insidious is watching these creeps slither into our tent while pretending to be on our side. An enemy of my enemy is not automatically my friend. Screw these assholes - they won't be on our side in due time. Why do so many democrats fall for these people?

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
51. What really irks me
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:18 PM
Feb 2019

Is these same folks will kick the shit out of any Democrat or Independant who has any criticism of our party, are gaga over these fuckers who actively worked against us for decades. I have no problem with disagreement about said criticism. But the pure unadulterated hatred for them, while embracing Republican strategists? WTF man?

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
48. I just read your reply and really agreed with it and
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:13 PM
Feb 2019

liked your choice of words. Then I looked to see who wrote it and it was you (well done Glam).

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
54. Hahahaha!
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:25 PM
Feb 2019

Thanks mama! And thank my Irish da and grampa. I was swearing fluently at age six.

Hope you're doing well mama. Been some time since we chatted.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
59. My Italian grandmother did the same
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:44 PM
Feb 2019

I can swear in fluent Italian and the accompanying gestures give it added emphasis.

Health...not so good. Quality of life issues surfacing again unfortunately.

Glamrock

(11,802 posts)
68. That's actually not true
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:18 PM
Feb 2019

Sending my love too. For whatever that's worth from some dude half a continent away. But it's there regardless if you can feel it or not. I'm heartbroken you're in pain.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. I listened to Schultz on Morning Joe
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:19 PM
Feb 2019

and I was completely UNDERwhelmed. Nothing but platitudes about how Dems and GOP should work together. Since when did the GOP ever want to work with Dems to help people in real life?

The GOP has only 2 things to offer us -- fear and loathing. And independents are fools to think otherwise.

erronis

(15,377 posts)
40. "The GOP has only 2 things to offer us -- fear and loathing." Perfectly stated.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:40 PM
Feb 2019

The repuglicons will even change colors and put on sheep's coats to look like they are not the loathsome vermin that they are.

Used to be I thought there were some reps with morals, standards, decency. Now I just don't care enough to talk to one of them to try to understand how they actively worked to undermine democracy and this country.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
13. Schmidt lost his gig at MSNBC over this.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:47 PM
Feb 2019

Definitely a dumb move, but I guess he figures he'll get paid big bucks from Schultz.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
17. And that would be great if we could trust that the gig would stay lost...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:55 PM
Feb 2019

...but the people in charge of hiring at MSNBC do have a tendency to have low standards for conservative commentators. Witness Hugh Hewitt, the fact that Schmidt was hired in the first place, and the frequent appearances by Bill Kristol.

calimary

(81,527 posts)
72. And don't forget the impossibly smug Hugh Hewitt.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 02:55 PM
Feb 2019

Probably first on my list in my little “If I Ran MSNBC” game would be to get rid of HIM! “Thanks so much, Hugh. Nice workin’ with ya but your contract isn’t being renewed...” and that old favorite: “we’re going in a different direction...”

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. See what happens when we Dems stick together
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:20 PM
Feb 2019

Schultz backing off tells me that raising taxes on the ultra rich, healthcare for all, and affordable college are winning are getting a critical mass of agreement.

Schultz is a vane idiot. His argument for being an independent tells that he has poor judgement.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
6. He put a toe in the real world where we all reside
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:24 PM
Feb 2019

And obviously had no idea what he was about to step into.

He should stick to brewing what some call coffee. (Not me. I do not like Starbucks. )

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
8. Haha!
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:27 PM
Feb 2019

Stuff it Fauxcacinno Grande!

(my new nickname for Schultz since he decided to insult Elizabeth Warren)

-app

maxsolomon

(33,431 posts)
9. He's welcome to run as a Democrat
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:34 PM
Feb 2019

Make your case for small thinking and limited change. Let the primary voters decide.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
55. Exactly
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:28 PM
Feb 2019

There is one thing I hope all Democrats (and many Independents) should agree on and that is we must get that monster out of the Oval Office. That is fueling most of the reaction. Also he is another unqualified plutocrat, but that is another thing.

Actually I think we will end up meeting someplace in the middle on taxes. The rates need to be higher, and the SS cap needs to be removed. Also some structure for the wealth tax. Just not at the rates that I am hearing.

Hekate

(90,858 posts)
10. The Oval Office is not supposed to be a vanity prize for bored billionaires. Go home, Mr. Coffee...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:39 PM
Feb 2019

Or run as a Republican and primary the hell out of TrumpPence.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
11. Going on 60 Minutes and playing the "both parties are the same" card
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:40 PM
Feb 2019

What type of response from Dems would any sane person expect?!! This “both sides are the same” crap pushed by the Russians and swallowed hook, line and sinker by Jill Stein backers and backers of certain other candidates played a huge role in getting the Rump into the White House. Sorry Howard, if you don’t support the Rump and want him out of office, this wasn’t the way to help.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
19. What is with these people - it has to be president or nothing??? Instead of "freaking out," go run
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:58 PM
Feb 2019

for school board or find some public service niche where you can really make a difference.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
71. That's what Jerry Brown did.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:07 PM
Feb 2019

Ran in Oakland, climbed back up the ladder (again) and became governor of California (again).

Not being a billionaire probably helped.

Mr.Bill

(24,334 posts)
25. He should run as a republican.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:16 PM
Feb 2019

It would be okay with me if he took out Trump in the primaries. Although I don't think trump will be running in 2020.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
26. Aw, is poor baby biwwionaire not getting the reaction his cloistered imagination thought he'd get?
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:17 PM
Feb 2019

eom

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,894 posts)
27. In other news, clueless man discovers it's hot in the kitchen.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:18 PM
Feb 2019

Maybe he should run for Congress first, in order to learn something about politics and government, and to get used to the idea that being rich won't insulate him from the same criticism all politicians deal with.

Funtatlaguy

(10,890 posts)
29. No Independent can win even ONE state in the Elec College.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:20 PM
Feb 2019

Ross Perot didn’t win one and he got 15% of the overall national vote.

At least Bloomberg realizes this.
Schultz needs to wake up and smell the coffee ☕️.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
32. Wake up and smell the coffee Schultz
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:24 PM
Feb 2019

Americans are sick and tired of being doormats for billionaire libertarian scumballs like you!

Get ready to pay some taxes rich bastard!

Ftrump

(27 posts)
61. Same question here
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:54 PM
Feb 2019

He must not be paying attention to the outcomes of previous presidential elections when independent left-leaning candidates, most recently, election fuckers Ralph Nadar and Jill Stein, ran in competition with democratic presidential candidates to the detriment of the latter

madaboutharry

(40,231 posts)
42. Steve Schmidt showed himself to be a fool.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:47 PM
Feb 2019

Another thing that deserves mentioning is back in 2008, Schmidt was initially dazzled by Sarah Palin. He sold her to McCain. Schmidt took responsibility for that boondoggle and most have given him a pass.
He seemed to present credibility with his horror over Trump. But, now he jumped on a ship that is sinking before it was even in the water.

Schmidt likes to talk in a bombastic voice that makes it seem like he has the smarts. Well, maybe not. His judgement is officially suspect.

Clash City Rocker

(3,402 posts)
46. He knows nothing!
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:59 PM
Feb 2019


About the lives of normal people, or about politics, or about how to make a decent cup of coffee! He knows nothing!

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
47. Let this be lesson to any and all assholes
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:00 PM
Feb 2019

who want to divide the Democrats in 2020: it's not going to fucking work this time!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
49. Run you ignorant self-important asshole. Do it.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:13 PM
Feb 2019

At this point I'd be willing to lay $$ on you drawing a lot more repuke votes than votes from normal, educated, caring, stable human beings...

rurallib

(62,462 posts)
53. The billionaire's road to the White House goes through the Kremlin
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:24 PM
Feb 2019

but you may want to move fast in assembling that staff. Seems many familiar with that path are taking a break ........

Hotler

(11,452 posts)
58. We coming for you Howard. For you and your rich fucking friends.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:44 PM
Feb 2019

Be lucky we're just going to tax you till your eyes bleed and not send the tumbrels for ya.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
65. I may be the only person
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:59 PM
Feb 2019

in America who has not spent a dime in a Charbucks!

Never have and never will!

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
67. I just saw a poll that came out today about his favorability among
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:05 PM
Feb 2019

Dems, Repubs, Inds.

He had 4% favorability with each group and 40-50% unfavorable. He is astoundingly unpopular among everyone. I think his campaign is going to crash and burn before he starts.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
69. "The Democratic backlash"
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:20 PM
Feb 2019


To know Schultz is to dislike Schultz, if we can believe the polling:

He's far underwater with everybody: down 27 with the I, down 39 with the R, and down 46 with the D

Only 4% of the folk, who've heard of him, like him -- regardless of whether they're D, R, or I

4% won't win ANY election, unless he has a major plan for deflating voter turnout


Roy Rolling

(6,941 posts)
70. PROOF Schultz is unqualified
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:51 AM
Feb 2019

He is surprised at Democrats' reaction.

Why would Democrats give a rat's ass what someone of another political party does? If he expected Democrats to cheer an Independent announcing a candidacy for president he knows nothing about politics. Seriously.

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