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Judge Amy Berman Jackson is not happy with Stone this morning. (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Feb 2019 OP
LOCK HIM UP!!! True Dough Feb 2019 #1
Sure reads like she is going to do just that DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #11
BLOW him up! brandnewday2009 Feb 2019 #38
CAP LOCK HIM UP Botany Feb 2019 #42
IIRC, "time in a barrel" was Stone's phrase he used before the news was made public about... drbtg1 Feb 2019 #92
"Time in THE barrel"... SergeStorms Feb 2019 #105
Good chance. triron Feb 2019 #70
Lock him up! Jim__ Feb 2019 #2
What is he doing, trying to set up a mistrial or claim the judge is now prejudiced? TheBlackAdder Feb 2019 #71
That or maybe he is trying to get thrown in jail now as it might be safer for him if he has cstanleytech Feb 2019 #76
Maybe he's trying to push up his pardon? LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #86
He's trying to get Judge Jackson Berman to do something that will force her to recuse herself. Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #100
Throw his ass in jail. dalton99a Feb 2019 #3
Yep. sheshe2 Feb 2019 #4
The republican traitor deliberately Mooned the judge in public Achilleaze Feb 2019 #5
Stone is a complete idiot. fleur-de-lisa Feb 2019 #6
he's an arrogant POS NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #8
THIS! FirstLight Feb 2019 #83
lock him up NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #7
You know, now I'm glad we kept Gitmo open. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #64
The Judge needs to revoke his bail.... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #9
Take away his toupee jmbar2 Feb 2019 #59
Easy to hide shit in from the outside..... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #60
YES plus NO Lawyer (HIS lawyers) contacting anybody concidered a witness!!! bluestarone Feb 2019 #91
Here comes the judge! manor321 Feb 2019 #10
That was predictable. Stone is an abject idiot. MineralMan Feb 2019 #12
I would love to have heard the conversation between.. Lochloosa Feb 2019 #16
I doubt it was a pleasant conversation. MineralMan Feb 2019 #20
+10000 Pachamama Feb 2019 #56
I guess his apology is NOT accepted! madaboutharry Feb 2019 #13
Maybe he should have sent with his apology a box of cheap chocolates, just NCjack Feb 2019 #98
I'm told that the written "apology" is unprecedented. Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #101
He can share a cell with Manafort. marylandblue Feb 2019 #14
I'd rather see them separated and isolated. Misery loves company. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2019 #80
Bye Felicia. Enjoy lockup. NightWatcher Feb 2019 #15
Start sweating Roger. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #17
RAT FUCKER,... just fucked his self... magicarpet Feb 2019 #18
Toxic Masculinity?? johnnyfins Feb 2019 #35
Had to look up "fughesi"... EarnestPutz Feb 2019 #65
Suggest also meadowlander Feb 2019 #95
Throw his sorry ass in jail. spanone Feb 2019 #19
A SHARP punch to the gut of Roger J. Stone, Jr.!!! Good job judge! George II Feb 2019 #21
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Feb 2019 #22
Speaking of watching... NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #87
Lock him up! Renew Deal Feb 2019 #23
Go judge. Squash him like the belly crawler he is. ooky Feb 2019 #24
I think Stone seriously screwed up. honest.abe Feb 2019 #25
The dirty old motherfucking scofflaw. Paladin Feb 2019 #26
It's so obviously dumb that you have to wonder what his endgame is Buckeyeblue Feb 2019 #27
He wants her off his case leftynyc Feb 2019 #44
Exactly! He wants her off the case right now. And she likely... machoneman Feb 2019 #53
She won't recuse. She's tougher than Stone. lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #66
I pray this is the case here uponit7771 Feb 2019 #89
Apology not accepted Gothmog Feb 2019 #28
Roger Stone is a pure example of stupidity and hubris combined. Polly Hennessey Feb 2019 #29
Agreed mjvpi Feb 2019 #84
WELL... Mike Nelson Feb 2019 #30
damn I thought he'd get picked up this morning...but yes, okay, I can wait 52 more hours if needed Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #31
I doubt she'll revoke his bail, but I think she will order a complete gag order LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #32
Yup zipplewrath Feb 2019 #68
He's going to argue that she can't be impartial, rsdsharp Feb 2019 #33
To which she should reply: johnnyfins Feb 2019 #37
I agree, but I think the whole thing was an attempt to get her to recuse. rsdsharp Feb 2019 #54
Throw his can in the can meow2u3 Feb 2019 #34
This is probably where he'll be sent: Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #40
The Nixon tattoo will be a real hit there... in the showers Fritz Walter Feb 2019 #78
Get this sick bastard off the streets Jarqui Feb 2019 #36
Meh jberryhill Feb 2019 #39
Probably not off the word of the gag order alone (although I expect a much more expansive gag order) Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #43
Link to pretrial release order onenote Feb 2019 #57
The release order specifically mentions +prison time for attempting to intimidate officers of court wishstar Feb 2019 #93
She went on to say that his behavior would be considered for any petions for future relief. 47of74 Feb 2019 #47
Stone is in self destruct mode. democratisphere Feb 2019 #41
Couldn't happen to a "nicer" person. calimary Feb 2019 #82
And throw away the key. ffr Feb 2019 #45
haha.... subana Feb 2019 #46
Except Trump! BlueJac Feb 2019 #51
This is the stupid class flexing their stupidity muscle. Joe Nation Feb 2019 #48
Just like trump does duforsure Feb 2019 #49
Stone's arguments to include "it wasn't me" "I said I was sorry" & "oops, didn't see the crosshairs" RockRaven Feb 2019 #50
And also, "Sorry, not sorry." Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #62
"A volunteer did this." Fritz Walter Feb 2019 #75
Lock that rat fucker up. onecaliberal Feb 2019 #52
No wonder Stone and tRump are best buds.... Bayard Feb 2019 #55
so he has 2 days to get his affairs in order. barbtries Feb 2019 #58
His Best Bet Is to Plead Assholisim. No One Could Argue With That! DoctorJoJo Feb 2019 #61
Hey Zippy, it's your time in the barrel! lagomorph777 Feb 2019 #63
If this clown isn't in cuffs by the end of the week... Basement Beat Feb 2019 #67
ORDERED manhattan123 Feb 2019 #69
He and Manafort are both expecting pardons. Thunderbeast Feb 2019 #72
They may be expecting them but won't get them jmowreader Feb 2019 #77
+1, human behavior patterns or science would indicate that Stone and Manafort are enabled to uponit7771 Feb 2019 #90
She should not recuse. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #73
I guess there are limits to Mabel Feb 2019 #74
According to my calculations, Roger Stone now has exactly TWO NIGHTS left Mr. Ected Feb 2019 #79
You can bet that he's being watched very carefully. n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2019 #81
Chickens coming home to roost... TommyCelt Feb 2019 #85
Ask real nice, Rog and maybe Judge ABJ will let you wear a designer jumpsuit. Hassler Feb 2019 #88
Roger is prison bound. sarcasmo Feb 2019 #94
but he said he was sorryisn't that enuf??? orleans Feb 2019 #96
Stone suffers from Cementbrain. lunatica Feb 2019 #97
So Stone thinks he can put out a dog whistle workinclasszero Feb 2019 #99
The Court should reem his ass. No one should be allowed to get away with what he did. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #102
If I represented Stone (God forbid), TomSlick Feb 2019 #103
Love it and hope she revokes his conditions of release at Thursday hearing. iluvtennis Feb 2019 #104
Stone is quite the prick. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #106

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
11. Sure reads like she is going to do just that
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:37 AM
Feb 2019

unless Stone and his lawyers have some very, very, very, very good and compelling answers to her questions.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
42. CAP LOCK HIM UP
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:09 PM
Feb 2019

Oh my Stone's time in the barrel is coming up today. How quickly will
he roll on everybody to try to save his ass?

drbtg1

(1,054 posts)
92. IIRC, "time in a barrel" was Stone's phrase he used before the news was made public about...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:39 PM
Feb 2019

...Al Franken's joke.

Yeah, it seems appropriate to use it now.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
105. "Time in THE barrel"...
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:28 AM
Feb 2019

as in the barrel of a gun awaiting someone to pull the trigger. Stone and his henchmen were the assholes who pulled the trigger on Franken, and many, many more good people. Stone should rot in jail just like Manafort.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
76. That or maybe he is trying to get thrown in jail now as it might be safer for him if he has
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:22 PM
Feb 2019

anything on Putin or Putins major assets in the US like Trump.
After all Putin has a history of willing to assassinate people in other countries.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
86. Maybe he's trying to push up his pardon?
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:55 PM
Feb 2019

Force the Don's hand. Because can't the President pardon for even a future verdict?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
100. He's trying to get Judge Jackson Berman to do something that will force her to recuse herself.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

If he thinks he can get her removed for a more favorable judge, he'll try anything. He KNOWS he's mega-fucked. This is just the latest salvo in an attempt to get his case tossed.

I don't think I've ever seen a man so obsessed with stepping on his own dick (with golf shoes).

We've got lawyers here on DU -- tell me legal ones - how do you defend someone like this ?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. The republican traitor deliberately Mooned the judge in public
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:34 AM
Feb 2019

and now the republicans will all whine whine whine that the traitor is being treated "unfairly" because he will actually be held to account.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. he's an arrogant POS
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:36 AM
Feb 2019

who's gotten away with all sorts of garbage since the 1970s... he's not going to change.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
9. The Judge needs to revoke his bail....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:36 AM
Feb 2019

Make him spend that time in jail until his trial. No comforts, limited visitation, wear the dreaded orange jumpsuit.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
12. That was predictable. Stone is an abject idiot.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:38 AM
Feb 2019

Who would even think of doing something like that to the judge presiding over your criminal case? Rank stupidity!

I think the judge should simply revoke his release order and have him re-arrested and jailed until his trial. And that may be exactly what this judge does, with full justification.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
20. I doubt it was a pleasant conversation.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:45 AM
Feb 2019

Posting that photo was a real dick move. Even though he took it right down, people are watching his social media accounts like hawks right now, so it got massive distribution almost instantly.

The judge in his case, depicted in a photograph with crosshairs in the background? That's a clear threat and an attempt to interfere with the court. The judge will be fully justified in revoking his release order immediately. I think she should.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
56. +10000
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:29 PM
Feb 2019

I completely agree

I would add that it is arrogance and hubris and that if he isn’t thrown in jail and gag order made stronger, he will never stop and others in that Cabal won’t either.

Roger is a big talker but wait till he is in an orange jumpsuit and having to be incarcerated till his trial.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
13. I guess his apology is NOT accepted!
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:40 AM
Feb 2019

He needs to go to jail. This bullshit of these traitors acting with impunity has got to end.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
98. Maybe he should have sent with his apology a box of cheap chocolates, just
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:32 PM
Feb 2019

to drive his message home.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
101. I'm told that the written "apology" is unprecedented.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:06 PM
Feb 2019

But then again, so is posting a photo of the presiding judge with cross-hair target near her head (from an anti-semitic website).

If he thinks he's going to get a more sympathetic jurist, he just fucked himself. An attack on one of them is an attack on them all. They've already circled the wagons around her.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
80. I'd rather see them separated and isolated. Misery loves company.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:30 PM
Feb 2019

Nothing should mitigate their separate misery. Let them rot and think about flipping. And if they flip, then let them rot a little more.

magicarpet

(14,150 posts)
18. RAT FUCKER,... just fucked his self...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:44 AM
Feb 2019

The Toxic Masculinity of macho man Alex Jones rubbed off on Roger Stone.

Sleep with mangy dogs,.. wake up with ticks and fleas.

This Democ-RAT fucker has pulled these stunts too long,.. about time he was locked up so he does not game and contaminate another national election again.

Fascist Nazi ploys to install a Nazi Junta Banana Republic.

How did this Fascist White Trash commandeer our government ?

johnnyfins

(823 posts)
35. Toxic Masculinity??
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:59 AM
Feb 2019

How about absolutely fake, phony, fughesi masculinity. It's an Alex Jonestown staple.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
24. Go judge. Squash him like the belly crawler he is.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:47 AM
Feb 2019

He's going to be there a long time anyway, he might as well start getting used to prison life now. Lock his disrespectful, arrogant mouth up. You'll be doing all society a favor by us not having to hear his whining anymore.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
27. It's so obviously dumb that you have to wonder what his endgame is
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:49 AM
Feb 2019

Is he trying to prejudice the judge so he can get a future mistrial? Or does he need locked up for his own safety?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
44. He wants her off his case
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:11 PM
Feb 2019

The reason his case was linked to those russians Mueller indicted is annoying him so he wants the cases separated with a different judge.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
53. Exactly! He wants her off the case right now. And she likely...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Feb 2019

will recuse and give the case to another judge. Yet, Stone is still an idiot as even a Bush 1, II, Clinton or other president's federal judge appointment will likely preside over a jury that WILL find him guilty nonetheless.

Polly Hennessey

(6,796 posts)
29. Roger Stone is a pure example of stupidity and hubris combined.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:50 AM
Feb 2019

What makes me sick is knowing that he, and his ilk, influenced and help shape policy towards running this country.

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
84. Agreed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:43 PM
Feb 2019

The real cancer, courtesy of John Roberts and Citizens United have only a small chance of being critically examined during this process. Stone is a cheerleader. We need to nail both coaches, the league commissioners and all of the advertisers. Please forgive the sports analogy. It’s only a small part of who I am.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
31. damn I thought he'd get picked up this morning...but yes, okay, I can wait 52 more hours if needed
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:53 AM
Feb 2019

Adios ya punk ratfucker

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
68. Yup
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:48 PM
Feb 2019

Reading that order, it seems she wants to discuss why he shouldn't be gagged in any form from discussing the case.

rsdsharp

(9,177 posts)
54. I agree, but I think the whole thing was an attempt to get her to recuse.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Feb 2019

"I'm sorry I threatened your life, but now that I did it, you're clearly biased against me."

Stone is too cute by half.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
40. This is probably where he'll be sent:
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:08 PM
Feb 2019

DC Federal Detention Facility:



Unless they make the argument to send him to some jail out in rural Virginia like they did with Manafort.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
39. Meh
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:06 PM
Feb 2019

This is the order in question, incidentally:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.203583/gov.uscourts.dcd.203583.36.0_6.pdf

It is hereby ORDERED that

Counsel for the parties and the witnesses must refrain from making statements to the media or in public settings that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case; and

it is FURTHER ORDERED that

all interested participants in the matter, including the parties, any potential witnesses, and counsel for the parties and the witnesses, must refrain, when they are entering or exiting the courthouse, or they are within the immediate vicinity of the courthouse, from making statements to the media or to the public that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case or are intended to influence any juror, potential juror, judge, witness or court officer or interfere with the administration of justice. There will be no additional restrictions imposed on the defendant’s public statements or appearances at this time, although this order may be amended in the future consistent with Local Criminal Rule 57.7(c) if necessary.



Stone was prohibited from making certain types of statements at or in the vicinity of the courthouse. His Instagram post is clearly not in violation of the previous order.

So, the judge may consider amending the order, but there is no ground for him to be held in contempt or any of the other various retributive notions in this thread.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
43. Probably not off the word of the gag order alone (although I expect a much more expansive gag order)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:11 PM
Feb 2019

But posting what appears to be a threat to the presiding judge on his case might violate terms of his pretrial release.

Does anyone have the exact language of his pretrial release?

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
93. The release order specifically mentions +prison time for attempting to intimidate officers of court
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:13 PM
Feb 2019

In the paragraph above his signature there are several violations considered severe enough to warrant additional prison time including attempts to intimidate witnesses, jurors and officers of the court. The way he posted her picture with the verbal accusations could certainly be considered attempting to intimidate an officer of the court.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
47. She went on to say that his behavior would be considered for any petions for future relief.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:17 PM
Feb 2019

I don't think this is gonna get him the result he was hoping for.

Finally, while it is not up to the Court to advise the defendant as to whether a succession of public statements would be in his best interest at this time, it notes that one factor that will be considered in the evaluation of any future request for relief based on pretrial publicity will be the extent to which the publicity was engendered by the defendant himself.


I would have put it more bluntly. As in telling him to shut the fuck up.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
82. Couldn't happen to a "nicer" person.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:31 PM
Feb 2019

Roger the Ratfucker has had it coming for a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNG time coming.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
49. Just like trump does
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:23 PM
Feb 2019

Judicial intimidation , and suggesting incitement of others against her IS a direct threat, and another trump tactic he often uses to make suggestions others could hurt them , and now Stone's using images to incite and threaten with. He should be put behind bars for doing this or it'll be used again , and others will use it, and this will only escalate if he's allowed to stay free after this.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
50. Stone's arguments to include "it wasn't me" "I said I was sorry" & "oops, didn't see the crosshairs"
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:24 PM
Feb 2019

very compelling arguments, these are...

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
75. "A volunteer did this."
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:21 PM
Feb 2019

I saw he floated that excuse yesterday.

And the dog ate my homework. And the cat pissed on the library book.

Way to build loyalty: scapegoating. Besides, who'd want to volunteer for that dirt bag to begin with?

Bayard

(22,073 posts)
55. No wonder Stone and tRump are best buds....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:28 PM
Feb 2019

They're both morons that think the rules don't apply to them.

manhattan123

(302 posts)
69. ORDERED
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:54 PM
Feb 2019

I know it's just the form these notices take, but I like how ORDERED is in all caps.

Perhaps Stone can smuggle the shovel he's been using to dig this hole for himself into prison when his bail is revoked.

Thunderbeast

(3,410 posts)
72. He and Manafort are both expecting pardons.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:12 PM
Feb 2019

The new AG is probably working on the language now. Pardons would likely inoculate his prized spawn from indictments, as this would signal his intent on further prosecutions.

Trump believes he can "thread the needle" to avoid conviction in the senate after impeachment.

His boss in Moscow has promised that Gucifer 3.0 will get him re-elected.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
77. They may be expecting them but won't get them
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:23 PM
Feb 2019

Trump is in self-preservation mode. The only people more able to send Trump away for life than Stone and Manafort are Kushner and his kids. Trump knows this, and also knows they’d be required to roll over on him if he pardoned them...so, no pardon for you!

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
90. +1, human behavior patterns or science would indicate that Stone and Manafort are enabled to
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:25 PM
Feb 2019

... act the way they do because of risk reward ratio ... or ... they're being threatened from a greater source.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
73. She should not recuse.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:13 PM
Feb 2019

It would sat a bad example. Anyone who wanted a new judge would pull the same thing.

Mabel

(79 posts)
74. I guess there are limits to
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:15 PM
Feb 2019

rich white guy entitlement and it appears Mr. Stone has reached that limit....

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
79. According to my calculations, Roger Stone now has exactly TWO NIGHTS left
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

To sleep in his own bed.

After that, at his Thursday hearing, he'll be thrown in the clink for threatening a federal judge.

And after that, well, the whole treason thing, sit in prison for a couple of years, then hang 'em high.

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
85. Chickens coming home to roost...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:54 PM
Feb 2019

He says he relishes the hatred people have for him and that he enjoys instigating that hate (paraphrased from that idiot documentary)...

The wheel is round, Rog.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
96. but he said he was sorryisn't that enuf???
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:56 PM
Feb 2019

Stone apologizes to judge for Instagram post

"CNN's Sara Murray reports that longtime President Donald Trump associate Roger Stone has apologized to the court after he shared a controversial Instagram post of the federal judge who is presiding over his case.Source: CNN"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/02/18/roger-stone-instagram-post-judge-misinterpreted-jarrett-tsr-vpx.cnn




 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
99. So Stone thinks he can put out a dog whistle
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 05:48 PM
Feb 2019

to his allies in the alt right to hit/murder/assault the judge on his case and then say “sorry” with no consequences?

LOCK THAT GOP POS UP NOW!!!!

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
106. Stone is quite the prick.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:56 AM
Feb 2019

To me, that’s an open threat against a sitting judge. The mother ————- should have his sorry ass thrown in jail. If I were Berman, I’d be more than concerned.

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