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(17,305 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)unless Stone and his lawyers have some very, very, very, very good and compelling answers to her questions.
brandnewday2009
(287 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)Oh my Stone's time in the barrel is coming up today. How quickly will
he roll on everybody to try to save his ass?
drbtg1
(1,054 posts)...Al Franken's joke.
Yeah, it seems appropriate to use it now.
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)as in the barrel of a gun awaiting someone to pull the trigger. Stone and his henchmen were the assholes who pulled the trigger on Franken, and many, many more good people. Stone should rot in jail just like Manafort.
triron
(22,003 posts)Jim__
(14,076 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,195 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)anything on Putin or Putins major assets in the US like Trump.
After all Putin has a history of willing to assassinate people in other countries.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)Force the Don's hand. Because can't the President pardon for even a future verdict?
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)If he thinks he can get her removed for a more favorable judge, he'll try anything. He KNOWS he's mega-fucked. This is just the latest salvo in an attempt to get his case tossed.
I don't think I've ever seen a man so obsessed with stepping on his own dick (with golf shoes).
We've got lawyers here on DU -- tell me legal ones - how do you defend someone like this ?
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)sheshe2
(83,763 posts)Lock Him Up!
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)and now the republicans will all whine whine whine that the traitor is being treated "unfairly" because he will actually be held to account.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)who's gotten away with all sorts of garbage since the 1970s... he's not going to change.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)People like him really don't think the rules EVER apply to them.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and throw away the key
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)For just such an emergency.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)Make him spend that time in jail until his trial. No comforts, limited visitation, wear the dreaded orange jumpsuit.
jmbar2
(4,886 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)Good idea.
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)NO phone NO internet!!!!
manor321
(3,344 posts)MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Who would even think of doing something like that to the judge presiding over your criminal case? Rank stupidity!
I think the judge should simply revoke his release order and have him re-arrested and jailed until his trial. And that may be exactly what this judge does, with full justification.
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Stone and his lawyers.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Posting that photo was a real dick move. Even though he took it right down, people are watching his social media accounts like hawks right now, so it got massive distribution almost instantly.
The judge in his case, depicted in a photograph with crosshairs in the background? That's a clear threat and an attempt to interfere with the court. The judge will be fully justified in revoking his release order immediately. I think she should.
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)I completely agree
I would add that it is arrogance and hubris and that if he isnt thrown in jail and gag order made stronger, he will never stop and others in that Cabal wont either.
Roger is a big talker but wait till he is in an orange jumpsuit and having to be incarcerated till his trial.
madaboutharry
(40,211 posts)He needs to go to jail. This bullshit of these traitors acting with impunity has got to end.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)to drive his message home.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)But then again, so is posting a photo of the presiding judge with cross-hair target near her head (from an anti-semitic website).
If he thinks he's going to get a more sympathetic jurist, he just fucked himself. An attack on one of them is an attack on them all. They've already circled the wagons around her.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Nothing should mitigate their separate misery. Let them rot and think about flipping. And if they flip, then let them rot a little more.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)magicarpet
(14,150 posts)The Toxic Masculinity of macho man Alex Jones rubbed off on Roger Stone.
Sleep with mangy dogs,.. wake up with ticks and fleas.
This Democ-RAT fucker has pulled these stunts too long,.. about time he was locked up so he does not game and contaminate another national election again.
Fascist Nazi ploys to install a Nazi Junta Banana Republic.
How did this Fascist White Trash commandeer our government ?
johnnyfins
(823 posts)How about absolutely fake, phony, fughesi masculinity. It's an Alex Jonestown staple.
EarnestPutz
(2,120 posts)...and found out it means fake or imitation. Neopolitan slang.
meadowlander
(4,395 posts)watching Donnie Brasco while you're at it. Great movie
spanone
(135,832 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Gothmog
(145,231 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)will it be public?
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)He's going to be there a long time anyway, he might as well start getting used to prison life now. Lock his disrespectful, arrogant mouth up. You'll be doing all society a favor by us not having to hear his whining anymore.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)He's toast.
Paladin
(28,257 posts)Put him in jail, throw away the key, forget about him.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Is he trying to prejudice the judge so he can get a future mistrial? Or does he need locked up for his own safety?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)The reason his case was linked to those russians Mueller indicted is annoying him so he wants the cases separated with a different judge.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)will recuse and give the case to another judge. Yet, Stone is still an idiot as even a Bush 1, II, Clinton or other president's federal judge appointment will likely preside over a jury that WILL find him guilty nonetheless.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Gothmog
(145,231 posts)Polly Hennessey
(6,796 posts)What makes me sick is knowing that he, and his ilk, influenced and help shape policy towards running this country.
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)The real cancer, courtesy of John Roberts and Citizens United have only a small chance of being critically examined during this process. Stone is a cheerleader. We need to nail both coaches, the league commissioners and all of the advertisers. Please forgive the sports analogy. Its only a small part of who I am.
Mike Nelson
(9,955 posts)
we need more judges like Judge Amy Berman Jackson!
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Adios ya punk ratfucker
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Reading that order, it seems she wants to discuss why he shouldn't be gagged in any form from discussing the case.
rsdsharp
(9,177 posts)and must recuse.
johnnyfins
(823 posts)BAIL REVOKED!
rsdsharp
(9,177 posts)"I'm sorry I threatened your life, but now that I did it, you're clearly biased against me."
Stone is too cute by half.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)And not Club Fed!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)DC Federal Detention Facility:
Unless they make the argument to send him to some jail out in rural Virginia like they did with Manafort.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Don't drop the soap!
Jarqui
(10,125 posts)He's been at it for 45 years.
I think we've had enough.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This is the order in question, incidentally:
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.203583/gov.uscourts.dcd.203583.36.0_6.pdf
It is hereby ORDERED that
Counsel for the parties and the witnesses must refrain from making statements to the media or in public settings that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case; and
it is FURTHER ORDERED that
all interested participants in the matter, including the parties, any potential witnesses, and counsel for the parties and the witnesses, must refrain, when they are entering or exiting the courthouse, or they are within the immediate vicinity of the courthouse, from making statements to the media or to the public that pose a substantial likelihood of material prejudice to this case or are intended to influence any juror, potential juror, judge, witness or court officer or interfere with the administration of justice. There will be no additional restrictions imposed on the defendants public statements or appearances at this time, although this order may be amended in the future consistent with Local Criminal Rule 57.7(c) if necessary.
Stone was prohibited from making certain types of statements at or in the vicinity of the courthouse. His Instagram post is clearly not in violation of the previous order.
So, the judge may consider amending the order, but there is no ground for him to be held in contempt or any of the other various retributive notions in this thread.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)But posting what appears to be a threat to the presiding judge on his case might violate terms of his pretrial release.
Does anyone have the exact language of his pretrial release?
onenote
(42,703 posts)wishstar
(5,269 posts)In the paragraph above his signature there are several violations considered severe enough to warrant additional prison time including attempts to intimidate witnesses, jurors and officers of the court. The way he posted her picture with the verbal accusations could certainly be considered attempting to intimidate an officer of the court.
47of74
(18,470 posts)I don't think this is gonna get him the result he was hoping for.
I would have put it more bluntly. As in telling him to shut the fuck up.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)calimary
(81,265 posts)Roger the Ratfucker has had it coming for a LOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNG time coming.
ffr
(22,670 posts)BAM!
subana
(586 posts)no one deserves it more!!
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Joe Nation
(963 posts)Could they be any dumber? Hard to imagine.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Judicial intimidation , and suggesting incitement of others against her IS a direct threat, and another trump tactic he often uses to make suggestions others could hurt them , and now Stone's using images to incite and threaten with. He should be put behind bars for doing this or it'll be used again , and others will use it, and this will only escalate if he's allowed to stay free after this.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)very compelling arguments, these are...
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)I saw he floated that excuse yesterday.
And the dog ate my homework. And the cat pissed on the library book.
Way to build loyalty: scapegoating. Besides, who'd want to volunteer for that dirt bag to begin with?
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Bayard
(22,073 posts)They're both morons that think the rules don't apply to them.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)i'm glad to see it.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Basement Beat
(659 posts)manhattan123
(302 posts)I know it's just the form these notices take, but I like how ORDERED is in all caps.
Perhaps Stone can smuggle the shovel he's been using to dig this hole for himself into prison when his bail is revoked.
Thunderbeast
(3,410 posts)The new AG is probably working on the language now. Pardons would likely inoculate his prized spawn from indictments, as this would signal his intent on further prosecutions.
Trump believes he can "thread the needle" to avoid conviction in the senate after impeachment.
His boss in Moscow has promised that Gucifer 3.0 will get him re-elected.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Trump is in self-preservation mode. The only people more able to send Trump away for life than Stone and Manafort are Kushner and his kids. Trump knows this, and also knows theyd be required to roll over on him if he pardoned them...so, no pardon for you!
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... act the way they do because of risk reward ratio ... or ... they're being threatened from a greater source.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)It would sat a bad example. Anyone who wanted a new judge would pull the same thing.
Mabel
(79 posts)rich white guy entitlement and it appears Mr. Stone has reached that limit....
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)To sleep in his own bed.
After that, at his Thursday hearing, he'll be thrown in the clink for threatening a federal judge.
And after that, well, the whole treason thing, sit in prison for a couple of years, then hang 'em high.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)TommyCelt
(838 posts)He says he relishes the hatred people have for him and that he enjoys instigating that hate (paraphrased from that idiot documentary)...
The wheel is round, Rog.
Hassler
(3,377 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)orleans
(34,051 posts)Stone apologizes to judge for Instagram post
"CNN's Sara Murray reports that longtime President Donald Trump associate Roger Stone has apologized to the court after he shared a controversial Instagram post of the federal judge who is presiding over his case.Source: CNN"
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/02/18/roger-stone-instagram-post-judge-misinterpreted-jarrett-tsr-vpx.cnn
lunatica
(53,410 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)to his allies in the alt right to hit/murder/assault the judge on his case and then say sorry with no consequences?
LOCK THAT GOP POS UP NOW!!!!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)TomSlick
(11,098 posts)my advice would be to take a toothbrush to Court.
iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)To me, thats an open threat against a sitting judge. The mother - should have his sorry ass thrown in jail. If I were Berman, Id be more than concerned.