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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:20 PM Feb 2019

So....It Appears Jussie Smollett --- Likely Lied....

"Chicago (CNN)- Two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation told CNN that Chicago Police believe Jussie Smollett paid two men to orchestrate the assault.

The brothers, who were arrested Wednesday, were released without charges Friday after Chicago police cited the discovery of "new evidence." The sources told CNN that the two men are now cooperating fully with law enforcement.

Smollett told authorities he was attacked early January 29 by two men who were "yelling out racial and homophobic slurs." He said one attacker put a rope around his neck and poured an unknown chemical substance on him.

The sources told CNN that there are records that show the two brothers purchased the rope found around Smollett's neck at an Ace Hardware store in Chicago.

Smollett gave his first detailed account of what he says was a hate crime against him, and the aftermath, in an interview with "Good Morning America" that aired Thursday. During the interview he expressed frustration at not being believed.

"It feels like if I had said it was a Muslim or a Mexican or someone black I feel like the doubters would have supported me a lot much more," Smollett said. "And that says a lot about the place where we are as a country right now.

CNN's attempts to reach both Smollett's representative and attorney Saturday were unsuccessful."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/16/entertainment/jussie-smollett-attack/index.html


WOW....In these days and times. WOW!
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So....It Appears Jussie Smollett --- Likely Lied.... (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 OP
Weird. dhol82 Feb 2019 #1
Which could explain his reluctance to give his phone FreeState Feb 2019 #2
Suspect gave police his phone and there was a call between Jussie and one of the guys helpisontheway Feb 2019 #3
Yep.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #4
Well, that's awful. musicblind Feb 2019 #5
Given Chicago PD's long history of racism... jcmaine72 Feb 2019 #6
Especially.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #7
Why would he do this? nt jalan48 Feb 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author lunasun Feb 2019 #23
OMG, I hope it isn't true. Lunabell Feb 2019 #9
I think it's more of a relief it didn't happen madville Feb 2019 #10
two maniacs running around performing hate crimes in Chicago.Yelling about MAGA in -9 weather in lunasun Feb 2019 #27
If it was a hoax madville Feb 2019 #29
if they didnt frind out who attacked him many would complain the police were not doing enough being lunasun Feb 2019 #37
How the fk can anyone be this stupid? Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #11
Yep... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #14
They are having a feast today.He sucks and I am pissed off he used my city as his drama backdrop lunasun Feb 2019 #31
Great that it didn't happen MontanaFarmer Feb 2019 #12
If this is true... Catherine Vincent Feb 2019 #13
Rumor has it... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #15
Stupid Stupid Catherine Vincent Feb 2019 #17
Fox has confirmed there was no plans to cancel Smollett uponit7771 Feb 2019 #19
That was BEFORE this information was revealed today.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #20
So put everyone on the show out of work because of THIS asshole? No way. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #46
Not if he believed that he was about to be written out of the show. WillowTree Feb 2019 #24
That doesn't mean he may have believed otherwise jberryhill Feb 2019 #34
If this is true then Smollett is an idiot, what a clueless plan, especially using his friends. nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #16
Has there been any official word question mark there has been a lot of false reporting about this is uponit7771 Feb 2019 #18
Mostly the BS reporting is the misinformation the CPD public spokesman puts out madville Feb 2019 #26
He has hired a lawyer - Michael Cohen's lawyer, no less. cwydro Feb 2019 #43
Where are these leaky sources when it comes to cop brutality cases? Dang! WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2019 #21
A possible theory is that it may not have been meant to be reported to the police madville Feb 2019 #22
Ah, okay jberryhill Feb 2019 #35
Really stupid move. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #25
Amazing how people these days forget about all the cctv cameras SoCalDem Feb 2019 #28
Or that they had their real phones and used their ride share apps to get there madville Feb 2019 #30
100% -they also hurt people who truly do have awful things happen, and they are not believed.: lunasun Feb 2019 #32
CBS Chicago is saying that the brothers were paid $3500 madville Feb 2019 #33
this orleans Feb 2019 #36
This hurts the cause .... nt Apollyonus Feb 2019 #38
*crying*. * pissed off*. *mad as hell* a kennedy Feb 2019 #39
I watched that GMA interview. cwydro Feb 2019 #44
He has hired some big time lawyer that Michael Cohen recently hired lunasun Feb 2019 #40
The Same Attorney That Said... LovingA2andMI Feb 2019 #42
Shouldn't we wait until all the facts are in before judging? Nt spooky3 Feb 2019 #41
This thing always sounded a little fishy Azathoth Feb 2019 #45
MAGA idiots can claim what they want. BlueStater Feb 2019 #47
Latest News: Case heading to grand jury this week madville Feb 2019 #48
I haven't seen it mentioned yet madville Feb 2019 #49

FreeState

(10,584 posts)
2. Which could explain his reluctance to give his phone
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:27 PM
Feb 2019

To the police. It could have been used to communicate between the three. My guess is they will get a search warrant for it now.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
3. Suspect gave police his phone and there was a call between Jussie and one of the guys
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:30 PM
Feb 2019

Before the attack.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
4. Yep....
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:30 PM
Feb 2019

And Jussie Smollett needs to be charged with the crime of making a false police report and fired from Empire, immediately.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
5. Well, that's awful.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:36 PM
Feb 2019

If true, and it looks true, Jussie Smollett should be charged to the fullest extent of the law.

When people lie about being victims of a crime, that makes it harder for actual victims to come forward.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
6. Given Chicago PD's long history of racism...
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:38 PM
Feb 2019

... I'd ordinarily take anything they say regarding an African American crime victim with a grain of salt. However, this is starting to look fishy

I'm still inclined to give Smollett the benefit of the doubt. However, it's becoming increasingly difficult to do that with each passing day.

Response to jalan48 (Reply #8)

madville

(7,412 posts)
10. I think it's more of a relief it didn't happen
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 09:58 PM
Feb 2019

That means there aren't two maniacs running around performing hate crimes in Chicago.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. two maniacs running around performing hate crimes in Chicago.Yelling about MAGA in -9 weather in
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:17 PM
Feb 2019

that area of Chicago
A waste of community police and detective time The whole thing was very bad for the city, many communities here in Chicago frightened at first
He was a bad director and needs to pack up and leave town I believe he no longer has a job here anymore anyway
he went so far like that interview on abc and saying he fought off 2 attackers

madville

(7,412 posts)
29. If it was a hoax
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:22 PM
Feb 2019

He should have to do some prison time (Class 4 felony sentence in IL is 1-3 years max) and pay the city back for all the manpower and overtime it has cost them at least.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
37. if they didnt frind out who attacked him many would complain the police were not doing enough being
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:44 PM
Feb 2019

such a high profile case . Plus they needed to know if communities were at risk so I do not blame them for the amount of man power used following through on his attack until they could finally solve it, but yes loss of time and also money , the cost

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
11. How the fk can anyone be this stupid?
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 10:00 PM
Feb 2019

Now the right wing will live off of this for the next two years. Any racial attack will now be doubted because of this guy.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
31. They are having a feast today.He sucks and I am pissed off he used my city as his drama backdrop
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:26 PM
Feb 2019

But you are correct, it will not be just today, they will feed off it for a long time . His bonehead plan has handed them a platter
DIfferent layers of outrage at this moron

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
12. Great that it didn't happen
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 10:03 PM
Feb 2019

But any time something like this happens, it distorts truth and lies, and ultimately helps further the "snowing" of the masses by those who decry "fake news." I know this isn't fake news like trump talks about, but all i'm saying is it doesn't help those of us who want the truth told, and believed, in public. This guy, if this is true, deserves prosecuted the maximum allowed by law.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
15. Rumor has it...
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 10:05 PM
Feb 2019

He was going to be Cancelled off of Empire. So, for a continued paycheck. If the rumor is true, that is why he staged this S**t...

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
20. That was BEFORE this information was revealed today....
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 10:32 PM
Feb 2019

Fox has to save what's left of the show of "Empire" which after this, should be equally cancelled along with Jussie.

Look, as Members of the African-American Community, we are beyond pissed off at this s**t as this has set our community back as we are the community constantly under ATTACK in the Era of Racist A** Trump. We have a right to be PISSED...

oldsoftie

(12,622 posts)
46. So put everyone on the show out of work because of THIS asshole? No way.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 08:10 AM
Feb 2019

Get rid of the character in the most embarrassing way & move on. The show has been getting decent ratings as far as I know.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. That doesn't mean he may have believed otherwise
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:34 PM
Feb 2019

What matters is his state of mind, which may have not been correct.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
18. Has there been any official word question mark there has been a lot of false reporting about this is
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 10:18 PM
Feb 2019

... most of the cleaning from quote-unquote sources inside the CPD

madville

(7,412 posts)
26. Mostly the BS reporting is the misinformation the CPD public spokesman puts out
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:13 PM
Feb 2019

But some of that could be by design. There is no way detectives were not exploring or considering the possibility this a hoax, their job is to investigate all possibilities and leads. Sounds like his goose is cooked though from their official statement today "new evidence has lead the investigation in a different direction" and them saying they have been in contact with his lawyers to arrange him to come back in. I bet he gets charged when he comes back in.

madville

(7,412 posts)
22. A possible theory is that it may not have been meant to be reported to the police
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 10:39 PM
Feb 2019

but just used for publicity for his upcoming concert/album in some way. Remember it was his roommate that called police against his wishes initially. Perhaps then he felt he had no choice but to stick to the story. But why do it this way in the first place? Still lots of unanswered questions out there.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
35. Ah, okay
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:36 PM
Feb 2019

I was curious about whether he called police or whether they came to him.

Yeah, he was cornered by that.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
25. Really stupid move.
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:13 PM
Feb 2019

The right wing is going to have a field day with this and it's going to make future REAL victims look less believable. What an idiot.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
28. Amazing how people these days forget about all the cctv cameras
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:19 PM
Feb 2019

Nothing goes unnoticed anymore
Things like this are quite sad because they not only damage the people perpetrating them, but they also hurt people who truly do have awful things happen, and they are not believed.:

madville

(7,412 posts)
30. Or that they had their real phones and used their ride share apps to get there
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:24 PM
Feb 2019

Idiots to think the cops wouldn't track them down with the footprint we leave in all this technology these days otherwise.

orleans

(34,079 posts)
36. this
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:37 PM
Feb 2019
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-eager-to-urgently-speak-to-jussie-smollett-after-2-persons-of-interest-released-from-custody/5141900/

CHICAGO -- Chicago police are "eager" to again speak again with "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett about his alleged attack after two brothers were arrested in connection with the attack agreed to cooperate with police, sources said Saturday evening.

"We can confirm that the information received from the individuals questioned by police earlier in the Empire case has in fact shifted the trajectory of the investigation. We've reached out to the Empire cast member's attorney to request a follow-up interview," said Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi.

Guglielmi said they have reached out to Smollett's attorneys Friday night. "We made our intentions clear," he said.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
44. I watched that GMA interview.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 04:03 AM
Feb 2019

A really bad case of overacting.

He says he’s an actor, but he’s not very good at it.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
40. He has hired some big time lawyer that Michael Cohen recently hired
Sat Feb 16, 2019, 11:57 PM
Feb 2019

Michael Monico, a former federal prosecutor in Illinois’ Northern District
Must be an expert in lying so pissed so many levels

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
42. The Same Attorney That Said...
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 01:22 AM
Feb 2019

Michael Cohen could not come testify before Congress because he was supposedly "so sick" -- then he was spotted going out to dinner the next day....

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
45. This thing always sounded a little fishy
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 04:13 AM
Feb 2019

I mean, what kind of thugs go wandering around Chicago at night with a *noose* and just happen to stumble on a famous black actor? Stranger things have happened of course, but the whole thing sounded a little contrived.

Between this and the Covington Catholic fiasco, the MAGA crowd are really scoring propaganda victories for their "fake news" campaign. I hope Dems and the news media wise up and stop running with these kinds of stories until the facts and circumstances have been independently verified.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
47. MAGA idiots can claim what they want.
Sun Feb 17, 2019, 10:11 AM
Feb 2019

But there's actual video footage of the Covington brats acting like a bunch of sexist and racist shitheads. I don't care if some sham investigation "cleared" them. I'll trust my own eyes.

madville

(7,412 posts)
48. Latest News: Case heading to grand jury this week
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 04:21 PM
Feb 2019

Presentation of the case was originally scheduled for Tuesday but has been pushed back, prosecutors will be attempting to indict Smollett for the false police report which is a felony in IL, carries a 1-3 year sentence in state prison. Police have the two brothers in protective custody and they will be voluntarily testifying before the grand jury.

Smollett's spokesperson stated that he will not be talking to the police today. (I seriously doubt he talks to them again, basically giving them more evidence at this point)

madville

(7,412 posts)
49. I haven't seen it mentioned yet
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 05:00 PM
Feb 2019

But if Smollett was also involved in the threatening letters that arrived through the USPS mail at the Empire set the week before the "attack", he could potentially be looking at some Federal criminal charges as well as the state charges that reportedly will be sent to a grand jury this week.

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