We are really heading towards a dangerous slippery slope with 2020 just around the corner

[BlueintheSTL]

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This will allow the GOP to exploit this with false accusations all over the place. It is not hyperbole to say this could very well be the Russia of 2020. No one should ever resign without due process. This is a terrible precedent that will end up biting a lot of people in the ass going forward. I really wish some in the party would stop jumping to conclusions without a complete and thorough investigation first. This is very concerning going forward.

[empedocles]

1. Agreed

[moondust]

2. Agree.

Just posted something similar in another thread that the GOP probably latched onto the Franken example as an easy way to get rid of their enemies.

[2naSalit]

3. K&R

[standingtall]

4. Yep I think some are naive to think this is not a vulnerability that republicans

can and will exploit.

[ecstatic]

5. I've already made peace with the fact that we're likely screwed in 2020.

The zero tolerance with regard to non-criminal actions from 30+years ago is a ridiculously high bar to clear, and it actually eliminates at least half of the people already running.

Regarding Fairfax, I haven't read the second accuser's statement, but I believe the first accuser. The 2nd accuser now makes it a pattern and if true, it's disgusting, criminal, and he should resign, despite the tragic timing.

[BlueintheSTL]

7. Why in the world should he resign without due process?

What if this was a son, husband, brother etc? Would you treat it the same way just solely on accusations?

[ecstatic]

8. I agree, there should be due process.

That's why I said, "if true" he should step down. However, the anecdotal accounts from peers are piling up.

[BlueintheSTL]

9. Sorry I overlooked the "if true" part of your statement

[JCMach1]

6. It has always been so for Dems

Did you guys forget Gary Hart? Staged pic ratfuckery...

[Awsi Dooger]

10. Al Franken was like a test case

Then once that was so successful, no need to abuse it and tip your hand in 2018, as opposed to saving it for the big prize later.

I remember when Jeffrey Toobin predicted more than a year ago that our 2020 nominee would face every conceivable attack, including some type of investigation prompted by Trump. Even without the House I think he'll attempt that.

But much easier to merely line up a string of liars. Get them on the talk shows and in commercials. Trump had truth-tellers against him in that spot. I guarantee he took notes on how he could use that type of thing to his own advantage. He won't shy away from any type of lie or cheat.

This is also like attacking the strength...the Democratic strength of near-zero tolerance.

[BlueintheSTL]

11. Good points

Which is why I am hesitant to support a male candidate. I guarantee this will happen no matter whether its Biden, Beto Booker etc. It is really unfortunate but that is just the reality of the world we live in now.

[customerserviceguy]

13. When I first got to the University of Washington

back in 1974, somebody had spray painted the front of the law school building with the phrase, "All Men Rape". It was seen as an extremely fringe position to take at the time, but your response tells me that it's moving into the mainstream.

It was kind of weird to me to be accused simply because I was a member of the male gender, especially since I still had my virginity at that point.

[customerserviceguy]

12. Booker is just one false accusation away

from having to eat his words. I'm glad that I'm not either rich or famous.

[McCamy Taylor]

14. If we do not get our shit together we are fucked.

Sorry for the language but the fate of the world is at stake and we are being divided and conquered into extinction.

[Blue_Tires]

15. Sadly this is going to fall on deaf ears...

[BlueintheSTL]

16. Yes I am sure the Republicans are already getting prepared for ANY male prespetive candidate

This is one reason I am becoming more and more supportive of Harris' candidacy. It negates one less attack.

[BlueStater]

17. I agree that there should be an investigation.

Asking him to resign without one is continuing a terrible precedent that started with Franken. And this is coming from somebody whose opinion is presently leaning more towards him being guilty than innocent.

[Trenzalore]

18. We literally have a President that said on tape he likes to sexually assault women

He is on the record of barging into the dressing room of teen beauty contests so he could gawk at the young girls.
He is on the record of having had two affairs with adult stars while his wife was pregnant with his son.
He is on the record of creating a fake University to defraud people.
He is on the record of having violated campaign finance laws to hide affairs with adult stars.
He is on the record of having gone bankrupt multiple times.
He is on the record of not paying contractors and employee.

I could go on. Republicans don't care what Trump did. He won and they stand behind him. He is probably the worst human being to hold the office since slavery was legal.

Democrats need to stiffen their fucking spines. If Fairfax is a rapist and the allegations are credible he should of course resign but this business that has happened with Franken etc is ridiculous.

[Awsi Dooger]

19. It would be a more sturdy ledge without "Coonman"

I'd like to hear more about that tag. There has to be someone who remembers.

[moondust]

20. Some serious investigations

could do a few things:

1. Get to the bottom of accusations;

2. Discourage some prospective ratfuckers if they know they may be investigated, found out, and held accountable for their defamatory lies;

3. Discourage some politicians and others from continuing to deny accusations they know to be true if they know they may be found out and have to face the music;

4. Maybe even do some preventive maintenance in keeping some bad actors from seeking the spotlight in the first place.


It might be worthwhile to solicit from Snopes, Politifact, etc., any recommendations they might have on how to go about investigating these kinds of things given limited time and resources.

It's just too easy to libel, slander, and propagate lies these days without consequences.