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They voted with Trump on the "ban" and many are expecting a similar result with this issue, also.
But, there is a difference.
We will know after their vote if they are simply a partisan tool of the Republicans or if they still take the Constitution seriously?
It is a very basic constitutional issue about separation of powers. Does the Congress have the power of the purse, as stated in the Constitution, or can the President assume that power thru the National Emergency Act of 1976?
All the Justices have stated that they will follow the law as written in our Constitution.
Soon, we will know. Either way, it will show just how serious the threat is to our Constitution.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)It sounds to me like it will be a long process in the courts. Like a couple of years maybe.
brush
(53,815 posts)to be one of stomping on the Constitution by going along with this power grab by the executive branch.
dalton99a
(81,565 posts)when Democrats regain control of the White House and Senate.
spin
(17,493 posts)also expanding the court. Eventually after a few decades the Supreme Court will have 101 Justices. It will be necessary to build a brand new enormous building to house the expanded Supreme Court.
dalton99a
(81,565 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)He will be the one who finally stops Trump, or doesn't.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)ooky
(8,926 posts)and our ability to take back the Senate and White House in 2020, so she can finally enjoy a well deserved retirement.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)and the horrid possibility of rump for 4 more years...really gets me stressed.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)kwolf68
(7,365 posts)This latest move toward fascist authoritarianism is rebuffed, remember how close it actually got to one man ruling by decree without any congressional oversight.
This is a man acting like this, installing extreme right wing judges into positions YET LOST the popular vote in the election.
It's just not logical to rule like this. You lose the vote you try to moderate your position to appeal to the majority of people who voted against you.
I remember when Obama was elected in 2008, with sweeping results, the meme from the Republicants was "he had no mandate". Then Dolt 45 gets in on a electoral college technicality and governs like he won 90% of the vote.
These people are brazen and fearless in their attempts to reshape America as they see fit, no matter what. Trump is simply too incompetent to really achieve their dreams, but the model is now created. The next guy, with similar views as Trump, may be much brighter and we may be fucked
onenote
(42,733 posts)As a general rule, the federal courts endeavor to resolve cases on non-constitutional grounds when possible. In this instance, the courts will confront a couple of statutory interpretation questions before they have to reach issues of the constitutionality of the National Emergencies Act, either as a facial matter or as applied.
In particular, the courts could find that while the term "emergency" isn't defined, it cannot mean anything the president says is an emergency. And the court could find that the statutory provision cited in the National Emergency declaration does not permit the redirecting of DoD funding for the purpose of building a border wall.
The Court is going to be reluctant to find that the NEA is facially unconstitutional which would require them to determine that Congress lacks the Constitutional authority to pass legislation that authorizes the president to declare emergencies and take actions based on other statutes passed by Congress.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)...the claim simply to avoid the separation of powers issue.
Think: if Trump had ordered the Army to the border w/o any effort to take $ from the DOD, he'd be o.k.
But, oh no, he and that idiot Mulvaney (plus a cadre of stupid WH lawyers) believe thy are in the right. I also believe that those same lawyers fully know the NE will be shot down but hey, why challenge the orange idiot? Let the SC do the heavy lifting.