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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOH FFS: Mika on Pence..."What has haaaaaaaaaaaaaappened to him?"
That's right, Mika. All of a sudden, totally out of nowhere, Mike Pence has become a hypocritical prick.
Morning Joe played a 2014 clip with Pence "urging" Obama to work with the "newly minted Republican congress" to find common ground and not circumvent them with executive actions.
Cue hand-wringing concern troll Mika.
backabby-blue
(144 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)a light was shined on Pence, he is a cockroach, always has been.
DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Just like he does to anyone else who comes too close to the soul-sucking event horizon and winds up crushed in the evil singularity that is donald j trump.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)DirtEdonE
(1,220 posts)SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Trump is nothing but a Super Massive Black Hole within the human species that you so eloquently described!
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)crazytown
(7,277 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)But wasn't it a good thing calling him out? Have to say he seemed 100% different in 2014. He now looks like he's in a hypnotic spell. Staring into space. He is on God's mission now. Like a cult follower. Facts don't matter.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)The "what happened" comment. That's why I posted it. Yes, absolutely, show the clip and call him a hypocrite, because that's exactly what he is.
What I didn't like about it was her asking "what happened." NOTHING happened. It was Pence being Pence. Nothing changed. By asking "what happened," there's the implication that he changed into something lesser than he was. No, he didn't. He's the same snake he's always been.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)Pence has not changed a bit...He is currently playing the role of an obedient brain washed zombified staring off into space TRUMP CULT member ONLY because he is convinced it will pay huge dividends down the road...PRESIDENT PENCE!
JHB
(37,161 posts)But if you want to advertise that you couldn't see the obvious, please proceed.
Zoonart
(11,878 posts)MIka and Joe are REPUBLICANS. They hate MF45 but they are REPUBLICANS. AS with many of the "specialists' employed on MSNBC daily to derail the serious policy conversations we need to be having in this situation.
They are the grave robbers that brought the body parts to the GOP lab and now they do not like the way the monster turned out. But it's a presidential election cycle now and it's time for more Republican corpses to be reanimated... time to stitch together a new and better monster.
Bothsiderism is abroad in the land once more. Steve Schmitt is already shilling for his own monster...which Republican will Jennifer Rubin reanimate? or Michael Steele?
They are not our friends. They are a big part of the manufacturing of this disaster.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Zoonart
(11,878 posts)I appreciate the kudos, but I am a fiction writer and a paniter and those pursuits are all I can handle.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She's a moderate, from what I can tell, like many Democrats. Her background, though, is as a lifelong Democrat. Her father worked in the LBJ and Carter administrations, a highly respected foreign policy expert.
If you don't know she's a Democrat, I wonder how you can express an opinion on her or the show. ???
Mika and Joe did nothing to enable the Trump election. In fact, in 2016 they were one of the highest-profile, highly-watched anti-Trump shows in the country. If you watched the show regularly, you'd know that.
Instead of criticizing, you should thank them.
Zoonart
(11,878 posts)She and Joe helped create this monster. They were all in until MF45 slandered her in public. I don't care what her voter registration is.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)In 2016 they were anti-Trump, once he won the nomination. Before then, no one thought he'd really win the nomination....except Joe did seem to realize that Trump might win the nomination, unlike many others. Joe was establishment Republican who supported Jeb Bush, but as a Republican, he could see what was happening.
When you watch Mika, you are watching a fairly typical Democrat on the issues.
If you watched the show regularly, you'd understand it. They had all the presidential candidates on, if they wanted to appear. It wasn't a political talk show where they would be hostile to their guests. They'd have a candidate on, ask questions (including some hard questions), but their job was not to argue with them. That changed when Trump got the nomination. They no longer had him on, and took an anti-Trump position.
You should send an email and thank them. They had a lot to do with letting the general public know what Trump was about. Millions watch their morning show who do not watch evening political talk shows.
Zoonart
(11,878 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)As an establishment Republican, he did see some things that the public at large didn't see. He supported Jeb Bush, but acknowledged along the way that Trump could win the nomination, when it got closer to the primary. And he was right.
They are not a partisan show like the late night talk shows. They don't present one viewpoint, and that can be tough to watch. But it's important to hear it.
I have watched the show almost every day since it started. I know the positions of both of them very well. I know the show very well. I used to keep it on while getting dressed for work every day. Many people see it occasionally or have seen clips, which doesn't present a complete picture. It would be like the only impression of Rachel's show is to watch a few clips. I saw one show where she actually got some facts wrong. That's unusual for her, for if someone saw that one show, they would not have had a good impression of it. I love the Maddow show, and I watch it regularly, so I know what she and her show are like because of that. She's the best at getting facts right and putting them all together and presenting them in a simplified manner.
I don't like Mika personally. But to say she's a Republican shill is just flat wrong. She is a moderate Democrat, and that is a fact.
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stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I've watched the show almost every day since it began. I know a lot of about the show and both of them.
Mika is a moderate Democratic morning political talk show. She is the second banana. Joe, whose show it was from the start, was establishment Republican. They have both Democrats and Republicans on their show. It can be hard to watch for those who are used to watching only one viewpoint, whether Democratic or Republican. That's not what their show is.
Mika's father served in Carter's administration. Mika has said nothing but nice things about Carter. As you know, Republicans hate Carter. Her father also served as an advisor to LBJ.
Joe is a typical establishment Republican. He shows respect both to Republicans and to Democrats who appear on his show, and genuinely likes many Democrats. Obviously, since he married one.
They were both against Trump for President, although Joe was more likely to admit that Trump had more of a chance than many thought.
LuvNewcastle
(16,856 posts)That's exactly what they do; I just never quite thought of it that way. We're living in a Frankenstein world, only in our world the villagers never rose up against the doctor. In our world, Dr. Frankenstein builds bigger and scarier monsters every 4-8 years and we villagers have to live in fear of what the current monster will do next. When will the villagers finally get enough?
joe and mika are one of the prime reasons the orange shit-stain is in the White House. When their ratings were tanking and their radio show was taken off the air they let trump come on or call in anytime he liked. They gave him air time when he was floundering early and kept him viable enough to stay in the race.
And they are pubicans. Like the rest you mentioned. And you can never trust a pubican.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)The hypocrisy runs deep in the party and they act like yesterday never happened, that we have no video from those bygone days.
Republicans are political chameleons and though it is common knowledge to those who are paying attention, the media is right to point it out every single time. Maybe some less engaged voters will get a clue and maybe the mainstream media will quick giving republicans a pass.