HUGE FIERY WRECK AT DAYTONA 500 WITH 10 LAPS TO GO.

[democratisphere]

What an unbelievable mess taking out many of the top drivers.

Updated: Link of crash from 2 different angles.

https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/video-insane-wreck-at-the-daytona-500-today

Now another crash on the restart taking out most of the rest of the field. WTF.

[dalton99a]

1. 19 cars

Link to tweet

[sakabatou]

3. O.O

[AJT]

26. Is it legal to bump someone on purpose?

[2naSalit]

35. Looks like the original vehicle involved

nicked the wall, I couldn't tell if the car behind bumped them before they made contact with the wall. I hope everyone is okay. What a mess.

[mitch96]

45. I heard one time "rubbin is racing".. so I guess yes.. nt

[MontanaFarmer]

4. David Ragan would agree

That was wild, seeing a car have another car sitting on it while wrecking along.

[machoneman]

5. No injuries

[Ms. Toad]

6. So there were 2 crashes?

When I went looking for reports, there appears to have been a crash about 5:30 that involved 4 cars.

[democratisphere]

7. Race is stopped and can be viewed on the local Fox Channel NOW.

Looks like 19 cars were involved.

[Ms. Toad]

9. I've seen multiple views of the 18-19 car crash

but it appears there was a crash about an hour ago involving 4 cars?

(I don't have a real TV - the conversion from analog to digital years ago wiped out our access to over-the-air stations, and we're not willing to pay for a cable package. Pretty much all we get are multiple versions of all-jesus-all-the time, and (fortunately) the local PBS station.)

[Srkdqltr]

24. to the last part of your post....

Are you bragging or complaining??

[Ms. Toad]

39. Mostly explaining -

I complained a lot at the time of the conversion. I was perfectly happy with fuzzy analog, and we got all the main channels. Digital is either there - or not. Converting from analog to digital wasn't supposed to cut off people - but the reality is that if you are too far from a tower, TV is no longer free. And we refuse to add another monthly charge in order to get access to the free broadcasts.

We had Netflix before the change - we watch it more now. I miss news, and easy access to breaking information. Still not happy - but mostly just explaining because the standard refrain around here is - it's on CNN/MSNBC/etc., with the expectation that everone has easy access to such things.

[Leghorn21]

8. I'm sort of half-watching, Ms. T, but every time I look up there's another wreck - there have

been 10-11 caution flags -

I was just watching to cheer on Bubba Wallace Jr., but he was in a dustup and as far as I can tell, is out of the race, wannhh

[Ms. Toad]

11. I'm not really familiar with the race or the frequency of crashes -

I just went searching for info on the huge fiery crash and found the earlier one that apparently put a favorite 2 laps behind.

So - essentially you're telling me a 4-car crash happens multiple times during this race?

[Leghorn21]

12. Oh no,I know nothing, Ms. T, but there seems to be wayyyymany more crashes than usual -

(and I’m happy to see my guy Bubba is still in the running!)

But to my little bit of knowledge, there are never this many wrecks involving so many cars like...ever

[democratisphere]

13. Go to updated link in the OP.

[More_Cowbell]

10. It's a "product of speedway racing"

I've heard 4 or 5 drivers say that right now. That must be drilled in as a talking point.

[Miigwech]

14. My condolances to anyone hurt

Car racing and all extreme sports are dumb ... how do they get insurance? I bet the rest of us are paying a percentage of their risk taking. How about they take up extreme quilting?

http://www.extremequilters.com/gallery.html

[unblock]

22. i rather doubt they get insurance.

[Miigwech]

27. Think again ...

Answer? Professional race car drivers pay the same as any other vocation assuming other rating variables remain the same. Those “other variables” are likely favorable to the professional race car operator.

https://www.quora.com/Are-professional-race-car-drivers-car-insurance-premiums-higher-or-lower-than-the-average-Americans

[unblock]

37. Well yes, they have normal insurance for their normal driving

What I mean is that normal insurance doesn't cover that kind of speed racing

[Srkdqltr]

25. Love the extreme quilting.

[Lefta Dissenter]

29. My sister

broke her hand while quilting... Or was that while she was weaving?

DANGER, DANGER!

[Dennis Donovan]

15. This is nothing BUT wrecks!

Kick and Wreckommend...

[democratisphere]

16. Really like the "Wreckommend"

Clever and very funny.

[Goodheart]

17. Such a "sport"

[mitch96]

46. When I was new to auto racing I asked what NASCAR stood for...

One wise guy said "Non Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks".... cracked me up!!
I kinda sorta look at the governing body like the NFL...
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[PufPuf23]

18. What a wasteful stupid "sport"

Fortunately no one was killed.

[democratisphere]

19. Never seen anything like it in all of my race watching days.

Thankfully the car construction is very safe.

[PufPuf23]

21. Must admit have never been a fan of auto racing.

Went to a stock car race once with parents back in late 50s as a child. Never got the attraction.

[teach1st]

23. NASCAR is slower than other auto races to green up

But it has been paying attention to going green lately. Is it enough?

One could (and many do) argue that auto racing has been instrumental in automotive advance in safety (especially safety), gas mileage, tire efficiency, and overall auto longevity. If that's the case, auto racing may not be as wasteful as some think.

I was raised in a racing family. As a child, I met many of the old racing dudes, NASCAR included, and I've watched some amazing racing, so I'm biased. I like to watch auto racing.

I think that "wasteful" is up for debate and "stupid" is a matter of taste.

[PufPuf23]

49. Agree with you about taste and debate and apologize for the brief harsh response.

I get what you are saying. Any sport is people and am sure auto racing has had some good folks.

Maybe some high performance electric cars?

[DontBooVote]

38. What "stupid" sport do you watch?

[PufPuf23]

48. SF Giant and Golden State Warrior fan regards consumer sports.

Hard core even.

Don't watch other sports nor teams on TV, exclusively Giants and Warriors. Seldom even watch movies about sports.

Like outdoor participatory stuff but too old and failing physical health to enjoy what did when younger, but that is more doing it and enjoying others experience.

Was raised in hunting and fishing family but haven't hunted since 1969 not fished since 1986 (one set of grandparents had a hunting and fishing lodge for nearly 40 years, also where first lived). Haven't shot a firearm since 1985 and that was for work sampling foliage and cones of trees for various insects and diseases. Don't like to be around firearms (but own firearms handed down or gifted by family).

Once liked going to thoroughbred racing with my Dad, haven't done that since 1994 when we spent a week at Santa Anita. The family had horses in general for riding and my Dad owned several good thoroughbred broodmares and sold yearlings and had several race at Golden Gate Fields and what was Bay Meadow.

I came off a bit rude and apologize.

[lpbk2713]

20. A Friday afternoon on I-4 through Orlando.

I'm glad there were no serious injuries.

[RandySF]

28. Kind of reminds me of the 2016 Republican primary.

[democratisphere]

30. Yep. Fiery train wreck.

[soryang]

31. Heard a very loud and low aircraft flying near the speedway

My better half was outside and told me it was a C-5 or C-17. I wondered if it brought the Army luxury RVs I've seen at major concerts and sporting events.

I've never gone to the races there, cost too much. Even my dentist said that for the first time in fifteen years he's not going because of the ticket prices. He usually brings his sons. He said I'm not paying a thousand bucks for three tickets and then paying 12 dollars for a beer. He said, "Who do they think can afford this?"

One of my truck driver friends who is into fast cars, told me she won't go either. They get large tax subsidies from the local government but they charge an arm and leg. The theory is they bring money into the area, but almost all the hospitality services in the area, are chains, and the money doesn't stay in the area. Years ago, I read an article that the local hotels there charged 500 a night.

[democratisphere]

32. Many racing fans had to give up the sport because of the outrageous

costs. As a result the attendance at most tracks is down significantly.

[soryang]

34. Right, I think tickets were still available

...just a day or two before the race.

[stopbush]

33. Aren't wrecks what people want to see in car racing?

Sort of like touchdowns in football.

[DontBooVote]

42. For me, wrecks are a bonus feature. However, racing on the edge is also fun to watch. When

you've watched/attended as long as I have, you get an ESP a split-second before the crash. Because you know how far out on the edge those race cars are and you know the physics and the dynamics and the personalities. And, for me, it's all about the adrenaline rush, attainable even as a spectator.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

36. Do they need driving lessons?

[DontBooVote]

40. Yes. Yes. That's what they need. Driving lessons. Yup! Driving lessons. Yup!

Because they don't know how to drive. I mean, right? That's what you're saying, right?

[ffr]

41. Too many ties to MAGAts, tRump, the KGOP, the NRA, etc...for me to give a rats ass.

I once was a fan, would travel to races, but not for over two decades. I won't even watch or follow it anymore.

Watching it is like watching Fox Noise.

[Ilsa]

43. Pissed that #9 Chase got snagged in the last pile-up.

Hate that Hamlin won. Could have gone all day without seeing that.

And to think people were worried the race would be one long train of cars riding the slipstream, unable to pass the leader.

[House of Roberts]

44. Hamlin had to win because his number is 11.

JD Gibbs died in January after battling a long illness. When he played college football his jersey number was 11. A tribute to JD Gibbs took place during lap 11 of the race also.

[Tikki]

47. one of the NASCAR announcers said it was one of the best races he had seen in a while.

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geez...it actually was a long mess.