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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew Seth Abramson thread: Trump's multinational pre-election collusion
Starting with this tweet - text of all the tweets in the thread follows, with some editing to replace the flag emojis Abramson used with the actual country names, since the flags aren't showing up here at DU:
Link to tweet
(SPOILER) Trump's multinational pre-election collusion (chief co-conspirators: Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, United Arab Emirates) has its origin in two international events, which together offer a key to understanding the Trump-Russia scandal:
Ukraine: 2014: Russian annexation of Crimea
Iran: 2015: Iranian nuclear deal
Ukraine: 2014: Russian annexation of Crimea
Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine led Obama and a global alliance to level sanctions on Russia. Russia knew Clinton would maintain Obama's sanctions and Trump wouldn't. Sunni powers in the Gulf saw sanctions gave them an "in" with Russia.
Iran: 2015: Iranian nuclear deal
Obama and a global alliance made a nuclear deal with Iran with the aim of bringing peace to the Middle East. Some Arab nations and Israel opposed the deal on military and geopolitical grounds and felt Trump, not Clinton, would abandon Obama's deal.
US: 2012: Trump decides to run for president
Mueller is now focused on when Trump decided to run for president. Why? Because it's clear Trump's attacks on Obama were part of an effort to signal publicly what Trump told many foreign powers privatelyhe would end Obama's policies.
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, United Arab Emirates: 2015 and 2016: Multiple nations collude with Trump
Nations upon whom Trump has been financially dependentwith others assistingillegally aid Trump pre-election in an effort to create an anti-Iranian Middle East security alliance that Russia will be willing to support.
US: 2017 and 2018: Mueller indicts Russians and Trump campaign colluders
Mueller has used indictments to get six key Trump colluders to talk: Flynn; Manafort; Gates; Cohen; Papadopoulos; Stone. Some of these colluders have given Mueller evidence for future collusion indictments.
💻: 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019: Citizens compile public evidence
Feeds like this one have compiled the evidence available in major-media reports from around the worldand going back yearsto bring to Americans the content of the Mueller report in case the report never gets released.
📺: 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019: News follows daily outrages only
Cable news has been so focused on Trump's daily outragespartly for ratings, partly because it's structurally ill-equipped to report complex storiesleaving Americans with little sense of the big picture on collusion.
Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, Bahrain, Hungary: 2015, 2016, 2017: Other nations offer Trumps covert aid
The Trump-Russia case is made too complex for easy reporting due to its runtime (decades) and international scope, including major roles for agents from Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, Bahrain, Hungary, and other nations.
US: 2019: Many Americans decide any news story too complex to easily summarize is a "conspiracy theory"
Trump's greatest aid in escaping responsibility for his illegal pre-election collusion, after media's inability to readily cover a story of this scope, is Americans' cynicism.
Some Key Trump-Russia Foreign Agents
Russia: Putin, Kilimnik, Deripaska, Rybolovlev, Agalarov, Papadopoulos*
Ukraine: Manafort*
Israel: Netanyahu, Zamel, Birnbaum*
Saudi Arabia: MbS, al-Assiri, Nader*
United Arab Emirates: MbZ, Dahlan, Nader*
Turkey: Kian, Alptekin, Flynn*
Hungary: Orban
Egypt: el-Sisi
*Legally (not nationality).
Some Key American Trump-Russia Co-Conspirators/Enablers US: Bannon, Barrack, Clovis, Cohen, Conway, Corsi, Credico, Dearborn, Erickson (boyfriend of Butina), Gordon, Kushner, Mashburn, Mercer, Page, Prince, Sater, Schmitz, Sessions, Trump (Don), Trump (Eric), Trump (Ivanka).
Ukraine: 2014: Russian annexation of Crimea
Iran: 2015: Iranian nuclear deal
Ukraine: 2014: Russian annexation of Crimea
Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine led Obama and a global alliance to level sanctions on Russia. Russia knew Clinton would maintain Obama's sanctions and Trump wouldn't. Sunni powers in the Gulf saw sanctions gave them an "in" with Russia.
Iran: 2015: Iranian nuclear deal
Obama and a global alliance made a nuclear deal with Iran with the aim of bringing peace to the Middle East. Some Arab nations and Israel opposed the deal on military and geopolitical grounds and felt Trump, not Clinton, would abandon Obama's deal.
US: 2012: Trump decides to run for president
Mueller is now focused on when Trump decided to run for president. Why? Because it's clear Trump's attacks on Obama were part of an effort to signal publicly what Trump told many foreign powers privatelyhe would end Obama's policies.
Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, United Arab Emirates: 2015 and 2016: Multiple nations collude with Trump
Nations upon whom Trump has been financially dependentwith others assistingillegally aid Trump pre-election in an effort to create an anti-Iranian Middle East security alliance that Russia will be willing to support.
US: 2017 and 2018: Mueller indicts Russians and Trump campaign colluders
Mueller has used indictments to get six key Trump colluders to talk: Flynn; Manafort; Gates; Cohen; Papadopoulos; Stone. Some of these colluders have given Mueller evidence for future collusion indictments.
💻: 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019: Citizens compile public evidence
Feeds like this one have compiled the evidence available in major-media reports from around the worldand going back yearsto bring to Americans the content of the Mueller report in case the report never gets released.
📺: 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019: News follows daily outrages only
Cable news has been so focused on Trump's daily outragespartly for ratings, partly because it's structurally ill-equipped to report complex storiesleaving Americans with little sense of the big picture on collusion.
Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, Bahrain, Hungary: 2015, 2016, 2017: Other nations offer Trumps covert aid
The Trump-Russia case is made too complex for easy reporting due to its runtime (decades) and international scope, including major roles for agents from Qatar, Turkey, Egypt, Bahrain, Hungary, and other nations.
US: 2019: Many Americans decide any news story too complex to easily summarize is a "conspiracy theory"
Trump's greatest aid in escaping responsibility for his illegal pre-election collusion, after media's inability to readily cover a story of this scope, is Americans' cynicism.
Some Key Trump-Russia Foreign Agents
Russia: Putin, Kilimnik, Deripaska, Rybolovlev, Agalarov, Papadopoulos*
Ukraine: Manafort*
Israel: Netanyahu, Zamel, Birnbaum*
Saudi Arabia: MbS, al-Assiri, Nader*
United Arab Emirates: MbZ, Dahlan, Nader*
Turkey: Kian, Alptekin, Flynn*
Hungary: Orban
Egypt: el-Sisi
*Legally (not nationality).
Some Key American Trump-Russia Co-Conspirators/Enablers US: Bannon, Barrack, Clovis, Cohen, Conway, Corsi, Credico, Dearborn, Erickson (boyfriend of Butina), Gordon, Kushner, Mashburn, Mercer, Page, Prince, Sater, Schmitz, Sessions, Trump (Don), Trump (Eric), Trump (Ivanka).
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New Seth Abramson thread: Trump's multinational pre-election collusion (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Feb 2019
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Hermit-The-Prog
(33,345 posts)1. thanks for putting this together!
Here's the threadreaderapp link:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1097163024446734336.html
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)2. And the real truth full line is,
American Media ill equip to handle these complex stories in order to inform the American People as to what the big complex picture truly looks like and who the real players in this are and their motives.