Hundreds rally to preserve right not to vaccinate children amid measles outbreak

[workinclasszero]

By CARTER EVANS CBS NEWS February 8, 2019, 6:57 PM

Olympia, Wash. — With more than 50 cases of measles in Washington state, there's been a new push to change the law. Washington is one of 17 states that allow parents to refuse vaccines for philosophical reasons.

But on Friday, hundreds rallied to preserve their right not to vaccinate their children. Lawmakers heard arguments on a proposed bill that would ban the measles vaccine exemption for philosophical reasons. Thirty-two other states have similar laws.

Measles is so contagious that an unvaccinated person has a 90 percent chance of catching the disease if they're near someone who has it. The virus can survive for up to two hours in a room where an infected person sneezed.

Measles vaccination rates here, at the epicenter of the outbreak, are now up by 500 percent.

But opponents of the bill still think the measles vaccine is a bigger threat than the disease itself.

"I don't feel I'm putting my child at risk. There's nothing that's going to change my mind on this on that specific vaccination," said mother Monique Murray.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/washington-measles-outbreak-hundreds-rally-to-presesrve-not-to-vaccinate-children-2019-02-08/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=63395701

[RKP5637]

1. We live in a country where many people are stupid, uneducated (really) and easily led. I never ever

used to think this, but after the past decade plus, what else can one conclude. The internet has revealed the stupidity of many.

[dugog55]

13. The internet

has fed into the stupidity of people. They read items on FaceBook or some blog and think the writer is an expert on their material. When in fact, they too are morons spreading misinformation.

[RKP5637]

17. Excellent!!! Yes!!! "The Stupid" becomes contagious, spread by the internet. And, whoever thought

the President (supposed) of the US would manage his office by the Internet with Twitter.

[Docreed2003]

23. +1.

I never cease to be amazed at the capacity some people have to act like morons, and these are morons.

[OregonBlue]

24. Not necessarily stupid but naive. My ex daughter-in-law

Recently asked me what I thought about her getting her new baby vaccinated because she had heard the vaccines were so dangerous.

She seriously had no idea how serious childhood diseases can be and how nuts it is to take a chance with your child's life.

We had a good talk and I told her to go read the information put out by the Mayo Clinic on vaccinations.

She did and she has gotten them all. Turns out one of the grandmothers is a religious kook who was scaring her to death with false mumbo jumbo and she fell for it.

[RKP5637]

33. Great!!! She is very lucky to have you. There is just so much misinformation and lies it's

unbelievable!!!

[OregonBlue]

35. I was shoched. She is not stupid but took what she

had been told at face value. I did ask her to please call me any time about those sorts of things because I didn't think she should trust the grandmothers opinion.

Fortunately she agreed.

[unitedwethrive]

27. It's the 'uneducated and easily led' part of your statement that is the problem.

The repubs do everything they can to defund and degrade public education, making those who can't afford private schools a perfect target for their campaigns of persuasion.

[RKP5637]

34. The GOP is a disgusting lot!!! n/t

[OregonBlue]

37. Yes. What if she had not asked me and listened to her

scary Evangelical in-law.

[samnsara]

2. fine.... just keep your buggy grand kids away from my grand kids

[RKP5637]

5. Same here ... those that pin a badge on themselves as not vaccinated and then become disease

carriers. I feel sorry for the kids, they have really often no choice.

[workinclasszero]

8. In my mind, this is clearly child abuse

If a parent beats their child, they go to jail and possibly lose custody of that child.

No arguments about that, right? And this effects one family only.

These anti vax idiots not only willingly expose their own children to killer diseases, they expose every man, woman and child that infected kid comes into contact with!

[RKP5637]

19. Definitely!!! Well said!!!!!! n/t

[Dennis Donovan]

3. How many bridges were purchased in the rally?

No tolerance for anti-science kooks. How many of them also think that Climate Change is a hoax?

[Garrett78]

14. Not very many. They are very selectively anti-science.

[Coventina]

4. Please, now that these morons are all in one place...can we get someone with chickenpox in there?

Just to make them realize how stupid they all are?

Is that kind of biological warfare illegal?

[RKP5637]

7. Soon they'll want to bring polio back. n/t

[Srkdqltr]

9. Problem is that the children will suffer.

[Coventina]

11. Yeah, sadly, it's their parents who don't seem to care!

[dflprincess]

20. For the most part their parents probably had parents

who vaccinated. None of them ever experienced measles or other "childhood illnesses" and they never knew anyone who had polio. They are clueless.

[Coventina]

21. True, they never had to experience what a horror measles can be.

Me and my siblings were all vaccinated, but for some reason my brother got the measles anyway.
(Not anytime close to the vaccine, so it wasn't a reaction).

My mother was furious!

And, I remember how sick he was!!!

And, he was probably actually lucky and had a "mild" case, because of the vaccine he had.

[Aristus]

36. And that's what anti-vaxxers refuse to understand.

A partial immunity can be the difference between life and death.

[TEB]

6. Idiots

[milestogo]

10. You should have the right not to vaccinate only if

you are also planning to home school your children and keep them out of public places.

[Garrett78]

12. I love the Pacific Northwest, but...

anti-vaccination and anti-flouridation are serious problems.

[Brawndo]

15. Yeah and Typhoid Mary felt strongly as well

she was still forced into isolation. Your rights end where the rights of others begin.

[SunSeeker]

16. Idiots. Endangering people's lives.

[UniteFightBack]

18. I think it you're child dies Ms. Murray that would change your mind on this topic. nt

[pandr32]

22. Good grief

Many of us have autoimmune diseases. This makes no sense in a "civilized" society/first world country. I guess we are no longer there.

[smirkymonkey]

25. Why are these people so dense?

And so impervious to scientific findings? They are just willfully ignorant and not only are they endangering their own children, but they are endangering the community around them. I just don't understand them.

[lark]

26. Stupidity in Americans seems to have no lower boundary.

No, just fucking N.O. Your non-immunized child could endanger my or other people's children so is not to be tolerated.

[Renew Deal]

28. Monique Murray is the reason laws exist

To keep maniacs like her from sickening her community, killing someone in a drunk driving accident, etc.

It’s hard to argue that Monique Murray truly loves her children when she allows them to be used as public experiments for ignorance.

[Olafjoy]

29. Rally

Nothing like getting a big group of people TOGETHER during an epidemic

[NurseJackie]

30. They're a menace to public health. Quarantine them.

[marlakay]

31. We need better ads and media in the worst

Areas of non vaccinated done by doctors and scientists showing the vaccinations are safe.

Its all about belief systems, and they don’t vaccinate because they believe the vaccinations are worse and will harm their kids more.

Just saying do it because you have to will make people fight.

[Wounded Bear]

32. "Please don't cloud the issue with facts."

[3catwoman3]

38. At the pediatric office where I work, I can usually...

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...tell within about 3 sentences if I stand the proverbial snowball’s chance in hell of changing a vaccine-reluctant parent’s mind. Most of the time, it is an exercise in futility. Moses could come down off the mountain with new stone tablets declaring vaccines safe, and those who do not wish to be convinced would not be.

Some years ago, I attended a dinner presentation where the guest speaker was a well-regarded pediatric immunologist. He said he was often asked about the timing/spacing of vaccines, and I loved his answer - “When people aske me how far apart vaccines should be given, I tell them 1/4 of an inch.”

My eldest cousin is a major figure in the anti-vaccine movement. she heads up the deceptively named NVIC - National Vaccine Information Center.

i am a pediatric nurse practitioner. Obviously, we are on opposite sides of this topic. Good thing we don’t live near each other.

[KWR65]

39. Some Parents Believe you can cure childhood cancer with vitamins and ointment.

That doesn't mean we should allow them to let their kid to die without proper treatment.

[Johnny2X2X]

40. They are putting other people's children at risk.

You innoculate the population so that those who can be vaccinated don’t get sick. So these idiots have children who might come into contact with children too young to be vaccinated or ones with other health problems that prevent them from getting vaccinated. Those other children’s lives are at risk.

This is child abuse.

[OnlinePoker]

41. High profile anti-vax assholes like Robert F Kennedy jr. keep people from doing the right thing.

Anti-vaccine activists packed a public hearing Friday to oppose a bill that would make it harder for families to opt out of vaccination requirements for measles, mumps and rubella amid the state’s worst measles outbreak in more than two decades.

An estimated 700 people, most of them opposed to stricter requirements, lined up before dawn in the cold, toting strollers and hand-lettered signs, to sit in the hearing, which was so crowded that staff opened up additional rooms to accommodate the crowd. Many gathered outside afterward for a rally.

Anti-vaccine activists, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a prominent vaccine conspiracy theorist, claimed that health officials are covering up vaccine dangers. Some said their children had been injured or sickened by immunizations. One falsely said the majority of people diagnosed with measles have been vaccinated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/02/08/washington-measles-outbreak-draws-crowd-hearing-vaccine-law/?utm_term=.cfd67da57091