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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo....It Appears Jussie Smollett --- Likely Lied....
The brothers, who were arrested Wednesday, were released without charges Friday after Chicago police cited the discovery of "new evidence." The sources told CNN that the two men are now cooperating fully with law enforcement.
Smollett told authorities he was attacked early January 29 by two men who were "yelling out racial and homophobic slurs." He said one attacker put a rope around his neck and poured an unknown chemical substance on him.
The sources told CNN that there are records that show the two brothers purchased the rope found around Smollett's neck at an Ace Hardware store in Chicago.
Smollett gave his first detailed account of what he says was a hate crime against him, and the aftermath, in an interview with "Good Morning America" that aired Thursday. During the interview he expressed frustration at not being believed.
"It feels like if I had said it was a Muslim or a Mexican or someone black I feel like the doubters would have supported me a lot much more," Smollett said. "And that says a lot about the place where we are as a country right now.
CNN's attempts to reach both Smollett's representative and attorney Saturday were unsuccessful."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html
WOW....In these days and times. WOW!
dhol82
(9,353 posts)FreeState
(10,584 posts)To the police. It could have been used to communicate between the three. My guess is they will get a search warrant for it now.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Before the attack.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And Jussie Smollett needs to be charged with the crime of making a false police report and fired from Empire, immediately.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)If true, and it looks true, Jussie Smollett should be charged to the fullest extent of the law.
When people lie about being victims of a crime, that makes it harder for actual victims to come forward.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)... I'd ordinarily take anything they say regarding an African American crime victim with a grain of salt. However, this is starting to look fishy
I'm still inclined to give Smollett the benefit of the doubt. However, it's becoming increasingly difficult to do that with each passing day.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)When the two paid attackers were friends of the "alleged victim".
jalan48
(13,894 posts)Response to jalan48 (Reply #8)
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Lunabell
(6,114 posts)Damn, there's enough homophobic violence without him doing this.
madville
(7,412 posts)That means there aren't two maniacs running around performing hate crimes in Chicago.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)that area of Chicago
A waste of community police and detective time The whole thing was very bad for the city, many communities here in Chicago frightened at first
He was a bad director and needs to pack up and leave town I believe he no longer has a job here anymore anyway
he went so far like that interview on abc and saying he fought off 2 attackers
madville
(7,412 posts)He should have to do some prison time (Class 4 felony sentence in IL is 1-3 years max) and pay the city back for all the manpower and overtime it has cost them at least.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)such a high profile case . Plus they needed to know if communities were at risk so I do not blame them for the amount of man power used following through on his attack until they could finally solve it, but yes loss of time and also money , the cost
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)Now the right wing will live off of this for the next two years. Any racial attack will now be doubted because of this guy.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Jussie has to be beyond Cancelled after some mess like this.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)But you are correct, it will not be just today, they will feed off it for a long time . His bonehead plan has handed them a platter
DIfferent layers of outrage at this moron
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)But any time something like this happens, it distorts truth and lies, and ultimately helps further the "snowing" of the masses by those who decry "fake news." I know this isn't fake news like trump talks about, but all i'm saying is it doesn't help those of us who want the truth told, and believed, in public. This guy, if this is true, deserves prosecuted the maximum allowed by law.
Catherine Vincent
(34,491 posts)Why would this idiot do such a thing?
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)He was going to be Cancelled off of Empire. So, for a continued paycheck. If the rumor is true, that is why he staged this S**t...
Catherine Vincent
(34,491 posts)He'll never get hired now.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... so that motivation is out the window
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Fox has to save what's left of the show of "Empire" which after this, should be equally cancelled along with Jussie.
Look, as Members of the African-American Community, we are beyond pissed off at this s**t as this has set our community back as we are the community constantly under ATTACK in the Era of Racist A** Trump. We have a right to be PISSED...
oldsoftie
(12,622 posts)Get rid of the character in the most embarrassing way & move on. The show has been getting decent ratings as far as I know.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)What matters is his state of mind, which may have not been correct.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... most of the cleaning from quote-unquote sources inside the CPD
madville
(7,412 posts)But some of that could be by design. There is no way detectives were not exploring or considering the possibility this a hoax, their job is to investigate all possibilities and leads. Sounds like his goose is cooked though from their official statement today "new evidence has lead the investigation in a different direction" and them saying they have been in contact with his lawyers to arrange him to come back in. I bet he gets charged when he comes back in.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not a good sign.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)but just used for publicity for his upcoming concert/album in some way. Remember it was his roommate that called police against his wishes initially. Perhaps then he felt he had no choice but to stick to the story. But why do it this way in the first place? Still lots of unanswered questions out there.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I was curious about whether he called police or whether they came to him.
Yeah, he was cornered by that.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)The right wing is going to have a field day with this and it's going to make future REAL victims look less believable. What an idiot.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Nothing goes unnoticed anymore
Things like this are quite sad because they not only damage the people perpetrating them, but they also hurt people who truly do have awful things happen, and they are not believed.:
madville
(7,412 posts)Idiots to think the cops wouldn't track them down with the footprint we leave in all this technology these days otherwise.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)and promised $500 upon their return to Chicago.
orleans
(34,079 posts)CHICAGO -- Chicago police are "eager" to again speak again with "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett about his alleged attack after two brothers were arrested in connection with the attack agreed to cooperate with police, sources said Saturday evening.
"We can confirm that the information received from the individuals questioned by police earlier in the Empire case has in fact shifted the trajectory of the investigation. We've reached out to the Empire cast member's attorney to request a follow-up interview," said Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi.
Guglielmi said they have reached out to Smollett's attorneys Friday night. "We made our intentions clear," he said.
Apollyonus
(812 posts)a kennedy
(29,719 posts)Why would he do this???
cwydro
(51,308 posts)A really bad case of overacting.
He says hes an actor, but hes not very good at it.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Michael Monico, a former federal prosecutor in Illinois Northern District
Must be an expert in lying so pissed so many levels
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Michael Cohen could not come testify before Congress because he was supposedly "so sick" -- then he was spotted going out to dinner the next day....
spooky3
(34,484 posts)Azathoth
(4,611 posts)I mean, what kind of thugs go wandering around Chicago at night with a *noose* and just happen to stumble on a famous black actor? Stranger things have happened of course, but the whole thing sounded a little contrived.
Between this and the Covington Catholic fiasco, the MAGA crowd are really scoring propaganda victories for their "fake news" campaign. I hope Dems and the news media wise up and stop running with these kinds of stories until the facts and circumstances have been independently verified.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)But there's actual video footage of the Covington brats acting like a bunch of sexist and racist shitheads. I don't care if some sham investigation "cleared" them. I'll trust my own eyes.
madville
(7,412 posts)Presentation of the case was originally scheduled for Tuesday but has been pushed back, prosecutors will be attempting to indict Smollett for the false police report which is a felony in IL, carries a 1-3 year sentence in state prison. Police have the two brothers in protective custody and they will be voluntarily testifying before the grand jury.
Smollett's spokesperson stated that he will not be talking to the police today. (I seriously doubt he talks to them again, basically giving them more evidence at this point)
madville
(7,412 posts)But if Smollett was also involved in the threatening letters that arrived through the USPS mail at the Empire set the week before the "attack", he could potentially be looking at some Federal criminal charges as well as the state charges that reportedly will be sent to a grand jury this week.