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LuckyCharms

(17,426 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 06:59 AM Feb 2019

Trump has a tell when speaking at his rallies.

Check this out next time he has one of his dog and pony shows.

We know that he lies virtually all of the time. But sometimes, he REALLY lies. Sometimes, particularly at his rallies, he lies to the point where he is trying to convince himself, as well as his sheep, that what he is saying is true.

In this situation, he starts in with the "believe me" crap. Only he doesn't just say "believe me". He says it almost angrily, while he makes that stupid white power sign or OK sign, whatever that thing is. He then says "believe me" with the emphasis on the first syllable, while making that sign with his hand and thrusting his hand forward toward the crowd as if he is trying to "push" his horseshit into the heads of his followers. You have probably already noticed this, but I think it is interesting.

Also, when he says the second syllable of "believe", he kind of says it with a hateful grimace, a sick grin.

BUHleeeeve me.

What an asshole.

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Trump has a tell when speaking at his rallies. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Feb 2019 OP
I'm thinking the "tell" for his lies shanny Feb 2019 #1
More to the truth! dhol82 Feb 2019 #9
I remember Tim Kaine picking up on this during the election. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #2
I made a comment on here prior to 2016 debates..... lastlib Feb 2019 #20
We have so much access, to so much information, of all kinds. A unique empedocles Feb 2019 #3
I can't watch his rallies. smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #4
Nearly 10 minutes of "believe me" teach1st Feb 2019 #5
Lies are the Mother's Milk of the republican party Achilleaze Feb 2019 #6
yes Satan is having a good time scarytomcat Feb 2019 #31
He also repeats the main lie he's trying to con them with over and over duforsure Feb 2019 #7
I have watched him and his mannerism. gordianot Feb 2019 #8
He has another "tell" Poppy9159 Feb 2019 #10
And a couple of times he actually says PatSeg Feb 2019 #12
I never believe anyone who uses the phrase "believe me" RAB910 Feb 2019 #11
Or "I swear to God" PatSeg Feb 2019 #13
Yup, honest people who don't lie don't need to qualify that they are telling the truth RAB910 Feb 2019 #16
I've been around a few very prolific liars PatSeg Feb 2019 #18
You know what they say- Power and stress can both be great amplifiers RAB910 Feb 2019 #19
Oh yes PatSeg Feb 2019 #21
He's going after "People of Faith" Roy Rolling Feb 2019 #14
Also he has a habit of dropping his voice and almost whispering he has a soft sing song cadence. flying_wahini Feb 2019 #15
He fancies himself a salesman. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #17
I think that Trump is a con man, not a sales man. yardwork Feb 2019 #28
Trump has more tells than a Swiss archer's family gratuitous Feb 2019 #22
Another of his many big tells is when he pauses for dramatic effect, then says something batshit. BN1914 Feb 2019 #23
"Believe me" is an obvious tell for anyone jcgoldie Feb 2019 #24
Kick Demovictory9 Feb 2019 #25
Callin him an asshole is being too kind. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #26
"Many people are saying..." means nobody is saying that thing he's claiming The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #27
I'd love to play no limit poker with the guy for 2 hours. I'd own his tower. TeamPooka Feb 2019 #29
I attended one of his rallies in my blue state of WA at140 Feb 2019 #30

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
20. I made a comment on here prior to 2016 debates.....
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

..that Hillary should have said, in her opening remarks, "If [tRump] says 'Believe me,' DON'T believe him!"

If he says "No doubt about it," You can bet your ass there is PLENTY of doubt about it!

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. We have so much access, to so much information, of all kinds. A unique
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:19 AM
Feb 2019

time in history - and yet, our time is so troubling.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. Lies are the Mother's Milk of the republican party
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:31 AM
Feb 2019

Satan very pleased with them. Decent folk very disgusted.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
31. yes Satan is having a good time
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 03:41 PM
Feb 2019

Jesus's children are flocking to the dark side in droves. Satan has destroyed all of us, if you believe in him. He has won the day.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
7. He also repeats the main lie he's trying to con them with over and over
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 07:34 AM
Feb 2019

Like "no collusion" when we already know that they did. He is psychologically trying to reinforce the lie he's promoting to these people , and until they start believing its the truth, then he exaggerates it even more to what he wants.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
8. I have watched him and his mannerism.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 08:39 AM
Feb 2019

He has so many both verbal and non verbal. The one that I find the most disturbing is when his voice takes on a growl like quality of anger. When at rallies his syncopats respond with applause, this also is used to successfully cower corporate media. The only thing I despise more than Trump are his mindless followers.

 

Poppy9159

(11 posts)
10. He has another "tell"
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:24 AM
Feb 2019

Another thing he does after telling one of his whoppers is to say something like, "And a lot of other people/leaders feel the same way." Obviously, those others are never defined.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
11. I never believe anyone who uses the phrase "believe me"
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:30 AM
Feb 2019

Honest people never have a need to develop that as a language habit

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
16. Yup, honest people who don't lie don't need to qualify that they are telling the truth
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:02 AM
Feb 2019

Honest people tell the truth all the time and just expect to be believed

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
18. I've been around a few very prolific liars
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:33 AM
Feb 2019

in my life and heard a lot of "Believe me","I swear to God", or "You ask so-and-so", but I've never seen anything quite like Donald Trump. With him, it appears to be a serious disorder and as the walls are closing in on him, it seems to be getting worse.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
19. You know what they say- Power and stress can both be great amplifiers
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:19 AM
Feb 2019

They amplify a person's good and bad traits

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
21. Oh yes
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:10 PM
Feb 2019

This is especially true with Trump. He is so out of his league in DC and the pressure is definitely amplifying his worst traits. At Trump Tower, he had so much control over his world.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
14. He's going after "People of Faith"
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:51 AM
Feb 2019

He's speaking "in code" to those whose belief system is of an organizing, superior power. An impersonal God, A personal Savior.

All (like Atheism, too) are organizations who bind their flock together as "believers" in a specific article of faith, a belief sometimes not proven by material, scientific analysis.

They refer to themselves and their common bond with others as "believers".

Trump isn't exceedingly smart, he's just a greedy salesman and people have low sales resistance.

He's talking the language of his targets.

flying_wahini

(6,594 posts)
15. Also he has a habit of dropping his voice and almost whispering he has a soft sing song cadence.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:55 AM
Feb 2019

He does it when he is testing out a new whopper of a lie.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
17. He fancies himself a salesman.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:08 AM
Feb 2019

He's a con man, but the two aren't that far apart.

A decent salesman attempts to make an equitable trade. You're happy with the price you are paying for the good or service I am providing and I am happy with the amount you are paying for the value of what I am offering.

Trump only thinks in one way; If you are winning or getting what you want, even in a small way, then 'I' must be losing something.

He's a salesman and he has been VERY successful in selling his con to a significant portion of the American electorate.

This can not be denied.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
28. I think that Trump is a con man, not a sales man.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:57 PM
Feb 2019

He tells himself its sales, but he is actually a terrible sales man. He usually fails. He's a con man who is used to buying or bullying his way out of trouble when his cons collapse.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. Trump has more tells than a Swiss archer's family
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:13 PM
Feb 2019

I'd love to play poker against him. He'd have to bring real money, though.

 

BN1914

(39 posts)
23. Another of his many big tells is when he pauses for dramatic effect, then says something batshit.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:14 PM
Feb 2019

And his brainwashed MAGA Hat audience just eats it up.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
24. "Believe me" is an obvious tell for anyone
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:18 PM
Feb 2019

If someone feels the need to tell the listener explicitly to believe what they are saying then almost all of the time they are lying. I've got a great hand, you'd better fold... believe me. Whats worse is most adults can recognize this kind of juvenile tell subconsciously a mile away, unless they are fools or they REALLY want to believe the bullshit for some other reason.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
27. "Many people are saying..." means nobody is saying that thing he's claiming
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:52 PM
Feb 2019

except for the voices in his head.

at140

(6,110 posts)
30. I attended one of his rallies in my blue state of WA
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 03:05 PM
Feb 2019

It was in city of Everett, only 20 minutes drive from my house, just before the November election, so wife and I decided to check it out. It was free tickets to attend.

We left early, because we could not take it any more and to beat the traffic. Cops had closed off all road surrounding the Xfinity Arena for 4 blocks in all directions. So we had a several blocks long walk back to the car. I could not help but recall Hitler's rallies when the audience was in a state of hypnosis. No matter what lie Trump uttered, the audience cheered wildly. Scary experience. I do not recommend attending.

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