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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:22 PM Feb 2019

Statement from Northam apologizing for yearbook

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To add to the shock, a page from Northam's yearbook at the Virginia Military Institute listed one of his nicknames as "Coonman," a racial slur. Story from @Grace_Segers https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ralph-northams-yearbook-page-shows-man-in-kkk-costume-and-another-apparently-in-blackface/
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Statement from Northam apologizing for yearbook (Original Post) octoberlib Feb 2019 OP
Well I don't say this lightly but I think he should step down. manor321 Feb 2019 #1
But we forgive Kevin Hart. Tipperary Feb 2019 #14
Kevin Hart isn't a politician. Drunken Irishman Feb 2019 #20
Completely agree. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #61
I agree nt d_r Feb 2019 #79
he needs to resign, especially with a good Democratic Lt. Gov waiting in the wings. jezebel321 Feb 2019 #2
The legislature would pick the new Lt. Governor so that is a bad idea...35 years ago... Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #31
+1000 ehrnst Feb 2019 #56
Thanks Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #95
This is bad but Duppers Feb 2019 #65
well, this is the confirmation I've been waiting on. It is HIM in the photos--he needs to go. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #3
waiting for Virginia voters to speak Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #4
Well, I'm just one. I think it's awful and will defer to spooky3 Feb 2019 #26
"comedy" from even that recently is cringe-worthy now Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #82
One of my favorite sitcoms of the 1990s-early aughts spooky3 Feb 2019 #85
Another vote for stepping down. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #5
He was an adult when he chose to appear like this. madaboutharry Feb 2019 #6
This was definitely a Republican hit piece bringing this up. OliverQ Feb 2019 #7
This is his photo malaise Feb 2019 #17
He also ran on a campaign of tearing down Confederate monuments. OliverQ Feb 2019 #27
I want to rec this response but I can't. Rainbow Droid Feb 2019 #35
Actually you can somewhat, like +1000 or something else to show big agreement. Blue_true Feb 2019 #40
Everyone makes mistakes however, Brawndo Feb 2019 #41
So when I was 7 years old and carved a swastika on a bathroom toilet stall that makes me a Nazi? Rainbow Droid Feb 2019 #48
Were you a mature, sentient, doctor at 7 years old? Brawndo Feb 2019 #62
There's no perfect candidate, and people change. Lets not forget those two facts, Rainbow Droid Feb 2019 #86
I'm sure he does feel genuine remorse but Brawndo Feb 2019 #88
The situation you describe already exists, and I'm not suggesting we defend him. Rainbow Droid Feb 2019 #90
Of course people change malaise Feb 2019 #43
Yeah he should have mentioned, but my guess is he didn't remember OliverQ Feb 2019 #57
The party has to screen candidates more thoroughly malaise Feb 2019 #59
Especially when we make it so easy for them by eating our own. OliverQ Feb 2019 #60
None of mine dress up in black face malaise Feb 2019 #66
A Republican had to resign last week in Florida after appearing in blackface. octoberlib Feb 2019 #45
Yeah, the republicans made him pose for the photo....... Takket Feb 2019 #21
He also ran on a campaign of tearing down Confederate monuments. OliverQ Feb 2019 #24
ITA. LisaL Feb 2019 #28
Exactly! 👍 Duppers Feb 2019 #67
He should have owned up to this before now EffieBlack Feb 2019 #71
Maybe he didn't remember it? I doubt he looks at his yearbook from 35 years ago. OliverQ Feb 2019 #81
He doesn't remember putting on blackface or wearing a KKK robe and hood as a grown-assed man? EffieBlack Feb 2019 #83
Actually, if he resigns, as he should, the GOP loses Freethinker65 Feb 2019 #38
But that's what the GOP wanted. They want him out of office due to his abortion views. OliverQ Feb 2019 #58
I think they wanted him severely damaged to use him to paint all Democrats pro abortion on demand Freethinker65 Feb 2019 #87
Disturbing that he did something like that while in medical school. Fairfax will be a very Glimmer of Hope Feb 2019 #8
I voted for him and I don't care how sorry he is. I'm sickened and lilactime Feb 2019 #9
The political winds are against him. RDANGELO Feb 2019 #10
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnope. Fatal move. nolabear Feb 2019 #11
Bye bye n/t malaise Feb 2019 #12
The only thing I can say is this is the first republican apology i've Seen that was actually an MLAA Feb 2019 #13
He is a Democrat. madaboutharry Feb 2019 #15
Sorry, I wrongly thought he was a repug. Thanks for correcting me. MLAA Feb 2019 #91
That's because he's not a republican. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2019 #16
Thanks for correcting me. MLAA Feb 2019 #93
I mean given their track record. I can't blame people for assuming. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2019 #94
It is actually one of the few true apologies I have seen from anyone in any party. Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #47
What???!!! Duppers Feb 2019 #51
Sorry, thanks for correcting me. MLAA Feb 2019 #92
He needs to resign. Drunken Irishman Feb 2019 #18
Begone jberryhill Feb 2019 #19
I'm not young.. I remember 1984 backabby-blue Feb 2019 #22
He probably has to resign...but Buckeyeblue Feb 2019 #23
He should've have been open and up front about this standingtall Feb 2019 #25
Rick Wilson said the same thing. octoberlib Feb 2019 #32
You nailed it malaise Feb 2019 #46
This EffieBlack Feb 2019 #73
We don't need another Robert Byrd in the party. Sorry this happened. How did it go Hoyt Feb 2019 #29
he supports liberal causes right now unlike robert byrd JI7 Feb 2019 #33
I know. But there are people who support liberal causes that haven't done racist junk Hoyt Feb 2019 #37
Exhibit A; why Medical Schools shouldn't have Yearbooks. maxsolomon Feb 2019 #30
So you are saying if it is hidden it's ok. Blue_true Feb 2019 #52
I'm saying people have too many opportunities to parade their ignorance. maxsolomon Feb 2019 #68
Bye. Freethinker65 Feb 2019 #34
I knew better than that shit in 1984 ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #36
Me too, on the knowing better part Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #76
fuckin' a d_b Feb 2019 #80
How has he done since being elected ? OnDoutside Feb 2019 #39
Even before being elected governor, he had a good track record in regards to issues that Blue_true Feb 2019 #55
Thanks. I guess the next 24 hours will tell. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #64
Yes. His history is being examined right now. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #69
If that photo was discovered during his gubernatorial campaign he and we would have been sunk. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #42
I had the same thought. octoberlib Feb 2019 #49
I disagree - he could have explained how far he had come malaise Feb 2019 #50
I don't think so. LisaL Feb 2019 #53
He could have.......for all the good it would have done for his campaign. WillowTree Feb 2019 #75
It was 35 years ago. He probably doesn't even remember taking the photo. BlueStater Feb 2019 #78
If it wasn't a big deal that he doesn't remember, there's more where that came from EffieBlack Feb 2019 #84
Yeah.......What EffieBlack said............. WillowTree Feb 2019 #89
He had to know that he would never be president Renew Deal Feb 2019 #44
Time to place him on resignation watch. SaschaHM Feb 2019 #54
I can't believe this... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #63
How effed up does a school environment have to be that something like this slipped under EffieBlack Feb 2019 #70
Why would the school think this picture was okay to publish or that nickname? octoberlib Feb 2019 #74
I think he should resign. Goodheart Feb 2019 #72
Medical School??? Raven Feb 2019 #77
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. Well I don't say this lightly but I think he should step down.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:25 PM
Feb 2019

I was waiting for his statement for an explanation.

I think he should go.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
20. Kevin Hart isn't a politician.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:35 PM
Feb 2019

There is a double standard for that specifically. We can forgive Northam but demand he resign.

jezebel321

(278 posts)
2. he needs to resign, especially with a good Democratic Lt. Gov waiting in the wings.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:25 PM
Feb 2019

He was an adult when this happened and it wasn't the 1950s, no excuses.

Demsrule86

(68,735 posts)
31. The legislature would pick the new Lt. Governor so that is a bad idea...35 years ago...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:44 PM
Feb 2019

I say let it go.

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
65. This is bad but
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:13 PM
Feb 2019

Gov. (Dr.) Northam is a "good Democratic" governor. Ask any other Virginia DUer.

While a practicing Pediatric neurologist, he treated my son and I saw that his office was staffed with folks of color. And he was one of the nicest physicians I've ever dealt with.

What he did was *horribly stupid* but I'm judging his behavior from what I know about him in the last 25yrs.


spooky3

(34,505 posts)
26. Well, I'm just one. I think it's awful and will defer to
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:41 PM
Feb 2019

Persons of color about what should be done now.

I don’t agree with the talking heads who say that in 1984 we all knew better, however. There was a lot of “socially acceptable” racism (and sexism, and other isms) in attempts at humor, and some DUers may remember the Ted Danson blackface scandal that occurred 9 years *later.*

spooky3

(34,505 posts)
85. One of my favorite sitcoms of the 1990s-early aughts
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:34 PM
Feb 2019

Is Frasier, but the homophobia and slut-shaming alone in multiple episodes is hard to watch.

madaboutharry

(40,238 posts)
6. He was an adult when he chose to appear like this.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:28 PM
Feb 2019

It is inexcusable. He was a doctor graduating from medical school when he did this. He must resign.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
7. This was definitely a Republican hit piece bringing this up.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:28 PM
Feb 2019

They went after him over the abortion issue.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
17. This is his photo
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:34 PM
Feb 2019

Due diligence should have dug this up ages ago.
If he didn't have this in his past, it could not be exposed. 1984???WTF!

Bye bye!

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
27. He also ran on a campaign of tearing down Confederate monuments.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:41 PM
Feb 2019

Are you saying people can't change? Has he demonstrated being a racist since that photo?

You guys are saying that if absolutely any politician ever has even the slightest imperfection in their past, they should be kicked out of office even if they aren't like that anymore.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
35. I want to rec this response but I can't.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:48 PM
Feb 2019

My kneejerk response is OUT GTFO SERIOUSLY but this was 35 years ago and people change. I'm not the person I was in 1984, that's for damn sure...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Actually you can somewhat, like +1000 or something else to show big agreement.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:54 PM
Feb 2019

I agree with you and the other poster, Northam should stay unless something else comes up about him as a Doctor. As a Doctor in his state he was a champion of low cost and free medical care for poor people, including Black poor people.

Brawndo

(535 posts)
41. Everyone makes mistakes however,
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:56 PM
Feb 2019

most people's mistakes don't reveal an ugly soul. If you're a Democrat, you don't need to evolve on issues like this. Disqualifying.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
48. So when I was 7 years old and carved a swastika on a bathroom toilet stall that makes me a Nazi?
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:00 PM
Feb 2019

SPOILER ALERT: I had been reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and I found everything about WWII fascinating. Shortly afterward I learned the full scope of the Nazi crimes and the symbolism inherent in the mark and I never did it again.

But I guess the fact that I did it reveals an ugly soul...

Brawndo

(535 posts)
62. Were you a mature, sentient, doctor at 7 years old?
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:12 PM
Feb 2019

This was the unforced choice of an adult. For every one of him you can find many more with better sense and awareness of history, the bar for Democratic leaders can and should be higher. You went to an extreme to justify something that has no justification. Plus, it looks like the Lt Gov will be a step up anyhow.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
86. There's no perfect candidate, and people change. Lets not forget those two facts,
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:37 PM
Feb 2019

regardless of what Northam decides to do next. I'd prefer Fairfax for Gov as well, but lets not be so quick with the tar and feathers on someone who very well might have spent the past 35 years trying to undo his first 24. Look at his biography ffs.

Brawndo

(535 posts)
88. I'm sure he does feel genuine remorse but
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:44 PM
Feb 2019

consider what defending him will cost us. We will be somewhat persuasively accused of being hypocrites, this will result in bothsiderism on crack. I am unwilling to lose that argument with repuglicans. The cost of defending him greatly outweighs the benefit.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
90. The situation you describe already exists, and I'm not suggesting we defend him.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 10:19 PM
Feb 2019

I'm suggesting that if his family, friends, and co-workers don't defend him then he will go regardless. We don't have to do a thing. If they defend him who are we to override them? If they don't defend him then his career is over and it should be. We don't take that shit from anyone. But people grow, people change, and people make mistakes. Lets not forget that.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
43. Of course people change
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:57 PM
Feb 2019

He should have mentioned this photo himself during said campaign.
We're not talking 50s and 60s here - 1984. Just saying.
Black face and KKK are not slight imperfections.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
57. Yeah he should have mentioned, but my guess is he didn't remember
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:06 PM
Feb 2019

since he doesn't hold those views anymore. I couldn't tell you what's in my yearbook and I graduated a lot more recently than Northam.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
59. The party has to screen candidates more thoroughly
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:09 PM
Feb 2019

We all know ReTHUGs will do anything to destroy Dems.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
45. A Republican had to resign last week in Florida after appearing in blackface.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:58 PM
Feb 2019

It's up to the people of Virginia. The thing is Northam should have been up front about this crap when he ran.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
24. He also ran on a campaign of tearing down Confederate monuments.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:38 PM
Feb 2019

Maybe he changed and repented of his past?

If we keep getting rid of people who have a questionable background, Republicans are going to keep winning. Because there is no such thing as a perfect candidate. Republicans don't care if their candidates are horrible people. Dems just each other alive.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
71. He should have owned up to this before now
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:32 PM
Feb 2019

Not only should he not have waited until he got "caught," but his opposition to the monuments would have been much more powerful if he had shared his own history.

Freethinker65

(10,080 posts)
38. Actually, if he resigns, as he should, the GOP loses
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

His racism has knocked his abortion statements way off the front page, and he will no longer be governor.

Freethinker65

(10,080 posts)
87. I think they wanted him severely damaged to use him to paint all Democrats pro abortion on demand
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:39 PM
Feb 2019

He would be gone as their punching bag. And the fact that he resigned unlike say, Rep. Steve King, will not be forgotten.

Justin Fairfax, Democratic lieutenant governor, would become governor.

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
8. Disturbing that he did something like that while in medical school. Fairfax will be a very
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:31 PM
Feb 2019

good and popular governor.

lilactime

(657 posts)
9. I voted for him and I don't care how sorry he is. I'm sickened and
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:31 PM
Feb 2019

horrified and I can't unsee that. There is no excuse for this. None.

He needs to go.

RDANGELO

(3,435 posts)
10. The political winds are against him.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:31 PM
Feb 2019

This isn't one of those if I offended somebody oligopolies. He sounds like he sincerely regrets it. I don't think he should have to resign, but that is what probably will happen.

MLAA

(17,346 posts)
13. The only thing I can say is this is the first republican apology i've Seen that was actually an
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:33 PM
Feb 2019

apology. I am not saying he shouldn’t step down, just sayin there were no wiggle words including the ubiquitous ‘if I offended’ anyone’

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
47. It is actually one of the few true apologies I have seen from anyone in any party.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

Because he has sincerely offered a real apology, I hope decisions regarding stay or go will be made based on whether his actions since then have demonstrated real change - and efforts to not just not offend - but to proactively work for racial justice and equality in ways that are welcomed by POC.

I am not a POC, but I am a member of the LGBT community. Pretty much no one in politics is pure on the issue of LGBT equity - if I excluded anyone who ever behaved in an offensive way to my community as fit for office, there would be no one fit for office. I believe in the possibility of change. We witnessed that in Barack Obama as to LGBT rights. This apology is a good starting point.



 

backabby-blue

(144 posts)
22. I'm not young.. I remember 1984
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:36 PM
Feb 2019

This was not ok in the circles I ran with in 1984. No way, no how. RESIGN now.

Buckeyeblue

(5,504 posts)
23. He probably has to resign...but
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:37 PM
Feb 2019

I think it's important to judge a person on who they are not who they were.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
25. He should've have been open and up front about this
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:39 PM
Feb 2019

He should of just told voters he was a racist jackass in his past, but he has changed sense then and this wouldn't have been necessarily disqualifying. Now he is probably going to have to resign.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
46. You nailed it
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

He should have brought it up when explaining why he would support tearing down the confederate statues.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. We don't need another Robert Byrd in the party. Sorry this happened. How did it go
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:42 PM
Feb 2019

this long? Damn.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
37. I know. But there are people who support liberal causes that haven't done racist junk
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019

like that. This does not help the Party, and ought to tick people off.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
52. So you are saying if it is hidden it's ok.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:02 PM
Feb 2019

Parents should teach their kids that they live in a diverse world and that before they take any action, they should consider all the consequences.

Northam appears to have had an exemplar pry life post Medical School. I don't think that he should resign, but if there is other shit out there, he would know that and step down to avoid issues.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
68. I'm saying people have too many opportunities to parade their ignorance.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:15 PM
Feb 2019

And that if you have, in any way shape or form, the GOP opposition research will find it.

He should have known better at every step of the way: putting on the costume, going out in public dressed like that, posing for a photo, developing the film, putting this in print on his freaking Yearbook page, not thinking his candidacy through knowing this was in his past.

now he's just another club for the GOP to bludgeon Dems with.

we point out actual racist policies like child separation, they point at Northam. "oh well, both sides" say the flibberdigibbet independent voters.

Bradshaw3

(7,536 posts)
76. Me too, on the knowing better part
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:50 PM
Feb 2019

Not on the drug part. But dressing up in a KKK costume or blackface? I just wouldn't have done something like that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
55. Even before being elected governor, he had a good track record in regards to issues that
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:06 PM
Feb 2019

affected Black people. His life over the 35 years should be considered, if there is more of this out there, he should step down because he would know that.

malaise

(269,237 posts)
50. I disagree - he could have explained how far he had come
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:02 PM
Feb 2019

and why he was now against the confederate statues. Would have been an excellent move.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
53. I don't think so.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:03 PM
Feb 2019

Democrats don't seem to be forgiving of any transgressions, no matter how long ago, do they?

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
78. It was 35 years ago. He probably doesn't even remember taking the photo.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:52 PM
Feb 2019

If he was a racist back then (and more evidence that's coming out seems to suggest that he was), he probably didn't think it was a big deal at the time and completely forgot about it.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
54. Time to place him on resignation watch.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:05 PM
Feb 2019

Seems harsh, but he has a democratic Lt Gov. He can't run in 2021 anyway and w/ the direction of the party wasn't going to be the 2024/2028 nominee or 2025 gov nominee for that matter.

He's in the "why are you still here" category of politicians going through scandals. The only people to facing any potential consequence from his decision to stay in office are 2020 candidates that need the state of VA.

Mike Nelson

(9,975 posts)
63. I can't believe this...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:13 PM
Feb 2019

… this was 1984! … and there was Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh's yearbook... I have my HS and College yearbooks... there was nothing like this... and I was out before 1984. We did crazy stuff in college, but I'm just really not understanding this... his apology is a start, I guess...

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
70. How effed up does a school environment have to be that something like this slipped under
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:29 PM
Feb 2019

the radar for 35 years. No one thought this was a big deal? Not one person in his class? No one on the faculty or in the administration? No one who had reason to look at the yearbook in the last 35 years?

Seriously?

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
74. Why would the school think this picture was okay to publish or that nickname?
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:38 PM
Feb 2019

Stuff like this must have been going on all over the schools and faculty was okay with it. Northam should have brought this up 12 years ago when he first ran and said he's changed. Now Julian Castro is calling for his resignation.

Raven

(13,906 posts)
77. Medical School???
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 08:50 PM
Feb 2019

Not college, not high school, medical school? Isn't that the place where you vow to do no harm? I'm beginning to really despair for this country.

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